My heart is with Hartline
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You seem very knowledgeable about OSU. Why so?
Because I follow college football not just Penn State...weird I know
I don't know why that would make one bit of difference. They are two different people and bring their own skill sets. Knowles primarily built his reputation outside of OSU anyway, and he hasn't even been around PSU long enough to be considered a failure as it's pretty widely known that it takes him 2-3 years to really get results. Why Franklin hired a guy that needs 2-3 years when we were in a championship or bust season is anyone's guess.
I still lean to Chesney but certainly would accept Hartline's potential. I wonder what type of staff he could assemble and can he build a successful coaching staff?
He can recruit and develop players. Imagine that, would be nice to have a coaching staff that actually developed players for once not just recruit.
It recruits itself because they actually develop players for the NFL with a proven track record and they win the big games. Something the PSU previous coaching staff could do neither.
Then thought enough of him to promote him to call plays. He was not demoted from OC. He became Co-OC. He admittedly learned a ton about how to call plays and set teams up for plays from Chip Kelly. The play calling has been very good for OSU this year with Hartline calling the plays as OC.
All true but he is so imbedded in the Mormon faith I just don't ever see him leaving unless they fire him. He is actually a big power guy a shaker and a mover in the Mormon Church a big-time recruiter for that church. Doubt he ever leaves there. I also doubt that Kraft would be all that interested in him. Culturally he would be a bad fit at PS. I'll call this one not happening but that's just my opinion.
He'd start next MondayHartline isn't coming here. And even if he did he will have about 50 players left on the roster when he arrives in February.
He might start assembling a staff and recruiting, but can't see him walking away from the playoffs.
He'd walk away...they have 3 weeks to prep for his absense...he didn't want to leave them midweek for a CCG and cause chaos or be a distraction.
Of any school out there, Ohio State wouldn't miss a beat the rest of this year with Day calling plays as opposed to Hartline.
Him leaving now would be a huge distraction. Day hasn't called plays in probably 6 years and only did so for a few years. It's a big change.
And maybe someday when Day leaves he goes back there but that's a good problem to have because it means he was very successful
OSU is built and supported different, most coaches look great there, Chip Kelly for example, was not the Chip of UCLA, or the Raiders.
Chip had some success though right?
Not sure anyone can fix the Raiders and UCLA is basically a graveyard for coaches now
So what. If he wants to be a head coach, then he should be told that he needs to leave immediately. It's not like he's the head coach. God, the head coach of a playoff team just left to take another job.
Didn't everyone just bash Kiffin for leaving his team but now you want Hartline to do the same?
I didn't bash Kiffin. IMO, if he was leaving, then he did the right thing by getting on with his new job ASAP. And why would Ole Miss want to hold on to a LSU head coach any longer?
You forfeit both 2026 and 2027 if you hire a coach who isn't walking in to the building until February, but then again you love that don't you? No wonder you support the hire
I don't think we should hire anyone from Ohio State. This is not like when Larry Johnson went to Ohio from Penn St. He was screwed over at Penn State as was everyone associated with Joe. He left with a chip on his shoulder and helped take Ohio to the next level. Hartline will always be a Buckeye as his experience there has been positive. He will be happy to get a head coaching job and will be forever grateful to Ohio St. for putting him in that position. This is not the leader we need if we intend to be elite and challenge Ohio.
Dude has insane talent at his disposal. Never been a head coach. Pretty questionable hire.
I think Hartline is a subpar choice and a current head coach is a much better option, but at this point it would seem incredible if they just would choose him and announce it today.
Problem is that the longer this drags on, the even worse it is to sign a guy who is not an established head coach. We desperately need someone who can "hit the ground running" and not be learning the ropes of being the man in charge.
Problem is that the longer this drags on, the even worse it is to sign a guy who is not an established head coach. We desperately need someone who can "hit the ground running" and not be learning the ropes of being the man in charge.
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Meaning:
You're waiting for DeBoer to leave Alabama after the loss in the SEC Championship game.
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Or Sitake or Hartline...none are going to announce prior to the gameMeaning:
You're waiting for DeBoer to leave Alabama after the lose in the SEC Championship game.