Mullen's team is so unprepared.
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This was at the end when it became obvious that Williams has never taken a snap in practice with the 1 offense when u know ur down to 2 qbs. This after watching one special teams blunder after another. I often wonder when watching this team if Dan even attends practice.
How about the first time we had Bama in a 2nd (or 3rd) and very long situation......we had to take a timeout because we only had 10 men on the field.
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one play showed that our team was completely, and totally unprepared last night? Hell even if it were 3-4 more, I would ask again.
ETA: you mention a defensive play (Collins) which as a unit played lights out, nice
one play showed that our team was completely, and totally unprepared last night? Hell even if it were 3-4 more, I would ask again.
ETA: you mention a defensive play (Collins) which as a unit played lights out, nice
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In this case it does, because it wasn't any one play, it was the FIRST play that that situation arose and our team clearly had no idea what they were supposed to do. How the hell you can not know what to do in 3rd and long is just beyond me. THAT by definition is completely and totally unprepared.
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our defense was completely, and totally, unprepared last night?
ETA: the original poster suggested that for the whole game our team was unprepared. That's just dumb. One play does not prove that. Were they unprepared on one play? Maybe, but not for the game, as he suggested.
our defense was completely, and totally, unprepared last night?
ETA: the original poster suggested that for the whole game our team was unprepared. That's just dumb. One play does not prove that. Were they unprepared on one play? Maybe, but not for the game, as he suggested.
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The guy is
a 3rd string, freshman QB going against the #1 team in the country. Even then, he still made a few good throws that our WRs 17ed up. I mean I wasn't expected Peyton Manning to show up.
a 3rd string, freshman QB going against the #1 team in the country. Even then, he still made a few good throws that our WRs 17ed up. I mean I wasn't expected Peyton Manning to show up.
Some of you guys are on such a witch hunt against Mullen that you're not being reasonable. Our offense did what pretty much every offense has done against Bama. They have a bad *** defense. I understand the frustration with special teams but last nights issues were more on Lewis. He just had an awful game.
That would be hard to argue, given that they played pretty well against the #1 team in the nation. It suggests that the position coaches have them prepared for their assignments, but the DC hasn't prepared them to know what scheme they want in certain situations.
I think Mullen's just not smart. No imagination, no adjusting, completely hard headed.
The defense play their *** off and gave the offense plenty of chances to win the game. And the offense and the special teams (both coached by Mullen) looked completely inept for most of the game.
The defense play their *** off and gave the offense plenty of chances to win the game. And the offense and the special teams (both coached by Mullen) looked completely inept for most of the game.
Agree to disagree
To say our defense (or team) was unprepared all night long bc of one (or even a few) play is reaching, to put it nicely.
To say our defense (or team) was unprepared all night long bc of one (or even a few) play is reaching, to put it nicely.
I don't know what Mullen had to do with a perfectly thrown pass by our freshman backup qb to Wilson that was DROPPED. Sure td there. I will say after watching/playing/ photographing football most of my life, you can tell ALOT by the post game handshakes and interaction. Bama players were seeking out Dogs to shake their hands and talk. Yes they won, but got their Ar$$'$ handed to them on many individual cases. And it Showed. Yes Dan ran TOO MANY little man L Perkins between the tackles, and too many TR runs. But this team was different tonight. I said from the beginning that this team has the possibility of being a factor late in the season. OK so they made me look stupid at SC, but I'm telling you and not because I'm a Mullen fan cause I'm not, that this team has the POSSIBILITY of being relevant again. Alot of young good looking talent.......I sure hope they prove me right these last two games. I'll shut up now and get your feedback.
It's the defensive equivalent of the players not knowing the play that was called. And that amounts to preparation. If we went 5 wide for the first time because we faced a 3rd and long, and nobody knew who the 5th WR was supposed to be, can't you see that that would be a lack of preparation?
"all night long" is certainly not the same thing, but bottom line we are not as prepared as any other SEC team.
When most offenses get to the 1 yard line, they score. We have a problem with it, and it boils down to Dan's stubbornness. Ditto, Special Teams. If you want to pretend that trait will go away next year just because the schedule is easier, go ahead. But most of us won't pretend.
There are many legitimate gripes to be had about Mullen and goodness knows I'm more than happy to point them out from time to time -- but I don't see many of them in this thread.
Last night = his tenure. Alot of really good things -- a few bad ones that cost us. I'm both excited about how we played -- and sick about the final result. We may wait another 30 years for a #1 Alabama team to gift wrap us a game like that with 4 turnovers, 3 in their own territory. We just failed to capitalize -- as is the norm under Mullen -- and are left with a million "what if"s...
Last night = his tenure. Alot of really good things -- a few bad ones that cost us. I'm both excited about how we played -- and sick about the final result. We may wait another 30 years for a #1 Alabama team to gift wrap us a game like that with 4 turnovers, 3 in their own territory. We just failed to capitalize -- as is the norm under Mullen -- and are left with a million "what if"s...
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we'll have to just agree to disagree. Nothing shown last night, ESPECIALLY ON D, leads me to believe that team was unprepared. One play does not equal unprepared. They were maybe unprepared on that one play, but from the kickoff to 0:00 that team was as prepared as can be (on defense). That cannot be disputed.
we'll have to just agree to disagree. Nothing shown last night, ESPECIALLY ON D, leads me to believe that team was unprepared. One play does not equal unprepared. They were maybe unprepared on that one play, but from the kickoff to 0:00 that team was as prepared as can be (on defense). That cannot be disputed.
That's true. Alabama brought their F game and we brought our A game (or what we consider our A game-at least on defense), but we couldn't win. When you don't have a running game, chances are you aren't going to win.
So when Bama called a timeout because they didn't like what they saw for the play called you would have to say they were unprepared as well.
If it was from a formation or matchup that they should have expected to see, then yes. I don't see how you can say 2nd and very long was something you wouldn't expect to encounter.
I don't feel like bashing the D after a hell of a performance. But the question was asked for an example, and i gave a clear one.
This pretty much sums up my sentiment
People keep talking about our potential for next season, and that it could be special bc our schedule is lighter, but our coaching is not going to change. We will just have the same product on the field with more experienced players. It's like people really think that Dan is a good coach and is some kind of mad genius but our position coaches and coordinators keep holding him back.
People keep talking about our potential for next season, and that it could be special bc our schedule is lighter, but our coaching is not going to change. We will just have the same product on the field with more experienced players. It's like people really think that Dan is a good coach and is some kind of mad genius but our position coaches and coordinators keep holding him back.
Then you would have to say that every team is unprepared. That goes for the Pros as well. They call timeouts to make sure the players know what to do all the time. There is a difference of a team not being prepared for a game and making an adjustment because of a formation that did not suit the called offensive play or the defensive alignment. Did they come out in a formation that is unusual for that down and distance? Did they throw a wrinkle in with their personnel that hasn't been seen in film study? You have 30 seconds to get it right while in the line of fire. The telecast mentioned we didnt have enough on the field but that was incorrect. That is not being unprepared that's trying to get your players in position to make a play. What was the outcome after the timeout? Good coverage and forced McCarrion to scramble. We end up holding them to a field goal. It was a good decision at the time. Made sure we had the match up we wanted against a very good team. The only change that was made was to bring Redmond over to cover the slot instead of him on the other side helping Love with coverage on Cooper. It was going to be a LB instead and that gave Bama a decided advantage with Christian Jones. It was the same defense and personel. That was the only change.
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That is the opposite of what i said. No, you do not see pro or college teams having to call a timeout the first time they see something basic like a 2nd and Long situation. The coaches clearly called a play and the players didn't know what to do. You can excuse it based on the overall results and just chalk it up to an isolated incident, but geez let's not pretend it didn't happen.
Your wrong. They only difference in the defense was Redmond covering Jones. There was no other adjustment made. Whether that was a change in coverage or Redmond was out of position I don't know. And you don't either. But the coaches was prepared for the play and the players were as well as seen by the fact that no other player was moved except Redmond. I don't like throwing players under the bus but if I had to guess he was the only one out of position. But it may have been a coverage adjustment. It may have a little to do with his inexperience but thats just me. I brought up the result of the play after the timeout only because Bama ran the same formation before the timeout and we ran the same defense before and after. It was identical with the exception of Redmond. That is being prepared and at least 10 of the players were as well.
I said you see even pros having to call timeouts all the time to adjust. Not for a particular down and distance. Heck they will call a timeout to see what the alignment is and call another right behind it to adjust to it in critical situations.
I said you see even pros having to call timeouts all the time to adjust. Not for a particular down and distance. Heck they will call a timeout to see what the alignment is and call another right behind it to adjust to it in critical situations.
Your wrong. The only difference in the defense was Redmond covering Jones. There was no other adjustment made. Whether that was a change in coverage or Redmond was out of position I don't know. And you don't either. But the coaches was prepared for the play and the players were as well as seen by the fact that no other player was moved except Redmond. I don't like throwing players under the bus but if I had to guess he was the only one out of position. But it may have been a coverage adjustment. It may have a little to do with his inexperience but thats just me. I brought up the result of the play after the timeout only because Bama ran the same formation before the timeout and we ran the same defense before and after. It was identical with the exception of Redmond. That is being prepared and at least 10 of the players were as well.
I said you see even pros having to call timeouts all the time to adjust. Not for a particular down and distance. Heck they will call a timeout to see what the alignment is and call another right behind it to adjust to it in critical situations.
I said you see even pros having to call timeouts all the time to adjust. Not for a particular down and distance. Heck they will call a timeout to see what the alignment is and call another right behind it to adjust to it in critical situations.
I don't see how in the world you could watch last night's game and it not piss you off. We were/are so bad in two of the three phases of the game with Russell at QB.
Bama played so poorly. They looked like a team that knew they wouldn't be threatened, and that's probably how they prepared. We had a chance for the biggest win in 30 years, but our absolute ineptitude on O and SP prevented us from even making it a game. Really, not much different that A&M.
Its so hard to watch at this point.
Bama played so poorly. They looked like a team that knew they wouldn't be threatened, and that's probably how they prepared. We had a chance for the biggest win in 30 years, but our absolute ineptitude on O and SP prevented us from even making it a game. Really, not much different that A&M.
Its so hard to watch at this point.
Don't be obtuse. Neither one of us know if that was the case or if they decided to change coverage. That was just speculation on my part and you know it. You didn't even have a clue about that much of the alignment and was just going by the telecast saying we didn't have enough players on the field. Which was not correct. Either way they played the same personnel and the same defense before the timeout and after. The presnap alignment was identical with the exception of Redmond. The coaches were not confused with the 2nd and 17 play called by the offense and at least 10 of the players were not confused and it might of been all 11 of the players as far as either one of us know.
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I wouldn't say we were inept on offense. Without looking, I would say we probably did what everyone else has done against Bama.
Must have been a different game at DWS than on TV. Everybody in the chat thought there were a lot of improvements made, more that still need to be made (missed ya in the chat!).
We're bad in 2 of 3 phases of the game with Dak or Darien. Nothing would have changed that last night. Bama wasn't losing last night.
ETA: Pissed off is OSU, LSU, BG, UK (etc?). Bama, AU, and TAMU was the correct barometer.
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