My right-wing friends, why no outrage over this teacher?
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Shouldn't. One of the most important principles of being a good educator is not allowing indoctrination to permeate in the classroom at all.
Boomer you know I both support and promote people of Faith...I don't care what they believe.
I will argue for their right to believe whatever they wish, it is up to them to figure out if their Faith is grounded in Truth...that's not my place to decide that for them.
But you cannot honestly tell me that you or any other Leftists have as much of a problem with Muslims or any other people of Faith as much as you do with Christians.
If you do, link me to the outrage, derision, ridicule and outright hostility of those Religions posted on this forum like I regularly read about Christians on here everyday (one of them in this very thread...post # 6)
I don't say you folks on the Left want to shut Christianity down, but you sure have a problem with us participating in the self governing process, particularly when it comes to advocating for our concerns about a lack of morality, decency, or fidelity to our foundational principles which are rooted in Christian doctrine despite your refusal to admit to that.
Agreed......I still don't know what happened to her. I still blame my shortcomings on the 2nd grade nun teacher I had at St. Francis elem school in Morgantown. I actually had a buzz hair cut and she STILL found a way to yank on it and I still have knuckle issues due to her ruler discipline.
I know soooooo well what you describe here bornaneer having attending a RC elementary school for 8 years. Our Nuns were experts in measured degrees of pain infliction. Just enough to avoid the "abuse" label truth be told!
A lot of Muslim posters on here are there? Lots of posts about what Allah says about homosexuality? Lots of posts about abortion from the perspective of The Koran is there? Your reaching ATL. You think I don't have a problem with generations of young men and women being TAUGHT in the name of Allah to hate America? To hate in general? I abhor everything about it. But I have no problem with someone of Islamic faith being allowed to peacefully practice here in the states, and I feel a serious need to help defend Islam, due to the generalized statements made in this nation by many people (this teacher, our President, people in my own community). That might seem like a bias, but I just don't see the same threat to Christian people.
Would you break down the members of Congress based on the religion they openly support? Let's look at those numbers, and then discuss whether Christianity doesn't have a solid voice in the governing process. Maybe the reason the left lashes out so much about Christian principles being pushed on others, is that SOME Christians feel that they actually have the right to dictate to everyone else their morality and standards of decency.
The Atlanta Olympic bombing ... abortion clinic bombings/shootings ... but if you're talking specifically in the ME then we can talk about the Jews vs. the Palestinians killing each other.
There are Christian terrorist groups. I have to have terrorism training every year, and there are a couple of Christian terrorist groups listed in that training.
Same argument we come down to everytime. If they are truly terrorist groups (I don't know, don't care) then they aren't following Christian doctrine from the Bible, they're following something else altogether. The same cannot said about fundamental Muslim terrorists, because the Quran does tell them to do such things.
My students read and see work from many different perspectives, but I balance as evenly as I can. Civic engagement, history, geography, and even sociology isn't dependent on any one religious view of the world.....it does however take understanding multiple perspectives from men and women of different religious backgrounds to truly learn these sometimes complex subjects.
I understand your sentiment, and I'm aware of the New Testament, but doesn't the Old Testament do the same?
It's not about "dictating" boomer. It's a free exercise of one's right to believe AND participate in the Governing process.
You asked me for a list of Christians participating in the Congress, I'd ask you for a list of those legislators who are not attacked for "forcing" their Faith into the public discourse?
No Christians are trying to "force" their Faith onto non-believers boomer. As we've discussed, that is an individual choice. However, Christians have to right to advocate, encourage, promote, and Yes try to encourage acceptance of their Faith, and even argue for its efficacy in our Laws.
That's where the Left wants us to shut up and "keep our morality to ourselves". That's what the OP in post #6 of this thread was most sincerely interested in accomplishing...he just made a joke about it.
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There are no open ended commands for anyone reading the Bible to commit acts of murder, rape, etc. The Old Testament is framed as a history book.
No! Absolutely not boomer. No where does Almighty God require believers to kill in his name in order to "convert" non believers into believers!
In the Old Testament Faith is defended. Those trying to kill Christians for their beliefs are battled against, and Almighty God uses death to defend Justice or test allegiance to his promises because the Savior had not yet come to fix all of that.
But no where pre or post Christ are Christians required to "kill" in the name of Almighty God so that others may believe.
Absolutely not!
LOL you can't seriously morally equate that little list to the rash of killings inspired by Islam...you are not serious are you? [roll]
I thought it actually said to kill those that openly defy the commandments? A neighbor working on the sabbath, is one example o often hear
True. But I honestly wonder boomer, that given your open hostility to certain aspects of Christianity (calling Homosexuality a Sin for instance) how much of it you earnestly try and encourage your students to understand?
No. Go find where you think it said that. Read it again. Almighty God does not require any believer to kill a non believer for their non-belief.
Non believers trying to kill Christians often do draw his wrath in the form of help for Christians to wipe them out first.
It is NOT MY JOB to teach scripture or Christian ideology. Christian perspectives obviously are discussed, but to understand Christianity.....my students need to find a different building.
Talk to Dillon Roof boom. Or the the Parents here in my State who recently settled out of court over a lawsuit against their local school district and Christian student's wishes to Pray openly on campus?
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...suit-in-Georgia-settled-outside-of-court.html
While obviously a foolish statement there is a difference between a teacher wearing political attire in a public school and a teacher posting something political/religious on her social media account.
Understanding why Christians think it is a Sin?
I think it's a perfectly legitimate topic to help kids try and understand Christians. You said you're all about teaching "diversity".
Why exclude that teaching?
Sometimes ATL, your just a simple, closed minded, fool. THE ONLY THING I WOULD EVER "TEACH" STUDENTS ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY IS THAT THEY SHOULDNT BE ASHAMED OF THEMSEVES. AND THAT WOULDNT BE MY PLACE TO BRING IT UP EITHER. THE CLASSROOM IS NOT THE PLACE TO INDOCTRINATE STUDENTS -- JUST BECAUSE ITS STEP IN LOCK WITH YOUR PERSONAL VIEWS DOESNT MEAN ITS ACCEPTABLE! TRULY SAD ATL!
Because you folks get to promote, and protest, and argue for, and call ugly disgusting names in Public to anyone or anything you disagree with. Remember all of those disgusting posters and language at that openly hostile anti-Trump Feminist march back in January?
Christians try simply to Pray openly for Godly righteousness and to some on the Left we are worse than terrorists trying to blow us up!
Why do we always have to be tucked away in a corner somewhere barely audibly "mumbling" to ourselves while you radicals get to walk around cursing and swearing in open public defiance while calling us "undesirables"?
Diversity would be accepting homosexuality as a natural occurrence, and nothing to be ashamed of.....but I don't go there. I do however, bring work of homosexuals into the classroom without ever stating that the author was homosexual.
If you can't see a difference between a school campus and the streets of D.C., or the difference between a classroom lesson and a sermon, or the difference between a teacher and a minister......you've fallen very far from the American mindset, and should be ashamed of yourself!
Not if you're a member of the "diverse" Christian culture of our Nation, which argues it is as an immoral perverse sexual deviancy boom.
So why do you get to decide what gets taught or promoted in our so called "diverse" culture?
Again....I just said I don't bring up homosexuality in my classroom. It's not my place. If someone was being teased or ridiculed for being gay I'd stop it....that's it. Keep filtering for your crazed internal narrative
If you can't see the difference between bigotry or Religious intolerance or social stigmatization against people of Faith simply because you disagree with their stance for a Godly explanation of righteousness then you are not as openly "diverse" to our cultural heritage as you claim.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
You said you'd teach your students about "homosexual" contributions. What difference does it make who they choose to sleep with?
You'd defend or stop students from "teasing" a homosexual, but you refuse to tell them that Christian kids who think there's something immoral about that lifestyle are "normal"?
Homosexuality is OK, but a Faith that sees it as wrong is not?
Diversity on display in boomer's classroom.