Mullen may be about to get rolled in recruiting...
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Dollabillz
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We may not have finished with a bunch of higher profile guys, but I like playersthat have something special about their size or skill. A 330 pound lineman, or a DE thats 6'8'', or an OG that ran a 4.9 40. Those are guys that can get some better football training in college and because of their size or ability can add something.Most of these guys Croom would get couldn't do anything. I'm hoping guys like Dillon and Lawson can maybe get that training and improve their skill set and benefit the team 3 years down the road.
that is going to pull us some Top 20 recruiting classes with the decade of **** that we have put on the field.
Please tell your imaginary friend Mack Sabanmeyercarrollstoops to get here asap. We aren't landing 10 4-stars a year, something ain't right. It is almost as if we were beaten by Maine recently.
Please tell your imaginary friend Mack Sabanmeyercarrollstoops to get here asap. We aren't landing 10 4-stars a year, something ain't right. It is almost as if we were beaten by Maine recently.
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Dollabillz
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if Croom wasn't an idiot on gameday. So that means maybe he got a few players in '05 and '06.
Three if you count last year (against a ridiculously tougher schedule that we played in '07 and '08).
Just saying. You're all over the place with this argument. You call them croomesque classes, implying that they aren't any good. Then you say rankings and stars don't matter, yet they were the basis of your argument. Sounds like you'rea tad emotional this morning.</p>
Three if you count last year (against a ridiculously tougher schedule that we played in '07 and '08).
Just saying. You're all over the place with this argument. You call them croomesque classes, implying that they aren't any good. Then you say rankings and stars don't matter, yet they were the basis of your argument. Sounds like you'rea tad emotional this morning.</p>
It takes a full year for recruiting to come back around after some success. We went bowling in 2007, and spring 2009 we had a pretty damn good class.
Last year we were recruiting from a 4-8 season and uncertainty about a new coaching staff. Basically, we're getting recruits from a 5-7 season right now. Go to a bowl game this year and that changes everything.
Last year we were recruiting from a 4-8 season and uncertainty about a new coaching staff. Basically, we're getting recruits from a 5-7 season right now. Go to a bowl game this year and that changes everything.
...Croom and Mullen did it coming off of a horrible 2008, the worst Egg Bowl Beating in the modern era, and in the midst of a coaching change. It looks to me like it's less about what happens on the field and more about having a motivated alumni base who wins auctions for guys.
I don't expect top 20 classes every year, but I do think to win consistently, we need to top 25 or 30 classes. Last year sucked. We missed on a bunch of guys we wanted and had to pick up leftovers. We'll see how Mullen responds. He started out well this year, but has appeared to lose momentum.
I don't expect top 20 classes every year, but I do think to win consistently, we need to top 25 or 30 classes. Last year sucked. We missed on a bunch of guys we wanted and had to pick up leftovers. We'll see how Mullen responds. He started out well this year, but has appeared to lose momentum.
frankly if you think the world outside of starkville assumed mullen is the hc in waiting for fla then you're getting a bit wooly. he may be the next coming of knute rockne but, IMO, after one yr at starkville he hasn't done anything to make him the frontrunner for one of the top few jobs in college football. now he may and ya'll may go 10-2 this yr and he may suddenly become the hottest coach out there. but as of 7-19-2010 that's just not the "trouble".
many may believe he is short term but that's an msu problem to overcome not a meyer headache problem. and before the pack goes postal....we have the same issue. till either one of us steps up to be a place a coach can aspire to stay then we both have to be worried.
many may believe he is short term but that's an msu problem to overcome not a meyer headache problem. and before the pack goes postal....we have the same issue. till either one of us steps up to be a place a coach can aspire to stay then we both have to be worried.
RebelShark said:
Hey now Reb! We will have none of that! There is no room for reason when it comes to recruiting smack! Take your obvious point somewhere else pal!
DavidBrentDawg said:
And I asked you what was the excuse if you go back further than 2 years? What confused you about that.
Being on the same page with Dollarbillz/Huntsville/Goat/etc isn't a good thing.
If you don't agree that you have had favorable schedules the last two years than I don't know what else to tell you. I wish we had the same because I think more wins has a positive impact on recruiting. Apparently you don't agree, fair enough.
keep bringing up Paul Crawford? He will probably never set foot on campus at MSU. He was signed as an insurance policy in case one of our top 25 signees didn't make their grades.
The 2009 class that Mullen signed was an excellent class. The one weakness was the O-line. The 2010 class had some big misses, but we were able to sign 5 tall, big, and athletic O-linemen. Those 2 classes combined are a good foundation. We just need to continue bringing in playmakers and we have to find a QB.
The 2009 class that Mullen signed was an excellent class. The one weakness was the O-line. The 2010 class had some big misses, but we were able to sign 5 tall, big, and athletic O-linemen. Those 2 classes combined are a good foundation. We just need to continue bringing in playmakers and we have to find a QB.
DavidBrentDawg said:
In 2008, we played Florida, Vandy, and South Carolina out of the East, and we had Wake Forest on the road in non-conference play. That's as tough or tougher than your schedule that included Georgia Tech on the road OOC, Vandy, Kentucky, and UT out of the East. In fact, I'd say our 2008 schedule was slightly tougher than your 2008 schedule.
Our 2009 schedule was definitely easier than yours, but that doesn't fly for 2008. The schedule helped us out last year, and having a favorable schedule was the difference in us finishing 8-4 versus finishing 7-5.
Yes, Ole Miss' 2009 schedule wasn't too bad. 2008? I think you may be remembering what you want to; it wasn't a meatgrinder, but it wasn't a cake-walk, either. We still played Florida and Alabama (beating Florida), LSU, and both seasons saw us beat a nationally ranked opponent (2008 being #8 Texas Tech) in a bowl game. Your tone suggests we were beating the Sisters of the Poor's second team, and that isn't exactly true. While I'll readily concede State's schedule was worse... I'd be interested to see a side-by-side list of non-common opponents, to help judge scale of how much worse it really was.
And you're ignoring the OM poster's point... asking you to apply a scheduling disparity analysis to something outside a two-year window. You are either trying to be cute and feigning ignorance of what he's asking, or you are a mouth-breather.
Both of you have points - settle it rather than taking up a thread with back-and-forth.
And you're ignoring the OM poster's point... asking you to apply a scheduling disparity analysis to something outside a two-year window. You are either trying to be cute and feigning ignorance of what he's asking, or you are a mouth-breather.
Both of you have points - settle it rather than taking up a thread with back-and-forth.
have to enjoy the irony of the concept of nutt pitching that mullen might consider another job....considering nutt's history of "listening'. but hey, as i say i'm not in the know about the fla job except to the extent some of my fla friends have commented on it. </p>
In 2008, UM had a pretty good to good team that got hot. They had a smart schedule, where they only needed to play above their heads at Alabama or UF to have a phenomenal season. Losing to Vandy (complete self sabotage) and Wake Forrest (who was actually pretty decent at the time) stopped UM from taking advantage of a manageable schedule.olemissbydamn said:
MSU was not as talentless as it looked, but even with good coaching would have been a mediocre team.
In 2009, UM had a mediocre team and had the stars align to get to the cotton bowl. Ridiculously easy schedule andan SEC that was severely flawed after the top 2.
MSU also had a mediocre team (or as I like to think of it, a pretty good team averaged with a ****** qb), but had a ridiculously hard schedule.
Only point being that MSU and UM aren't that far apart as teams right now, with UM's good team in 2008 being significantly better than MSU's pretty decent team in 2007 being the only real differencesince the Croom and Orgeron era's started,but thanks to Boone somehow miraculously managing to not screw up UM's schedule, UM looks like it's in much better shape, which for recruiting, means it is in better shape.