See reasoning in non-conference RPI thread that's just been updated.
And getting Bethune-Cookman looks to actually be a positive.
And getting Bethune-Cookman looks to actually be a positive.
MSU to play Bethune-Cookman in South Padre Invitational...
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See reasoning in non-conference RPI thread that's just been updated.
And getting Bethune-Cookman looks to actually be a positive.
And getting Bethune-Cookman looks to actually be a positive.
...Bethune-Cookman was a good pickup considering. That being said, I'd have much preferred #174 Chattanooga.
The basketball experts on this board have spoken. They said that more wins are what gets you into the NCAA tournament and higher seed.
Georgetown had the number 4 SOS in the country last year. What was their seed? That's right, they sat at home because they went 16-15. Wisconsin had the number 8 SOS last year, they were a 12 seed, Utah had the 66th SOS and was a 4 seed? Why? Because Wisconsin was 19-12 and Utah was 24-9. Arizona and their 10th rated schedule got a 12 seed, which is one slot better than a certain SEC team with an SOS of 64.
Bottom line, if you win, nobody gives a **** who you played, as long as you keep winning.
Bottom line, if you win, nobody gives a **** who you played, as long as you keep winning.
I dont know if you were kidding or not but good research by Scoob.
http://sixpackspeak.yuku.com/sreply/198692
http://sixpackspeak.yuku.com/sreply/198692
you guys think he was really being serious about that? Damnnnnnnnn
Some of you need to lighten up when we make comments about Little Wooden. All we want is for us to play a couple of really good teams every year. Thats not asking too much. We are just like you guys- we want State to be a nationally relevant program. We want TV games with us playing Dook or Michigan state as the national TV game on a Saturday. Playing Bethune-Cookman doesnt excite anyone except HD6- because he can eat his Bryan weiner and enjoy a blowout from his Starkville seat...
Playing 2 nationally relevant teams out of 14-15 pre-conference games isnt asking too much...playing UCLA is so damn good for our program- win or lose...
Some of you need to lighten up when we make comments about Little Wooden. All we want is for us to play a couple of really good teams every year. Thats not asking too much. We are just like you guys- we want State to be a nationally relevant program. We want TV games with us playing Dook or Michigan state as the national TV game on a Saturday. Playing Bethune-Cookman doesnt excite anyone except HD6- because he can eat his Bryan weiner and enjoy a blowout from his Starkville seat...
Playing 2 nationally relevant teams out of 14-15 pre-conference games isnt asking too much...playing UCLA is so damn good for our program- win or lose...
Desoto., put all of this post in your sig. It's the most accurate thing Coach has ever posted. Including the part about my being serious earlier about the RPI.Coach34 said:
I don't know how many times I have to say that I don't disagree with you and coach's position. I'm sorry that I didnt repeat it 5000 times so that everyone would know.
Our RPI will take care of itself if we just win the games we play. Our RPI was 63 last year because we lost 4 games in non-conference to teams with RPI's below 84, not because we played them. We win those 4 games, we are sitting at 23-8 going into the SEC tournament, which probably would have had us in with a win, maybe in period.
Of course, you don't understand this, so go ahead and reply with whatever feces falls out of your brain and onto the keyboard.
Of course, you don't understand this, so go ahead and reply with whatever feces falls out of your brain and onto the keyboard.
I understand your position. You want to play ****** teams, watch us beat them from your seat in the Hump, and hope the RPI is where it needs to be.
A few of us would rather have us play 2 nationally known programs per year for exposure and SOS improvement.
You arent changing your position, we arent changing ours.
Have a blessed day
A few of us would rather have us play 2 nationally known programs per year for exposure and SOS improvement.
You arent changing your position, we arent changing ours.
Have a blessed day
I am keeping it going. HD6 is saying there is no hope needed. You win those games, your RPI will be fine. See 2004.
Playing every year at Duke and North Carolina isn't going to do anything except add 2 losses to the record 9 out of 10 years. Look at our two best years under Stans, 2002 and 2004. In 2002 we had one loss in non conference, in 2004 we had 0 losses in non conference. In 2002 we ended up with a 3 seed, in 2004 a 2 seed. Every other year we've had a few non conference losses we shouldn't have had. Now take that record and add 2 losses to it. Boy, that will be great heading into the conference schedule every year.
It always swings to this extreme. No one is saying play at Duke and UNC every year. There are however, many teams we could probably get games with whose RPI is at least in the non-damaging range. Playing Valley, Bethune-Cookman, Centenary, and SE Louisiana is just horrible. All it does is sell hot dogs for the 3,500 people who will go in mid-December to watch it.Stormrider81 said:
If you don't even play the better teams then you have no idea what would happen. I am not saying that we play Duke and UNC every year, but why not play two good OOC games every year and boost our RPI in the process. You never know we might actually win those games...
What am I thinking, we have Stans as the coach and there is no way he can coach us to a win against a non-SEC top teir team. He just can't.... So go to the Hump eat your hotdogs and watch us beat the hell out of a nobody... enjoy...
What am I thinking, we have Stans as the coach and there is no way he can coach us to a win against a non-SEC top teir team. He just can't.... So go to the Hump eat your hotdogs and watch us beat the hell out of a nobody... enjoy...
All I have to do is look at our record against quality SEC teams on the road. It is not good. Aside from 2004 when we went undefeated on the road, we haven't done extremely well on the road. From this I'll make a pretty safe conclusion that if we played two really good/great OOC teams per year on the road, we would end up 0-2 most years. Rarely would we go 2-0.
I reject that premise. I guess ironically I have more faith in Stansbury than that. We have learned to win on the road in the SEC. For the most part, that's the level of team that I would like to see us have on the schedule. Play NC State, not North Carolina. Play Texas A&M, not Texas. Play Notre Dame, not UConn. We would lose some of them, sure. But we wouldn't go 0-2 every year, and the potential benefits in the RPI, SOS and big-game experience could not hurt. It's not like the method we are employing now is leading to any sustained NCAA tournament success, so why not try something different?
For the most part this decade, and particularly in the early part of the decade when the conference was stronger, we struggled a lot more on the road.
Regardless, it still proves my point that at our best we just hold serve on the road. I still say most years you'd go 0-2 with the occasional 1-1 and the once or twice in a decade 2-0.
Regardless, it still proves my point that at our best we just hold serve on the road. I still say most years you'd go 0-2 with the occasional 1-1 and the once or twice in a decade 2-0.