Any appetite out there in the forum for an enrollment "enhancement" of some degree for the following season for teams that gain the extra practices/games the rest of the state are not entitled to in this tournament? Each round of advancement would incur some set multiplier boost? Chew on that one as we await Week 1 games.
Multiplier for Prep Bowl advancement?
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I believe that every team in Illinois can practice all the way through the final Friday of the playoffs. Most choose not to but it is an option.
What kids would want to practice if there were no more games? They would have to set up some type of prep bowl for those teams that wanted to continue on that didn't make the IHSA playoffs.
A little early to be hating on the Prep Bowl isn't it? I love the Prep Bowl.It started in 1927 & predates the playoffs.Though it isn't what it used to be & I think it is stupid to limit who can play in it from CCL & CPS it is neat & has some pretty good games.If the Prep Bowl is eliminated like so many want, becareful what you wish for.CPS already has said if the Prep Bowl is gone ALL CPS teams eligible for the playoffs would get in,so no more just 2 from the Windy City Conferences, & All eligible Inner City teams get in.So last year that means 20 to 26 more teams would have gotten in the state playoffs from the CPS & would have knocked out quite a bit of the suburban schools.
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Seniors turn in their pads. Underclassmen move up to the varsity. The only downside would be for the freshmen who did not plan on coming back next year. If you can't motivate your players maybe you give them a participation ribbon...
Why can't this happen? Why can't other conferences set up a Prep Bowl type playoff? Is it agaianst IHSA rules to set up another tournament for teams not in the State Playoffs? The Prep Bowl has lost a lot of its luster with State Playoffs, but it can benefit kids who are returning the next season tobgetvthe extra snaps. If it can be set up between other conferences too then why wouldn't you be in favor of those extra games
Does the "not gain re-entry" hold for BOTH the public and private sides of the Prep Bowl brackets? This tournament is somewhat analogous to the NIT and CBI found in college hoops.
IHSA probably doesn't want competition to their playoffs games going on state-wide. I wasn't following High School football closely back then but if I remember right it was a condition the Catholic league wanted and the IHSA granted because they want the Catholic league. (be careful what you wish for).
If it happened how about four conferences of equal size and quality of play have a two game playoff. Regional bragging rights. Think of the NIT basketball tournament.
Interesting concept but no way would the IHSA go for it.
I agree with you. For the teams that want to practice (that are not part of the prep bowl)- they should set up something for games (if it's allowed by IHSA). Quite a few kids would be on to wrestling or Basketball though and that's probably why most teams (outside of prep bowl) take a pass.
We couldn't even keep many Sophomores out for the playoffs at MC once basketball and wrestling started. They weren't playing our suiting up so they bailed and those teams were making runs to the finals in the mid to late 90s.
Oh ok. Well that answers that question then, thank you for the info. There was a thread earlier in the year about the IHSA allowing all teams into the playoffs, does anyone believe the Prep Bowl would survive that? As a CCL guy I like the idea of the tradition of the Prep Bowl but it has lost almost all of its luster. If all teams are in the State Playoffs does that bring the Prep Bowl to an end?
In 1979 when the thought was what to do with the Prep Bowl to change it up they were going to invite Oak Lawn for sure & Thornwood or Eisenhower I think from Sica who went 7-2.But the IHSA said no that those conferences sent schools to the State Playoffs and made some rule.Now Joliet Catholic & Marian Catholic were invited from the Illini 8 that year but even back then other schools cried like babies,so after that year Joliet Catholic & Marian Catholic weren't allowed in the Prep Bowl until they joined the Catholic League.Then schools cried about it then.So now only Illini Conference CPS schools can play in the Prep Bowl playoffs,No Chicago or Inner City Conference schools can.Those conferences had their own playoffs between themselves but schools cried about that!!!,so that stopped.As far as the Catholic schools only Chicago City Catholic school teams can make the Catholic Prep Bowl playoffs.The schools not in Chicago like Fenwick,Loyola,St.Laurence are grand fathered in & eligible.I'm not sure if Chicago Hope Academy would be eligible but maybe since they are in Chicago yes.Non Private Chicago schools such as Marist & St.Patrick are not eligible for the Prep Bowl playoffs just as Providence,St.Joe's or Bishop Mac weren't.Schools as stated before & me about 100 times thru the years can practice up to the last games of the year.If they opt not to do so then why punish schools for extra practice? I think much of this stems from a few years back that Fenwick went 3 & 6 then won 3 games in the Catholic playoffs before losing in the Catholic Final.Finished 6-7 but had 4 extra weeks of practice that springboard a great year the following season & schools threw a tantrum.
That is stupid.So then if you go by the new rules the Catholic side of the playoffs would have been Mt.Carmel 4-5,Providence Catholic 4-5,De La Salle 5-4,Leo 3-6 but if the IHSA still goes by only certain teams can go then replace Providence with DePaul College Prep 2-7.
Is the Catholic League just doing the in the playoffs & non qualifiers are in the prep bowl thing or is that go for the CPS too?
I think all teams Chicago Conference & Inner City should have a chance at the Prep Bowl.I have heard it before that the Chicago Conference schools top 2 make the state playoffs but can't make the Prep Bowl playoffs which is double stupid as well as Inner City teams would get destroyed.Let them in.Give them a shot.City schools get killed in state most times but they still get a chance
The Friars were 3-6 in 2005 with a 1-5 record in the CCL Blue and made the Prep Bowl Playoffs because they were in the CCL Blue. Fenwick did win three games and eventually lose to Brother Rice the CCL Championship Game to finish the season 6-7.
This "springboarded" the Friars to a 6-3 season in 2006 which culminated with a First Round OT loss to Hubbard in the State Playoffs and a subsequent loss to Brother Rice in the CCL Championship Game after not playing for 21 days.
I'm not sure that would qualify as a "great" year.