I think you know why the media isn't outraged. It doesn't fit their agenda.
Murder in Memphis
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"Memphis is no different than anywhere else."
You serious Clark?
You serious Clark?
I have lived near DC since 2016, and in that time that city has fallen into pretty much utter chaos (and has been on a rapid decline since June 2020).
The volume of crime and the locations where crime is occurring have both increased/spread.
You and your car are both targets.
Underaged kids are being used in higher volume to commit serious crimes (e.g. carjackings, which can easily devolve into shootings/murder) because their records are sealed and the DC court system releases them from jail at 18.
When I used to go into DC more regularly,
I recognized the importance of being vigilant.
Now, with increased crime, including stabbings and shootings, and cops nowhere to be found,
I recognize that I am taking a personal risk anytime I enter the District.
While I am still willing to go, at certain times and for certain reasons, there is no way my wife is going to just meander in there with the children anymore, let alone be on the streets of DC alone at 4:00 AM.
Even mid-day, taking the kids, think of how exposed she is to a carjacker, while she is fiddling with car seats, etc.
Four years ago, I had little problem if my wife and kids walked a few blocks in Manhattan, even at night. They were together, and they knew where they were going.
That is over. Probably forever. While the “new decline” of US cities began several years back, Covid was the death knell, and there is no appearance of any type of restoration on the horizon.
I am too old and I have learned too much and my family is too important to me to just say, “be diligent” and pray for the best.
Bruh refusing to let your wife jog at 4 am in DC is gonna ruin your street cred.
10000% this lady considered herself "woke."
The saddest thing is that nobody talks about it until a white woman is the victim. Black people are the victims every minute of every day. All because of 60 years of failed liberal policies. That should be the story, every day.
Sean Hannity tried this in the summer of 2020, running through the volume of black deaths in major cities, bringing families on his show to discuss their tragedies, etc.
Last I checked, NY, IL, CA, etc. voted heavily for Biden that fall.
Bub, keep hanging on that word CIRCUMSTANCES and calling other people dumbasses all you want.
I am truly sad for her family and I hope the guy gets the chair. With that said, if I want to go for a swim and I choose to do it in the Everglades and get eaten by a 12 foot alligator, I promise you there will be people at my funeral calling me a dumbass. There is no reason for a female to be out on a street of a historically dangerous US city at 4am by herself. Many other options out there including a larger group, a gym membership, or a friggin treadmill.
Predators are out there, and they are not going away. There's no reason to help them out, no matter what the circumstances are.
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Do you really think a different outfit would have stopped that f#cking animal from raping and killing her?
Maybe, I haven't heard of any Amish, Mennonite or Latter Day Saints Church women getting abducted and killed while jogging in their long dresses.
Reminds me of the day I knocked on an Amish door or it maybe was Mennonite, this woman answered the door, and it about floored me. Some Amish dude went to town and got him an English girl. I've only seen it once but good job Graber.Maybe, I haven't heard of any Amish, Mennonite or Latter Day Saints Church women getting abducted and killed while jogging in their long dresses.
The term English refers to any Northern European non-Amish person who speaks English.
The womans family were billionaires. I guess she thought she was safe but if my family were billionaires I would be running with two ex Navy seals or Rangers.
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Ha, you watch Sean Hannity. And TN voted for Trump. So what? Are you actually trying to imply that if the entire nation was deep red, violence would just grind to a halt and we'd be living in Pleasantville?
Why is it that in a mass shooting thread, all I read is that evil exists and nothing will stop it so we must live with it but then someone here will cherry pick some random tragedy in a big city and say "welp, liberals something something." Not everything is black and white, or in the case some of you are making, red and blue. Can't have it both ways but you guys sure try.
Wanna be clear I don’t actually know the victim at all, I just know a couple they were friends with. My friend that knew her is the nicest, most optimistic, forgiving, altruistic, Jesus-following, positive person I’ve ever met. He sees the good in everyone. TBH it’s sickening and honestly the reason I’m not better friends with him bc I tend to be a cynical a-hole in my thoughts, and I just can’t relate. The little I know about this woman, she comes across as similar to my friend and I assume it’s why they were friends with each other. If she was like him, she wasn’t “woke” and didn’t look down on others… just likely overly naive and optimistic. Would I ever put myself in that situation? No. But I have a hard time pointing the finger and judging her for her own death, basically for having a much purer outlook on the world. If everyone were like that, the world would be unrecognizably amazing. I’m not going to pile on her for that.
IMO the toughest thing about this is that it could happen to anyone. Sure you can rationalize that you’d never be in a similar situation nor “let” your wife be in the same situation… as if you’re a Saudi prince who controls every aspect of your spouse’s behavior. But it’s a defense mechanism bc there are tons of things your wife/gf does solo. Shopping. Getting oil changed. Getting gas. Exercising *in a gym* and walking to the car alone when it’s just dark. And if you’re the type to demand to know where she is 24/7 so you can “protect” her… well guess what, she probably doesn’t tell you the full truth 100% of the time bc she doesn’t want to hear another condescending domineering rant when she feels intelligent and empowered enough to handle her own day to day ****.
She may have been naively reckless but that doesn’t make her worthy of her or her family being called idiots and dumbasses because she was abducted and murdered… and God knows what else. Was the guy just shot in Memphis at a convenience store in broad daylight a dumbass too? It’s equally sad and senseless and there’s no reason to blame him for *being shot*. Good grief.
IMO the toughest thing about this is that it could happen to anyone. Sure you can rationalize that you’d never be in a similar situation nor “let” your wife be in the same situation… as if you’re a Saudi prince who controls every aspect of your spouse’s behavior. But it’s a defense mechanism bc there are tons of things your wife/gf does solo. Shopping. Getting oil changed. Getting gas. Exercising *in a gym* and walking to the car alone when it’s just dark. And if you’re the type to demand to know where she is 24/7 so you can “protect” her… well guess what, she probably doesn’t tell you the full truth 100% of the time bc she doesn’t want to hear another condescending domineering rant when she feels intelligent and empowered enough to handle her own day to day ****.
She may have been naively reckless but that doesn’t make her worthy of her or her family being called idiots and dumbasses because she was abducted and murdered… and God knows what else. Was the guy just shot in Memphis at a convenience store in broad daylight a dumbass too? It’s equally sad and senseless and there’s no reason to blame him for *being shot*. Good grief.
So have they caught the SUV driving around shooting ppl? That's how they cover these right...like that rogue SUV that went on a killing spree in Wisconsin
Henderson should have still be in prison.
So should the Memphis shooter and the guy up in Canada who (along with his brother) stabbed almost 30 people and killed 10. All three were released early from convictions for violent crimes almost exactly the same as their most recent crimes.
You don't hear much about that Waukesha vehicle attack any more but that guy was the same.
If we want to talk about reforming parole and probation in this country, I'm all for making it much tougher for people convicted of violent crimes to see the light of day.
Unfortunately this is America in the year 2022. It will only get worse. So as a citizen of a violent nation we have to use wisdom and know our environment. This was Memphis, TN. New Orleans is the same as is Atlanta, GA and a host of other major cities. All are dangerous. So know your environment and act accordingly.
We have to understand that before we put on our track shoes and start jogging in the middle of the night it might be a good idea to skip it. Find somewhere else to exercise. A wise person can live to an old age, a not so wise person will probably leave the world a little earlier than expected. We are sad for this woman and very said she did not use wisdom in her actions. And she paid for it. Very sad.
Now let's turn our eyes on the criminal and fry him in the electric chair.
We have to understand that before we put on our track shoes and start jogging in the middle of the night it might be a good idea to skip it. Find somewhere else to exercise. A wise person can live to an old age, a not so wise person will probably leave the world a little earlier than expected. We are sad for this woman and very said she did not use wisdom in her actions. And she paid for it. Very sad.
Now let's turn our eyes on the criminal and fry him in the electric chair.
Unfortunately this is America in the year 2022. It will only get worse. So as a citizen of a violent nation we have to use wisdom and know our environment. This was Memphis, TN. New Orleans is the same as is Atlanta, GA and a host of other major cities. All are dangerous. So know your environment and act accordingly.
We have to understand that before we put on our track shoes and start jogging in the middle of the night it might be a good idea to skip it. Find somewhere else to exercise. A wise person can live to an old age, a not so wise person will probably leave the world a little earlier than expected. We are sad for this woman and very said she did not use wisdom in her actions. And she paid for it. Very sad.
Now let's turn our eyes on the criminal and fry him in the electric chair.
I agree with your sentiment here.
I find it odd when the retort is, “You could be shot pumping gas in the middle of the day, so don’t question a woman jogging alone at 4:00 AM!”
That’s like saying, “you can drown in an inch of water, so you might as well jump into the deepest part of the ocean and swim alone with sharks.”
To your point, things have just gotten much worse. Things that were fairly safe five years ago are not safe today.
Criminals have been let out on the streets en masse. Drugs are more prevalent and law enforcement has been reduced.
We are hearing about more and more of these crimes because there are more and more people committing them.
So looks like a 19 year old killed 4 and injured 3 others in Memphis yesterday. He was going around the city and shooting people while doing a Facebook live. Dear Lord I will be glad when my daughter gets out of the place.
I have some very close friends and a few relatives that live across the state line in Mississippi. It is actually a Memphis suburb. They refuse to go into Memphis because of the danger. They are getting up in years and would be an easy target no matter what time of day it is. One has a daughter who teaches school in Memphis and she is probably moving to Florida because of the danger in the Memphis public schools. She say it is a jungle and there is no such thing as discipline. Very sad.
My daughter taught 1st grade in South Memphis last year and it was a crazy environment. One day she pulled into the parking lot and 2 women were fighting across the street at an apartment complex. One lady was ramming the other ladies head into an iron fence. The public park beside the school was a gang hangout where there were drug deals going down constantly. I couldn't tell you how many times they were on lockdown due to shootings at various apartment complexes around the school. She is now at a school in Germantown which is a better area but that whole place is a cesspool of epic proportions.
The fact this is allowed to exist in the United States of America is disgusting. It could be easily stopped. But violence is good for liberal politicians so they turn their back and let it roll on.
So as individuals we have to use wisdom. I wish your daughter well and would recommend she explore job opportunities in Florida. Due to our growth we need more teachers especially experienced ones. Florida public schools are highly ranked and pay good salaries. They have the backing of the governor and state legislature. I would recommend a position in the rural parts of our state, in the North Florida or Central Florida area. It would be worth a look and most every county is looking for teachers. Good ones.
But the killer is clearly Amish so...Maybe, I haven't heard of any Amish, Mennonite or Latter Day Saints Church women getting abducted and killed while jogging in their long dresses.
Agreed.
If you're living in Memphis and not making active plans to get the hell out, you're doing life wrong.
Unfortunately her husband is the primary bread winner as he is an engineer and that is why they are in the crap hole to begin with.
Understood.
About 30 years ago my company wanted to transfer me to Atlanta to be close to the airport because I had to fly so often and needed access to an airport that could get me to most cities with a direct flight.
Not knowing any thing about Atlanta I took a trip to scout out a place to live and be close to the airport. After two days of looking I called the home office which was in Philadelphia and told the folks if I moved to Atlanta I would either get killed or kill somebody. I told them it was out of the question. Their answer, keep looking. I finally settled on a spot 60 miles North of Atlanta and had to get up at 3:00 AM to make a 6 o'clock flight. The airport is South of Atlanta. But I was safe.
As soon as I retired I got as far away from Atlanta as I could. It is just a bigger Memphis and dangerous as New Orleans.
I pray for your daughter's safety and understand your concern.
His company has a factory in Lexington so they hope he can transfer there soon.
Was he an early covid release? I'd love to see the numbers on these covid jail releases and who already committed another crime. I'm guessing the numbers are pretty shocking, which is why we don't see them. If it was a success story, we'd know.
Lockdown and refusal to prosecute certain crimes lead some of these cities to where they are today with a tidal wave of violent crime. Murder, serious assaults, and car jackings are through the roof in many cities; with most of these leaders doubling down on failed policies.
How sad is it that someone really should not go jogging in their neighborhood at 4am because it's more likely than not that something bad will happen. Yet that same thing can be said for multiple cities. That's where we are today.
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It just boggles my mind.
It's a wonder the kidnapper/killer served 20 out of 24 years! Of course, you look at his rap sheet which started at 13, included rape before he committed his first armed kidnapping at 16....well, I guess that dude was so bad even our f'd up system couldn't let him out after 7.