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huskerfan1414

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Toms Wife said:
73-25 since 2010.

3 Conference Titles
5 Division Titles

Approximately 40th in recruiting rankings.

Play tough defense...run the ball...don't make mistakes.
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Absolutely. And wed fair better as i believe we could recruit better. Even averaging 25th.
Play tough disciplined football.
 
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Toms Wife said:
73-25 since 2010.

3 Conference Titles
5 Division Titles

Approximately 40th in recruiting rankings.

Play tough defense...run the ball...don't make mistakes.
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It's an absolute shame (and makes us look like a joke) that Alvarez took the blueprint from Nebraska and used it to turn around Wisconsin. Alvarez did not win a NC, but he certainly has kicked TO's *** as an athletic director.
 
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It's an absolute shame (and makes us look like a joke) that Alvarez took the blueprint from Nebraska and used it to turn around Wisconsin. Alvarez did not win a NC, but he certainly has kicked TO's *** as an athletic director.
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Our current A.D. worked under Alvarez for 5 years at Wisconsin, and got this job based on a recommendation from Alvarez.

Apparently Shawn didn't learn the blueprint during his time in Madison.
 
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Toms Wife said:
73-25 since 2010.

3 Conference Titles
5 Division Titles

Approximately 40th in recruiting rankings.

Play tough defense...run the ball...don't make mistakes.
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In order for that to happen, you need just 1 of 3 things.

An administration that actually cares.
An AD that has their own vision and can make up their mind without "experts".
A coach that wants to play that style of game.

Sadly, we don't have a single one of those things.
 
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Tuco Salamanca said:
Wisconsin is never in the talk for a national title. Even the years they won those conference titles, they got beat by a more athletic team in the bowl. If "Tom" wants that, awesome. But Bo Pelini and Frank Solich could have given you what Wisconsin does
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And that sounds really good right now. "There is no elevator to success. You've got to take the stairs."

Taking the stairs means getting to Wisconsin's level first.
 
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PeliniTheCrutch said:
And that sounds really good right now. "There is no elevator to success. You've got to take the stairs."

Taking the stairs means getting to Wisconsin's level first.
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The problem is people who think there is only one staircase to success.

Wisconsin and Iowa and people with lesser athletes play ball control and rely on defense rarely beat teams with better athletes. After all these years of "success" at Wisconsin, why aren't they getting more talented recruits? I'll answer. They don't try. They recruit like Pelini and coach a little better. Teams that dont recruit at the elite level, never reach that level of success. They plateau, just like Mark did. It's just like Nebraska of the 70's and 80's, lots of wins against bad, mediocre and decent teams, and losses to the teams with more talented.

It is what it is. 9 wins was determined by the powers that be and the fan base to not be enough.
 
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Tuco Salamanca said:
The problem is people who think there is only one staircase to success.

Wisconsin and Iowa and people with lesser athletes play ball control and rely on defense rarely beat teams with better athletes. After all these years of "success" at Wisconsin, why aren't they getting more talented recruits? I'll answer. They don't try. They recruit like Pelini and coach a little better. Teams that dont recruit at the elite level, never reach that level of success. They plateau, just like Mark did. It's just like Nebraska of the 70's and 80's, lots of wins against bad, mediocre and decent teams, and losses to the teams with more talented.

It is what it is. 9 wins was determined by the powers that be and the fan base to not be enough.
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And again, I'll take Wisconsin's results. Haven't seen them in years. Heard lots of excuses though.
 
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scarletred said:
One has won a conference title the other struck out. Fact.
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Could have given you was my quote. Pelini's team played in 3 conference title games in 7 years, he could have won one in the future. He played in title games roughly half the years he coached. Your opinion is that he would have never gotten a win. I don't know that to be the case.


People like Tom, and apparently you, some of the boosters, and the administration decided that those results weren't good enough. You already had a team that won 9 or 10 games a year that didn't win or play for national titles like Wisconsin. Now you all are basically asking for what you already had back.
 
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Tuco Salamanca said:
Could have given you was my quote. Pelini's team played in 3 conference title games in 7 years, he could have won one in the future. He played in title games roughly half the years he coached. Your opinion is that he would have never gotten a win. I don't know that to be the case.


People like Tom, and apparently you, some of the boosters, and the administration decided that those results weren't good enough. You already had a team that won 9 or 10 games a year that didn't win or play for national titles like Wisconsin. Now you all are basically asking for what you already had back.
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I'll admit he should have won it in 2009. But he wasn't beating the recruiting doors down other wise Riley wouldn't be in the situation he is now at certain positions.. I didn't see Bo winning a conference title in the future for Nebaska, in fact it was getting worse by evidence of the 2012 conference CCG... And melt downs against Wisconsin and Iowa.
 
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PeliniTheCrutch said:
1. Obviously I'm not running the show and making the decisions.
2. The last guy never did quite make it up to Wisconsin's level.
3. Isn't is reasonable to expect better results out of the guy who takes over for the guy who got FIRED?
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1 - Easy to ***** and and pretend to run the show though huh?

2 - played in 3 CCG in 7 years and won a bunch of games. He was fired for being a tool.

3 - you can expect whatever you want. Usually there is an increase in win total and level of play by new coach. Of course, the fired coach usually isn't coming off a 9 win season. Sort of goes back to knowing who you are.

I choose to not ***** and moan about what this team isn't and cheer for them for what they are. If Riley doesn't get it done, he will be let go and a new coach will be brought in. Odds are the new coach will win between 7-10 games, will be a coach with a background in defense and will struggle with an offensive identity. And there will be people that ***** aboutbthis new coach not being able to beat the talented teams with this boring offense.
 
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Tuco Salamanca said:
1 - Easy to ***** and and pretend to run the show though huh?

2 - played in 3 CCG in 7 years and won a bunch of games. He was fired for being a tool.

3 - you can expect whatever you want. Usually there is an increase in win total and level of play by new coach. Of course, the fired coach usually isn't coming off a 9 win season. Sort of goes back to knowing who you are.

I choose to not ***** and moan about what this team isn't and cheer for them for what they are. If Riley doesn't get it done, he will be let go and a new coach will be brought in. Odds are the new coach will win between 7-10 games, will be a coach with a background in defense and will struggle with an offensive identity. And there will be people that ***** aboutbthis new coach not being able to beat the talented teams with this boring offense.
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Man, that was a ton of nonsense.
 
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Harry Caray said:
Our current A.D. worked under Alvarez for 5 years at Wisconsin, and got this job based on a recommendation from Alvarez.

Apparently Shawn didn't learn the blueprint during his time in Madison.
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Perhaps Alvarez unloaded his deadweight in Lincoln?
 
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B1G RED RULES said:
It's an absolute shame (and makes us look like a joke) that Alvarez took the blueprint from Nebraska and used it to turn around Wisconsin. Alvarez did not win a NC, but he certainly has kicked TO's *** as an athletic director.
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The thing is, Alvarez has been better as an AD than a coach. Throughout his coaching career, he was typically around 5th out of 11. OSU, Michigan, Penn St., Iowa were better and even teams like Purdue & Illinois were on the level of Wisconsin. This new Wisconsin phenomenon is just what it is to every other team since Nebraska joined the B1G - new. No one would've predicted it would take Alvarez to step down as coach to vault them into one of the conference's best.
 
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The thing is, Alvarez has been better as an AD than a coach. Throughout his coaching career, he was typically around 5th out of 11. OSU, Michigan, Penn St., Iowa were better and even teams like Purdue & Illinois were on the level of Wisconsin. This new Wisconsin phenomenon is just what it is to every other team since Nebraska joined the B1G - new. No one would've predicted it would take Alvarez to step down as coach to vault them into one of the conference's best.
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As far as the Ferentz era Badgers are 9-7 against Herky. Barry first 5 games against the Hawks were losses but he then won 5 in a row and made it to the Rose Bowl more times than Iowa has.I'd beg to differ that Iowa was BETTER than Wisconsin.
 
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Asterisk conference titles. 2010 was three way split with MSU, Wisky and OSU all at 7-1. MSU beat Wisky that year.

2011 R Wilson year for them. 2012 they finish third in own division but OSU and PSU ineligible.

Yes, they've had good success. But they generally don't have the difference makers to win the big games. I'd assume Nebraska has higher national expectations than Wisconsin. Maybe not though. Been a while since NU fielded powerful teams.
 
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Wisconsin's style of football can absolutely win you a national title, there is just a small margin for error that comes along with it. We've had a few championship-level offenses and championship-level defenses throughout the last 10 years, just never together. That is the issue. The lack of coaching continuity has definitely played a role in that. I believe we've had over 50 different assistants come through the program since 2011.
 
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rosebowlx7 said:
In regards to Iowa, Ferentz was 4-3 vs. Barry.

Barry was 5-9 vs. Iowa as head coach from 1990-2005.

Overall, many in the B1G viewed Wisconsin as such stated until their recent transgression to the top.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa–Wisconsin_football_rivalry
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1990-2005
Wisconsin 118-73-4 (0.615)
Iowa 110-79-2 (0.581)
Despite Alvarez record head to head. Alvarez program was better than Iowa. 3 conference championships 1999 outright and Won 3 Rose Bowls other 2 split ,while Iowa split all their conference titles and no Rose Bowls while ending up in the Orange.
 
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Appears it is close. His record vs. Iowa is tiebreaker. If any were around the environment prior to 2010 (B1G fans, there's no fault for that as UNL was in B12), they would say Iowa had the edge in conference order at that time.

Conf. Championships: 3 ('90, '02, '04)
'BCS' bowls: 2 ('91 Rose, '02 Orange)

Also, and I know you'll say that's a bit irrelevant & that's fine, but Wisconsin didn't beat Iowa from 1977- 1996. 0-17-1. That certainly helped with perception over the years where teams stood.
 
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