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Don't kid yourselves - the majority of educated Ole Miss fans don't want the Mullen/Hud switch to occur.
The genesis of those comments were when he was red, red hot in '10 and early '11, and Ole Miss fans were absolutely convinced a coach of that caliber would never stay in Starkville. Now, the joke doesn't really work one way or the other.
The irony though, is that now they want him to stay, and not just because of the Egg Bowl. Hud - a congenial, hard working native son - would tear a hole in recruiting across this state.
Don't kid yourselves - the majority of educated Ole Miss fans don't want the Mullen/Hud switch to occur.
The genesis of those comments were when he was red, red hot in '10 and early '11, and Ole Miss fans were absolutely convinced a coach of that caliber would never stay in Starkville. Now, the joke doesn't really work one way or the other.
The irony though, is that now they want him to stay, and not just because of the Egg Bowl. Hud - a congenial, hard working native son - would tear a hole in recruiting across this state.
So, to recap....Ole Miss fans dont want the Mullen Hud switch to occur because:
Losing 3 out of 4 Games isnt that big of a deal. But losing a recruiting battle each year that really doesnt produce much more than a bunch of **** talking between Februarys, is.
Look, stick to the Oxford vs Starkville editorials. But dont kid yourself either. Until you won this egg bowl, your fanbase was nearly unanimous that they preferred Mullen go elsewhere because of their uncertainty of when you'd win again, his arrogance to point it out and keep it up for 3 years, and the fact he's sustained a winning program in Starkville WHILE being named as a candidate for jobs at Florida, Miami and Penn State.
Oh, yea, Hud was at MSU. He didnt tear any holes in recruiting in the state. Well, at least according to that educated majority of OM fans who seemed to let their voice be heard.
Losing 3 out of 4 Games isnt that big of a deal. But losing a recruiting battle each year that really doesnt produce much more than a bunch of **** talking between Februarys, is.
Look, stick to the Oxford vs Starkville editorials. But dont kid yourself either. Until you won this egg bowl, your fanbase was nearly unanimous that they preferred Mullen go elsewhere because of their uncertainty of when you'd win again, his arrogance to point it out and keep it up for 3 years, and the fact he's sustained a winning program in Starkville WHILE being named as a candidate for jobs at Florida, Miami and Penn State.
Oh, yea, Hud was at MSU. He didnt tear any holes in recruiting in the state. Well, at least according to that educated majority of OM fans who seemed to let their voice be heard.
Let's not forget that it was just one egg bowl.........
going for the fourth on the road was going to be very hard to accomplished. Let's take the wait and see approach on how well Freeze does. He like us benefited from a weak AR and Auburn team. At lest Mullen has proven he can't get to a bowl game when those two teams are on top of their game. Freeze has not. If AR and Auburn where as good this year as last year we would have still been going to a bowl game and Ole Miss would have been 4 and 8 sitting at home.
going for the fourth on the road was going to be very hard to accomplished. Let's take the wait and see approach on how well Freeze does. He like us benefited from a weak AR and Auburn team. At lest Mullen has proven he can't get to a bowl game when those two teams are on top of their game. Freeze has not. If AR and Auburn where as good this year as last year we would have still been going to a bowl game and Ole Miss would have been 4 and 8 sitting at home.
Not sure if you meant this literally or as OM smack... Hud was a tremendous recruiter for us, and losing him definitely contributed a bunch to the '11 class falling apart...
It has to sting pretty bad knowing Mullen got his *** kicked by a high school girls basketball coach.
I think he knew it was coming though, that's why he kept his mouth shut the week leading up to the game. Y'all are 8-4 in the SEC and unranked, no one respects your team. There is a reason for that.
I think he knew it was coming though, that's why he kept his mouth shut the week leading up to the game. Y'all are 8-4 in the SEC and unranked, no one respects your team. There is a reason for that.
I'd rather have HUD than Mullen. Seriously.
Mullen doesn't have the balls to recruit the way he needs to. Time to find someone who does. I like what Dan's done for us, but we need another step up and that requires better players than the ones we are putting on the field. Just the truth.
Mullen doesn't have the balls to recruit the way he needs to. Time to find someone who does. I like what Dan's done for us, but we need another step up and that requires better players than the ones we are putting on the field. Just the truth.
You have clearly NOT followed recruiting... at all...
There is an excellent chance that Mullen is about to give us the best class any of us have ever seen at MSU. Certainly the best since scouting services have been around. But by god we are Mississippi State!!1!1 Damn those top 15 classes just are not evaRRR going to get it done here!!1!
How quickly you forget your magical 2009 season, which is identical in it's role reversal to the one we just had...even including rankings...
Eli Manning as a sterter(OM's best 3 year run since the early 70s when his dad roamed the sidelines) - 24-13
State's current 3 year run - 24-14 awaiting bowl game
Of course, that's still not as good as our 98-00 run, but that's beside the point...
Our current class is already very good. Keep those guys and add Shumphert, Corey Smith, and Daniel or Z. Smith, then it's an outstanding class.
Mullen can recruit. He had very good classes 2009 and 2012.
2010 was a terrible class for the state of Mississippi. The highest rated recruits from that year (Robinson, Thompson, Martin, Eulls, etc.) have had very little impact so far. Vince Sanders has had the biggest impact, and he's just been average up to this point.
2011 was a very weird recruiting year. You may never see something like that happen to us again. Just totally bizarre how many recruits we lost after a very good season.
Mullen can recruit. He had very good classes 2009 and 2012.
2010 was a terrible class for the state of Mississippi. The highest rated recruits from that year (Robinson, Thompson, Martin, Eulls, etc.) have had very little impact so far. Vince Sanders has had the biggest impact, and he's just been average up to this point.
2011 was a very weird recruiting year. You may never see something like that happen to us again. Just totally bizarre how many recruits we lost after a very good season.
Your ranking had more to do with when you lost the games and the fact y'all opened as a top 10 team. If your schedule would have been like ours, you wouldn't have been ranked either.
this coming from a guy going to the BBVA compass bowl in Birmingham in the hood. Jacksonville/Birmingham? Hmmmmm.
You won one game out of the last four tries. Go easy on bucky beaver love. It's just one year.
You won one game out of the last four tries. Go easy on bucky beaver love. It's just one year.
Johnson, Brassell, Singleton, Whitehead. We lost those guys due to losing Diaz and Hud. Pretty big hit although 2 of them have had no impact whatsoever, although I think they would have contributed in our program. Whitehead will get better as he's just a sophomore. No telling what will happen with Brassell and obvious that C.J. was a big loss. Interesting too, because 2009 was pretty much a home run for us too. Ole Miss got Patterson, who was nothing. 2012 was damn near it too, probably a triple, since they landed Gross and Ward.
That's true on 2010, hadn't really thought about it until now. They haven't been really given chances to grow up yet, but they are redshirt sophomores and true juniors. A number of these guys start for MSU and UM, but none have proven to be outstanding.
At least we've been keeping guys in-state. Norwood, Steen and Whitehead are about all who've gotten away. Maybe that Woodson guy but he's disappeared.
That's true on 2010, hadn't really thought about it until now. They haven't been really given chances to grow up yet, but they are redshirt sophomores and true juniors. A number of these guys start for MSU and UM, but none have proven to be outstanding.
At least we've been keeping guys in-state. Norwood, Steen and Whitehead are about all who've gotten away. Maybe that Woodson guy but he's disappeared.
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Ole Miss was consensus #25 heading into the Egg Bowl, just like us. We kicked you out of the Top 25, and if you did in fact (I have no clue) re-emerge after the Cotton Bowl, then STFU and let us play our bowl game as well. We may finished ranked after all.
Look, stick to the Oxford vs Starkville editorials. But dont kid yourself either. Until you won this egg bowl, your fanbase was nearly unanimous that they preferred Mullen go elsewhere because of their uncertainty of when you'd win again, his arrogance to point it out and keep it up for 3 years, and the fact he's sustained a winning program in Starkville WHILE being named as a candidate for jobs at Florida, Miami and Penn State.
That's exactly what I was trying to say. I don't know why I try. I was trying to pay Mullen/MSU a compliment, you peckerhead.
That's exactly what I was trying to say. I don't know why I try. I was trying to pay Mullen/MSU a compliment, you peckerhead.
It's funny that game is remembered as if LSU had it in the bag the whole time and gifted the win to Ole Miss. The score was OM 25 LSU 17 with less than 2 minutes to go with OM having scored 16 unanswered points. The yardage at the time was an astounding OM 426 LSU 172...with just a couple minutes left in the game.
LSU had a late touchdown, recovered an onside kick and then converted a miraculous 4th and 26 to be in that situation. If anything was flukey, it was the LSU comeback attempt. They were completely dominated in the second half.
Let's also not forget Mullen is trying to recruit with a MSU Compliance Department that is our own worst enemy. Bracky Brett needs to be fired in the worst way possible. The department as a whole needs a philosophy change. Make the NCAA do the work and find ****, don't serve it up to them on a 17ing silver platter. Ya wanna play with the big boys, follow the big boys lead when it comes to NCAA compliance. Otherwise we'll never catch up.
Of course, it would also help if our own 17ing beat writers weren't watching like hawks for "violations" like The Kang giving a kicker some tips at practice. Yeah, I'm calling you out for that ********, Veazey. You do a great job, but that was bush league.
Of course, it would also help if our own 17ing beat writers weren't watching like hawks for "violations" like The Kang giving a kicker some tips at practice. Yeah, I'm calling you out for that ********, Veazey. You do a great job, but that was bush league.
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I am having trouble seeing the compliments to MSU/Mullen.
Congenial - as opposed to the raging a-hole that Mullen is implied to be.
Hard working native son - I'll give the hard working a pass though the team's effort in the last few games was questioned by more than a few people, but certainly the "native son" is a reminder that above all, Mullen ain't from around here.
Tear a hole recruiting - again implying that Mullen has failed in this area.
Interpretation: The "smart" Bears are more afraid of Hud than they are of Mullen. A clear swipe at Mullen.
Interpretation: He was red hot in 10 and early 11, but since then he's just some blowhard mediocre coach. Another clear swipe at Mullen.
Interpretation: Ahh there it is, the inevitable Starkville sucks shot.
Interpretation: The Bears are more afraid of Hud than they are of Mullen. (I see a trend here.) Another swipe at Mullen.
Congenial - as opposed to the raging a-hole that Mullen is implied to be.
Hard working native son - I'll give the hard working a pass though the team's effort in the last few games was questioned by more than a few people, but certainly the "native son" is a reminder that above all, Mullen ain't from around here.
Tear a hole recruiting - again implying that Mullen has failed in this area.