My thoughts On visiting Madison for the Wisconsin Game - long

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As many of you might know, I watched the abortion of a game in person in Madison this past week. Here were my impressions for those interested.

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  1. Maybe all the hype about Wisconsin atmosphere made my expectations too high but I didn't really think much of State Street. It's pretty much just like Easton Ave at RU. Nothing special. Kind of boring really.
  2. WI has a nice event to engage the fans each quarter whether that be Sweet Caroline, Jump Around, Buttercup. I wish RU had that. The lack of fans made it less loud and effective than i'm sure it would be for a packed stadium.
  3. I didn't really think their stadium atmosphere was that great. It was largely quite other than for RU 3rd downs or a WI score. I expected better honestly. It was hyped as one of the best venues to watch a game. It did not feel like it (there were RU home games that were much much better). The crowd was pretty apathetic most times and it wasn't even close to being full. Official attendance was at 74K but was closer to 65K mid way through (a lot of people left when it was clear it was gonna be a blowout) and dropped down to about 55K in the 4th quarter. I thought midwest fans stick it out no matter what till the final seconds (like Nebraska fans are reported to do). I guess it doesn't apply to Wisky fans. I'm sure part of the reason was the ****** weather and ****** doormat of an opponent (******* Flood :chairshot:) but come on! Overall NOT impressed by the stadium atmosphere. It was ok but not impressive. Majorly let down tbh.
  4. I'm almost sure they pumped in crowd noise at the game because the crowd was pretty lackadaisical for the most part. The roar of the crowd was impressive, though in brief spurts, when RU was on some 3rd downs or when we were near out own endzone. But overall it was quite. I could definitely see the electric atmosphere it could generate against a marquee matchup with a packed stadium, in good weather. Unfortunately RU **** the bed and so did the weather.
  5. Nice marching band. I thought the halftime show of Les Miserables was interesting. @AreYouNUTS they had a band of about 300 people. I counted just for you. Nice and loud. [thumb2]
  6. I really liked how they had very few parking lots and instead had a few big parking decks to accommodate all the cars. RU should do something similar, green most of the parking lots and install parking decks instead. The architecture on builds was all over the place but that didn't matter since it was tied together by landscape. Again RU needs to do this to develop a more cohesive campus. BTW WI also has a bus system so using RU's bus system against it is silly. Other than better landscaping and everything being closer together, there is very little difference between RU's campus and Madison. Don't get me wrong, WI's campus is better but from what now seems like over exaggeration, it's not magnitudes better. All it takes is the money to get rid of the parking lots, put in parking decks and create the boulevards of landscaping between buildings. The buildings themselves at RU are fine. WI had plenty of ugly buildings as well.
  7. Their academic and athletic facilities look great. You can tell that WI is a rich university. I took a look inside their main engineering building, it was brand new (think the building on Livingston at RU) and looked like a really nice place to study/collaborate. I briefly saw their soccer and practice FB fields, those look great also. A lot of money went into architecture and maintenance of these.
  8. That ******* weather at the game was miserable particularly since I sat in HH which is the upper second deck across from the Rutgers sideline and close to the student section. There was a nice windchill going, along with the cold rain and the putrid Rutgers performance on the field made me glance at the clock and internally whine when this bloody game would be over. :thumbsdown:
  9. It's pretty neat that they have a lake on both sides of campus since the campus is on a isthmus. Must be great in the summer time.
  10. They had an on campus free zoo there which I took a look at (Villas Zoo or something) after the game. It was the most depressing place i've been at (that includes the game earlier in the day) in a while. For what little animals they have there, their habitats were woefully inadequate. It pretty much looked like I was looking at an animal prison rather than a zoo. I felt really bad for them. :cry:

Game Related
  1. There were WI fans near me that were rooting for Rettig to get that TD at the end because they felt sorry for us. That's how pathetic our program has become under Flood. Thanks Kyle... [sick]
  2. I was looking at the RU sideline as the blowout ensued. I saw NO fire, no emotion. Just an apathetic attitude from players and coaches. As if we were a 1aa opponent and a blowout was expected for our collected paycheck (albeit a B1G paycheck but we acted like a bought cupcake). Flood may have lost the team. There is NO winning attitude there. Unacceptable! :chairshot:
  3. Gause and Longa played well for the most part. They tackled hard and really helped stop the WI running game earlier on with numerous tackles for short gains, no gain and for loss.
  4. The WI passing game SUCKED. If we had a decent passing game we likely would have won since they wouldn't have been able to focus on stopping the run. Our running game and running backs played well before WI lost all respect for the pass.
  5. Laviano is not the answer at QB. If you saw, WI were taking away the inside throws and daring CL to throw to the outside of the receiver. That seriously reduced CL's throwing repertoire to just the screen pass (slants and crosses, CL's bread and butter, were completely shutdown). The one time CL threw to the outside was an incredibly SLOW ball thrown to either patton or agudosi on the left sideline where it hit a WI player's helmet and then was picked. I outright LOLed at that in the stands. It was soo pathetic. His arm strength prevented him from throwing that to where the WR could only get it and the throw was just too damn slow allowing the safety to get there and pick it off easily. Also WTF is with all his fumbles? One of the main reasons we lost this game was Laviano's piss poor performance. Laviano went 4/14 of which only 2 were good passes. Terrible.
  6. Rettig should be starting. I didn't see any of the issues checking in and out of the huddle this game as I saw from prior games. Which is great to see. He was pretty much given the entire 4th quarter with most of the plays being passes. He was pressured a lot but was still able to get the ball off to his receiver quickly. That is valuable to have. He went 2/6. I would say at least 4 were good passes. 1 of the incomplete were a drop and one was a midfield throw to Agudosi whom was too slow to get it due to not fighting the press quickly enough, making it look like an overthrow. That was actually a pretty good throw, splitting CB and safety. Agudosi was just too slow. That long bomb to agudosi in stride off of play action was a thing of beauty. Rettig pretty much self destructed though in the redzone. Don't really know what happened there. I think the OL broke down too much there. Either way, Rettig now gives us the better ability to stretch the defense vertically and horizontally along with our run game. BTW our run game was good today until WI stopped respecting the pass and started loading the box as a result.
  7. We need more explosive Wrs and TEs. Watching from the stands I could see that the WI DBs were in tight coverage most of the game giving very little room for the QB to throw the ball to the receiver resulting in a lot of contested throws. Our recievers are also not able to make tough catches or to win contested throws. That is a coaching and talent issue. I am worried that we won't have a legit receiving threat once Caroo graduates since our recievers don't make tough catches or create space from DBs consistently. Part of the reasons our QBs had a bad day was lack of receiver separation all while they had a pass rush in their face. It makes it doubly worse for CL because he can't get the ball to the receiver fast enough before any small gap closes or he is hurried/sacked. HR's fast release and arm makes this less of an issue if we had speedy WRs like Carroo.
  8. Our DBs show flashes but mostly they are too inexperienced to be good. That pick 6 in the flat was nice though. For some reason we like to play a lot of zone (on the coaches). A zone when you don't get pressure on the QB just allows the qb to pick your D apart. We weren't getting much pressure from our pass rush on their QB most of the game. When we played man a lot of the times our DBs were in place to make a play but did not put their hand in the recievers breadbasket to break up the pass. They were too slow. That comes with experience. They should be solid in a couple of years provided they don't get kicked off the team :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:. The DBs still commit a lot of silly mistakes that result it TDs, wether it be poor pursuit angles, lack of tackling (WI's rushing TDs yesterday were due to this). One particular TD play sticks out where our DB had perfect coverage on their receiver and then inexplicably trips and falls down. The result is a wide open receiver that the QB throws to for a TD. That was a perfect example where the issue wasn't coaching but execution. On TV it would have looked like a WR wide open with no DB near him. But in reality the DB with him tripped leading to him being wide open. This happened earlier in the game. BTW I think the DB who tripped was Cioffi.
  9. OL played well while run blocking earlier in the game but then played poorly. All game our pass blocking was terrible with our tackles getting beat constantly. Denmen had a poor game. The "fab 5" from 2012 turned out to be a real bust when facing legit competition. Disappointing.
  10. Can we TRY to punt more than 20-30yds? What happened to having a punter that can flip the field? WTF is up with our kickoffs that keep going out of bounds? Any legit college kicker should be able to make that. WTF id with Federico. Can't even hit a 30yd. Biggest goat of a kicker EVER. :flush: We started off mostly on our side of the field yesterday. It is tough to score points when we can't move the ball down field with the passing game while starting within our 20yd line most of the game. This is where Rettig would be the better QB option.

This was avery poor job by the coaching staff. They made no adjustments and continued with the same **** when they saw it wasn't working. It's like watching someone continually run into the wall. Like Einstein said, "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Our Coaches are just plain dumb. We put in a QB that can only throw 5yd slants and crosses reliably while continually starting within our 20yd line. Only way to score would be to string together many consecutive 3rd down conversions which is statistically unlikely. We constantly set ourselves up for failure and constantly make the game tougher than it needs to be with our over reliance on the running game and dink and dunk offense. I like how we kept to the dink and dunk offense with power running while still being down 2-3 scores.

No killer instinct. I had brought a guest with me that knew nothing about FB and had never watched a game before. His observation was that we did not play with any AGGRESSION. I couldn't agree more. We played complacently as if expecting and accepting a blowout loss. This is UNACCEPTABLE and a DISGRACE! :chairshot:

Credit the WI D whom played tight coverage a lot of the game and really closed fast to the ball giving us very little YAC. Their offense was nothing great. If we had a better, more consistent passing game that stretched the field, we likely could have won this game. Our short sighting coaching staff should get a lot of the blame as should OL, QB and receiver execution.

Overall the trip was well worth it including the, $80 per head, game ticket and the 90min drive from Milwaukee. I haven't seen RU play in person since I graduated when GS was roaming the sidelines. So i'm glad I made the trip. :)
 
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we're all a bit on edge here....writing "off" when you mean "of" really pissed me off even more! lol
 
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AreYouNUTS

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LOL well done sir! The size of their Sousaphone line, alone, was insane! Probably 20 MORE than RU's band!

- the only thing I'll say is this: I've watched a ton of Badger home games over the years, since BA turned things around there, and an 11AM start, against a lousy opponent, in the rain, is NOT going to have a "Sat night in November, OSU/Iowa/Michigan for a NYD bowl bid" type of atmosphere. I actually called it in my thread, the other day, about going to a "silent count" this week. What a joke.
 

Nickal0D1

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I really liked how they had very few parking lots and instead had a few big parking decks to accommodate all the cars. RU should do something similar, green most off the parking lots and install parking decks instead

You must never tailgate when you go to Rutgers games because this is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. Right now the best part of the Rutgers Football experience is the tailgating and to ruin that with parking decks would be completely moronic.
 

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PARKING DECKS....you are kidding me...might work there where its more of a bar scene than tailgating but not here, how the hell could people bring their spreads and grill.
 
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Abro1975

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Boston College has a parking deck right next to it's stadium and it is awful. No real place to even carry your beer and food (let alone table, bbq etc) to a nearby park area.

What a moronic idea.
 

BigRnj

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Parking decks NO. Took me 45 mins to exit one at a he Carrier dome with a 35k crowd
 

Blitz8RU

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we're all a bit on edge here....writing "off" when you mean "of" really pissed me off even more! lol

I can't remember the difference between off and of and am now to lazy to look it up. So I just put which ever one in there that I feel like at the time. Sorry grammar nazi but i'm set in my ways.
 

Blitz8RU

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You must never tailgate when you go to Rutgers games because this is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. Right now the best part of the Rutgers Football experience is the tailgating and to ruin that with parking decks would be completely moronic.

You can always just have a giant parking deck and have people roll out their tailgate stuff onto the large lawns and landscaping that replace the current parking lots (get creative it's not hard). Win win.

You can't possibly want the giant eye sore that is the parking lots for something that happens 6-7 times per year over beautifying the place that lasts the whole year. The trade off is not even close.
 

badger74

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I'm sorry but any similarity between State Street and Easton Ave. is in your head. And I'm from NJ and have been to both areas many times. Also the lakefront at UW is a pretty big deal.
Now go hire the Temple coach before somebody else does. I actually pull for RU to do well in the BIG.

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RU848789

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You can always just have a giant parking deck and have people roll out their tailgate stuff onto the large lawns and landscaping that replace the current parking lots (get creative it's not hard). Win win.

You can't possibly want the giant eye sore that is the parking lots for something that happens 6-7 times per year over beautifying the place that lasts the whole year. The trade off is not even close.
Enjoyed 99% of your post - thanks for the report. But please just stop with the parking deck nonsense. In what world is a deck more "beautiful" than gorgeous fields of grass that we get to conveniently park on and have great tailgates on? Dumbest idea ever, perhaps.
 
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Abro1975

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In what world ? If the parking deck had Open Bars, stripper poles with gorgeous ladies enthusiastically working, valets, bathrooms, a Chipotle And Jersey Mike's Subs, then maybe, just maybe, it could work :)

Enjoyed 99% of your post - thanks for the report. But please just stop with the parking deck nonsense. In what world is a deck more "beautiful" than gorgeous fields of grass that we get to conveniently park on and have great tailgates on? Dumbest idea ever, perhaps.
 

RU848789

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In what world ? If the parking deck had Open Bars, stripper poles with gorgeous ladies enthusiastically working, valets, bathrooms, a Chipotle And Jersey Mike's Subs, then maybe, just maybe, it could work :)
Sounds like the old blue lot, lol...
 

Blitz8RU

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Enjoyed 99% of your post - thanks for the report. But please just stop with the parking deck nonsense. In what world is a deck more "beautiful" than gorgeous fields of grass that we get to conveniently park on and have great tailgates on? Dumbest idea ever, perhaps.

Having parking decks and removing parking lots would allow you to have fields of grass to tailgate on. I'm not getting how having parking decks instead of parking lots would cut into tailgating as long as you had a way to move your tailgating stuff from your car to the tailgating area. Also nothing's stopping you from parking directly on the grass areas that replace the parking lots. Not getting what this angst is about tbh.
 

Nickal0D1

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You can always just have a giant parking deck and have people roll out their tailgate stuff onto the large lawns and landscaping that replace the current parking lots (get creative it's not hard). Win win.

You can't possibly want the giant eye sore that is the parking lots for something that happens 6-7 times per year over beautifying the place that lasts the whole year. The trade off is not even close.

To me a giant parking structure is much more of an eye sore then a parking lot. But to each their own I guess.
 

REDRICH65

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Don't worry about parking garages. That will only happen if we expand the stadium again. There won't be a need to do that in our lifetimes.
 

bac2therac

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Having parking decks and removing parking lots would allow you to have fields of grass to tailgate on. I'm not getting how having parking decks instead of parking lots would cut into tailgating as long as you had a way to move your tailgating stuff from your car to the tailgating area. Also nothing's stopping you from parking directly on the grass areas that replace the parking lots. Not getting what this angst is about tbh.


why the f would you actually want to move your tailgating stuff from a freakin parking deck to a tailgate area where you have no base...this isn't the freakin grove which by the way is catered isn't it.

in the future, there will be a parking deck at the RAC for those who want to use it
 
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All things considered, I actually enjoyed the weekend in Madison. The downside was the 11:00 AM start and of course the horrible weather. The positives were the game day atmosphere in the stadium: the singing of Buttercup, Shout and the Jump Around. It was great how the crowd got into it. The band was excellent. I sat near our brave group of about 20 band members who themselves were enthusiastic. I listened to the game on local radio and I could hear our first down music through the broadcast (whenever we made a rare 1st down). The Wisconsin band directors came over to Prof Smith and made sure everything was OK--I thought that was a class act.

I won't talk about the game as the less said the better. But here are 2 things I remember from the local radio broadcast: 1. The color guy said, "Unfortunately, Rutgers is dropping off the Wisconsin schedule for the next few years". and 2. When we went for the late FG, the announcer was scratching his head wondering why we would kick a field goal being down so many points. He finally guessed it was to give the kicker 'experience'. I laughed at that one
 
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PARKING DECKS....you are kidding me...might work there where its more of a bar scene than tailgating but not here, how the hell could people bring their spreads and grill.
I recall tailgating at a Cleveland Browns game in an underground parking garage. Lakefront Stadium gets really cold, so the underground parking and tailgating is not so bad.
 

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The stadium atmosphere might have been better had it not been for the weather, which sucked. The students make up a big part of that atmosphere, but they probably woke up Saturday morning, blearily looked outside, thought "not worth it" and went back to bed to sleep off their hangovers and rest up for Halloween night.

I've never heard of the sound guys pumping in crowd noise at the Camp. The Camp can get loud, but it can also be quiet during boring games. I think people were cheering extra loud for Corey Clement yesterday, since he was back from injury after missing several games.

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Having parking decks and removing parking lots would allow you to have fields of grass to tailgate on. I'm not getting how having parking decks instead of parking lots would cut into tailgating as long as you had a way to move your tailgating stuff from your car to the tailgating area. Also nothing's stopping you from parking directly on the grass areas that replace the parking lots. Not getting what this angst is about tbh.
You just don't tailgate do you? I'm not hailing my tents, grill, tv, coolers, tables, chairs and generator into an open field. At this point the only reason I enjoy going to the game is for the tailgating. If they had a parking deck instead of an open lot or field that would be it for me.
 

RU_Planning

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Madison is constantly rated as one of the best cities to live in (even with its winters!), in part because of State Street. Comparing it to Easton Ave is just foolish. George Street could be like a smaller State Street if New Brunswick expands downtown housing options.

I went to a Saturday night game at Camp Randall in 2008 versus Ohio State (Terrelle Pryor's freshman season) and sat in the student section (4 years after my grad school at Rutgers so I was in the minority age wise there). The environment was electric and that was without the Sconnie band that had been suspended for misbehavior the prior week @ Michigan. Exciting game (OSU won in the final minute on a Pryor TD run), but was second to my experience vs Louisville in 2006.
 

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Having parking decks and removing parking lots would allow you to have fields of grass to tailgate on. I'm not getting how having parking decks instead of parking lots would cut into tailgating as long as you had a way to move your tailgating stuff from your car to the tailgating area. Also nothing's stopping you from parking directly on the grass areas that replace the parking lots. Not getting what this angst is about tbh.

Are you proposing the installation of parking decks to replace existing expansive surface lots in the vicinity of, say, the sprawling engineering quad, relatively tall C.O.R.E./Hill Center/Pharmacy buildings, or perhaps even the RAC? I can agree with the first two as a more efficient use of valuable campus space and beneficial to faculty/staff, student commuter, and even athletics parking alike. The university could even market such a deck on Busch as pre paid parking for fans who plan to attend the game only and wish to park closer to HPSS than the RAC/College Avenue, as well as those who don't plan to tailgate out of their own vehicles. A parking deck near the RAC might also be possible well into the future (I'd argue that the College Avenue and Busch campuses would need to be jam-packed, and Livingston running out of parking space for daily use as well for that idea to even be considered), but the more recent solar canopy installation in the adjacent gameday lot makes that unlikely for the foreseeable future.

However, prime tailgating lots and/or open grass space near the stadium, including the Scarlet, Green, Yellow, and Blue Lots, are not going to be replaced by parking decks. Hopefully ever.
 

ArminRU

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Regarding your comments about the team having no fire. I agree and think it's a big reflection of the coach...He just can't rally the troops....it's not in his personality. Being nice doesn't fire up a team.
 
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Madison is constantly rated as one of the best cities to live in (even with its winters!), in part because of State Street. Comparing it to Easton Ave is just foolish. George Street could be like a smaller State Street if New Brunswick expands downtown housing options.

I went to a Saturday night game at Camp Randall in 2008 versus Ohio State (Terrelle Pryor's freshman season) and sat in the student section (4 years after my grad school at Rutgers so I was in the minority age wise there). The environment was electric and that was without the Sconnie band that had been suspended for misbehavior the prior week @ Michigan. Exciting game (OSU won in the final minute on a Pryor TD run), but was second to my experience vs Louisville in 2006.
I was there on business a few years ago and loved the town.
 

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Regarding your comments about the team having no fire. I agree and think it's a big reflection of the coach...He just can't rally the troops....it's not in his personality. Being nice doesn't fire up a team.

Essentially his recruiting problem, too, and a few of us have been saying it for a while now. He simply isn't a "closer," so no matter how much teenagers say they "love him," same with the parents and coaches, he doesn't have that "it" factor either on, or off, the field. Gotta have one or the other, just got to, unless you're at a 'Bama, OSU, USC, etc..
 
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mdk02

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A bit of a contradiction. If RU needs more explosive WRs and TEs then how can you say Laviano is not the answer? You don't want to throw outside if the press coverage has the receivers blanketed .
 

Blitz8RU

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A bit of a contradiction. If RU needs more explosive WRs and TEs then how can you say Laviano is not the answer? You don't want to throw outside if the press coverage has the receivers blanketed .

There is no contradiction. This is not a zero sum problem. The problem is multi-faceted. Receivers are struggling to get open and the QB is not capable of putting it on the outside shoulder quickly enough before the safety help gets there. Fix one of them and you increase the probability of completions. We can't change the receivers right now (we don't have anyone else) but we can get a QB in there (Rettig) that CAN throw it consistently to the outside shoulder while getting it there quickly enough to split the CB and safety.
 

Blitz8RU

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Don't worry about parking garages. That will only happen if we expand the stadium again. There won't be a need to do that in our lifetimes.

BTW guys. The parking decks I was refering to in the OP was for the entire rutgers NB campus (cook, douglas, college ave, busch , Livingston) not just for the lots used for tailgating (I wasn't even thinking about that when I made the comment). What's wrong with either taking your stuff from your car to the tailgating area or just driving up to the tailgating grass area and setup there for the 6 to 7 times a year tailgating occurs for FB? All i'm asking for is a greening of all parking lots and to put up parking decks with appropriate camouflage facades for the daily parking traffic. People tailgate on grassy areas like golf courses routinely around the country. I don't see what the problem is with that other than maybe some reseeding of grass after the FB season.
 

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Blitz, great summation! Really enjoyed the read! The amazing thing about this particular post, was the people that responded to it, they(other than NUTS, and a few others) were more concerned about your "opinion" regarding parking decks, then the great analysis of Wisconsin football! Wow!
Say's quite a bit about the prima donas, we call Rutgers Alumnus.

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PiscatawayMike

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Freak Fest was a people watchers' paradise on Saturday night. Amazing how many people wore costumes. Police estimated the crowd at 34,000. State Street and Easton Ave. have as much in common as Carrie Underwood and Ruth Buzzi. State Street (and the roads that lead into it) is loaded with great restaurants, bars, shops, and theaters.

On Friday night, I attended the Wisconsin-Arizona State hockey game at Kohl Center (great facility). Spoke with several locals. Had a blast.

On Sunday, I had the best brunch of I've ever had in my life at a place called The Old Fashioned, across the street from the capitol.

Looking forward to going back in 2018.

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Freak Fest was a people watchers' paradise on Saturday night. Amazing how many people wore costumes. Police estimated the crowd at 34,000. State Street and Easton Ave. have as much in common as Carrie Underwood and Ruth Buzzi. State Street (and the roads that lead into it) is loaded with great restaurants, bars, shops, and theaters.

On Friday night, I attended the Wisconsin-Arizona State hockey game at Kohl Center (great facility). Spoke with several locals. Had a blast.

On Sunday, I had the best brunch of I've ever had in my life at a place called The Old Fashioned, across the street from the capitol.

Looking forward to going back in 2018.

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Glad you had a good time - I was worried that the weather and the general lack of buzz for this game would give some visitors a distorted view (and it appears that worry was justified, if the OP is typical). You can go in with "ok, impress me" attitude or you can have an open mind and just let it come to you - you seem to be the latter and IMO, it's a more enjoyable way to go through life.

Re: hockey - does RU have any thoughts about fielding a D1 team? There is a Big Ten league with 6 teams (PSU, OSU, Mich, MSU, UW, and MN) that's only a couple years old. UW has a rich tradition in hockey (7 championships) but has fallen on hard times the last couple of years - it's a big revenue sport for us, so the natives are getting a bit restless, as you no doubt heard from the locals.
 

Blitz8RU

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Re: hockey - does RU have any thoughts about fielding a D1 team? There is a Big Ten league with 6 teams (PSU, OSU, Mich, MSU, UW, and MN) that's only a couple years old. UW has a rich tradition in hockey (7 championships) but has fallen on hard times the last couple of years - it's a big revenue sport for us, so the natives are getting a bit restless, as you no doubt heard from the locals.

Dude... we can't even fund FB and Basketball or any of our olympic sports. Hockey is out of the question unless we dig up $200 mill for a men's and women's hockey team.
 

RutgersRaRa

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Financially a parking deck makes zero sense and would get no use other than 6 games a year.

We could play games the rest of the time and bond as a people.
 

BadgerInSpartyland

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Dude... we can't even fund FB and Basketball or any of our olympic sports. Hockey is out of the question unless we dig up $200 mill for a men's and women's hockey team.

Fair enough. Just so you know, PSU - the newest entrant into D1 - now has hockey as their #2 revenue sport, ahead of basketball. Now, they did get a rich donor to build them their arena and their hoops program is a bit pathetic, but the point is that there's moneymaking potential (unlike gymnastics or crew or track). UW certainly counts on that revenue to subsidize other sports