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Decent list.. MA will continue to be at 1 IF 4 don’t get hurt.. if they lose him they drop big time in my opinion! 2-4 I’m cool with could change week to week! Now 5 should definitely be EW a better team to me then Starmount! EW also played the bears to a much better game. Had over 200 yards of offense on a wet field. Not to mention Starmount had -1 rushing against that bear defense! I like the list!
 

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1. ER
2. STM
3. MA
4. MH
5. Murphy/Robbinsville

My top 5. If MH season is over could possibly slide East Wilkes in somewhere. I may be wrong but I don't think the STM and EW game will be close. I haven't seen EW play but in order to have a chance at Starmount you will have to have an excellent pass rush. I think the Mt Airy/EW game was more a product of EW game plan than anything else. Not taking anything away from their skill or toughness that they showed. Coach Walker was able to watch the Starmount and Mt Airy game and saw the problem with the Starmount offensive game plan and based on what I see in the highlights it looks like he had the best plan. I believe had Starmount had that plan they would've won their game against Mt Airy. Just my opinion
 

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1. ER
2. STM
3. MA
4. MH
5. Murphy/Robbinsville

My top 5. If MH season is over could possibly slide East Wilkes in somewhere. I may be wrong but I don't think the STM and EW game will be close. I haven't seen EW play but in order to have a chance at Starmount you will have to have an excellent pass rush. I think the Mt Airy/EW game was more a product of EW game plan than anything else. Not taking anything away from their skill or toughness that they showed. Coach Walker was able to watch the Starmount and Mt Airy game and saw the problem with the Starmount offensive game plan and based on what I see in the highlights it looks like he had the best plan. I believe had Starmount had that plan they would've won their game against Mt Airy. Just my opinion
How is STM above MA? Bears beat them in the Rams house and MA played like ****! MA is top dog until you beat them period! EW has a good football team! MA held STM to 130yards and 60 of that was on one pass play first play on blown coverage. Would been worse if not for prevent D! Go look at RPI TODAY!
 

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How is STM above MA? Bears beat them in the Rams house and MA played like ****! MA is top dog until you beat them period! EW has a good football team! MA held STM to 130yards and 60 of that was on one pass play first play on blown coverage. Would been worse if not for prevent D! Go look at RPI TODAY!
It was just my opinion on what I see with the teams. I haven't seen ER play in person just basing off previous years team, schedule and history with a little bit of film. My projection was based more on playoffs and final prediction. I agree that MA should be above STM until they are beaten. I also think that Mt Airy and Starmount game would be a close one even if both teams improve on offense. Very little room for error either way.

Do you not think that Starmount could run on Mt Airy at least as good as EW?
 
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It was just my opinion on what I see with the teams. I haven't seen ER play in person just basing off previous years team, schedule and history with a little bit of film. My projection was based more on playoffs and final prediction. I agree that MA should be above STM until they are beaten. I also think that Mt Airy and Starmount game would be a close one even if both teams improve on offense. Very little room for error either way.

Do you not think that Starmount could run on Mt Airy at least as good as EW?
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Total Yards​

#Athlete NameRushPassRecTotal
Team Totals-1146146145
1Luke Collins (Sr)-14146132
4Colton Allen (Sr)1313
5Kinston Crater (Sr)92332
6LT Adams (Sr)5252
7Aamir Adams (Jr)1212
11KJ Allen (Sr)2525
16Jymir Billips (Jr)42125
-1 rushing against MA so no STM cant run on MA!
 
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Think without looking through the lens of a Mt Airy fan on this. Looking at the players there is NO way in this world that they couldn't run the ball.

That's why I said the game plan wasn't correct. You're correct they most likely didn't think they could based on the previous year. There's more to it than that. They also didn't think the 2 DE's would be able to put as much pressure on the QB. Remember what I posted before. The OC came from Arena Football. I can't speak for him but I would hope that he realizes now what kind of game plan he should've planned for. In a defensive game like that pounding the ball in, grinding it out is what's needed. Not the big play passes every possession. It wears the opposing defense down, reduces their time of possession and chance to score. Still implement some passing but pound the ball in the heart of their defense. Test their endurance. If I was betting I would put a $1k that they can run the ball on them. EW line isn't as big as Starmount. I know that size isn't everything but Starmount has about 5 different guys that can run the ball each with their own strengths. QB couldn't run because can't risk injury in the regular season. In the playoffs he probably would.

All of this is dependent on what the OC sets up for Starmount. Single back just doesn't cut it every play.
 
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Think without looking through the lens of a Mt Airy fan on this. Looking at the players there is NO way in this world that they couldn't run the ball.

That's why I said the game plan wasn't correct. You're correct they most likely didn't think they could based on the previous year. There's more to it than that. They also didn't think the 2 DE's would be able to put as much pressure on the QB. Remember what I posted before. The OC came from Arena Football. I can't speak for him but I would hope that he realizes now what kind of game plan he should've planned for. In a defensive game like that pounding the ball in, grinding it out is what's needed. Not the big play passes every possession. It wears the opposing defense down, reduces their time of possession and chance to score. Still implement some passing but pound the ball in the heart of their defense. Test their endurance. If I was betting I would put a $1k that they can run the ball on them. EW line isn't as big as Starmount. I know that size isn't everything but Starmount has about 5 different guys that can run the ball each with their own strengths. QB couldn't run because can't risk injury in the regular season. In the playoffs he probably would.

All of this is dependent on what the OC sets up for Starmount. Single back just doesn't cut it every play.
130 total yards you would think they would tried something different! Hmmm.
 

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Think without looking through the lens of a Mt Airy fan on this. Looking at the players there is NO way in this world that they couldn't run the ball.

That's why I said the game plan wasn't correct. You're correct they most likely didn't think they could based on the previous year. There's more to it than that. They also didn't think the 2 DE's would be able to put as much pressure on the QB. Remember what I posted before. The OC came from Arena Football. I can't speak for him but I would hope that he realizes now what kind of game plan he should've planned for. In a defensive game like that pounding the ball in, grinding it out is what's needed. Not the big play passes every possession. It wears the opposing defense down, reduces their time of possession and chance to score. Still implement some passing but pound the ball in the heart of their defense. Test their endurance. If I was betting I would put a $1k that they can run the ball on them. EW line isn't as big as Starmount. I know that size isn't everything but Starmount has about 5 different guys that can run the ball each with their own strengths. QB couldn't run because can't risk injury in the regular season. In the playoffs he probably would.

All of this is dependent on what the OC sets up for Starmount. Single back just doesn't cut it every play.
I mean MA in 6 games did give up 34 yards rushing a game so yeah Starmount prob could have run on the Bears! SMH!!!
 

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130 total yards you would think they would tried something different! Hmmm.
I agree. We're all hoping for some different looks in the running game instead of falling in love with the pass. Got to be able to adjust to what the opponent is giving you. Granted Starmount hasn't had to really run the ball. They may not have to really rely on it until they play Mt Airy or Eastern Randolph but they need to be ready when that time comes. Not sure that anyone has a Clabo and Joyce to put that much pressure on a QB. High school QB in 1A not used to that kind of pressure in the pocket. Learning experience for him and HOPEFULLY the OC.
 

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I mean MA in 6 games did give up 34 yards rushing a game so yeah Starmount prob could have run on the Bears! SMH!!!
I'm not talking about anyone else but comparing EW and Starmount. How many yards did EW have on them?
 

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If I'm wrong on the EW and Starmount game I will gladly admit it and I certainly could be. Weather can be a huge factor especially for Starmount and passing.

You put Murphy past Starmount in your latest poll and Heritage past ER. Starmount won their game 65-0 and Heritage didn't play, ER won like 40 something to nothing. Trying to understand those changes
 

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1. ER
2. STM
3. MA
4. MH
5. Murphy/Robbinsville

My top 5. If MH season is over could possibly slide East Wilkes in somewhere. I may be wrong but I don't think the STM and EW game will be close. I haven't seen EW play but in order to have a chance at Starmount you will have to have an excellent pass rush. I think the Mt Airy/EW game was more a product of EW game plan than anything else. Not taking anything away from their skill or toughness that they showed. Coach Walker was able to watch the Starmount and Mt Airy game and saw the problem with the Starmount offensive game plan and based on what I see in the highlights it looks like he had the best plan. I believe had Starmount had that plan they would've won their game against Mt Airy. Just my opinion

This EW/Starmount game could very well be a classic or it could easily be a blowout (im not sure how good we will defend the pass). But with all due respect, you're saying EW played so good against MA because of the game plan going in, do you not think there will be a game plan going into the Starmount game as well?
 
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This EW/Starmount game could very well be a classic or it could easily be a blowout (im not sure how good we will defend the pass). But with all due respect, you're saying EW played so good against MA because of the game plan going in, do you not think there will be a game plan going into the Starmount game as well?
EW matched MA physical play!
 

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This EW/Starmount game could very well be a classic or it could easily be a blowout (im not sure how good we will defend the pass). But with all due respect, you're saying EW played so good against MA because of the game plan going in, do you not think there will be a game plan going into the Starmount game as well?
Yes I think they will. I love Coach Walker and know he will have those boys ready to play. I just think it's harder to game plan against multiple weapons in the pass game than to focus on one running back. I think the key for East defense will be the pass rush in my opinion. I think East will have a similar game plan offensively as they did against Mt Airy. Starmount keys will be pass blocking on offense, balance with offense as well. Would be a good time to implement some new looks with the run game. Defensively Starmount will have to watch for the pass. Looked like East did a good job mixing it up against Mt Airy.
 
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I agree. We're all hoping for some different looks in the running game instead of falling in love with the pass. Got to be able to adjust to what the opponent is giving you. Granted Starmount hasn't had to really run the ball. They may not have to really rely on it until they play Mt Airy or Eastern Randolph but they need to be ready when that time comes. Not sure that anyone has a Clabo and Joyce to put that much pressure on a QB. High school QB in 1A not used to that kind of pressure in the pocket. Learning experience for him and HOPEFULLY the OC.
I hear all this talk about running against MA, well you had as many athletes as Tarboro last year and the same result happened trying to run the ball. Last years defense had different players and were amazing but all we have heard all year is how much better Starmount is this year and how they were gonna run it on us with that big line they have and -1 yard is all you could do. Other than the first long pass for a TD and then us playing prevent the last 2 minutes of game you all did absolutely nothing against us. And watch your knees when you play EW is all I am gonna say, bad to have to resort to that. We look forward to you trying to run on us IF we see you again.
 

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Oh, the irony of this post!!!!!!! Last year you stated the the RPI was garbage, useless because Robbinsville was #1. The system had to change, it was ridiculous. Now you using it to support your views. What happened to bring about this 180? LMAO.
BC last year it was clear cut MA was the true #1 in State! I don't like the RPI bc just bc a teams conference or non conference schedule is down hurts them in thes RPI rankings. This year MA schedule may actually help them be the #1 seed even though they could be a true #2 or #3. No Irony here y'all read into it how you want. I still hate the RPI in its format. Robb record is not good this year but RPI could help them. Just saying it works both ways.
 

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I hear all this talk about running against MA, well you had as many athletes as Tarboro last year and the same result happened trying to run the ball. Last years defense had different players and were amazing but all we have heard all year is how much better Starmount is this year and how they were gonna run it on us with that big line they have and -1 yard is all you could do. Other than the first long pass for a TD and then us playing prevent the last 2 minutes of game you all did absolutely nothing against us. And watch your knees when you play EW is all I am gonna say, bad to have to resort to that. We look forward to you trying to run on us IF we see you again.
Watch your knees? This has already been discussed on another thread. If we wanted to we could watch play by play in slow speed and watch all the penalties and stuff that wasn't called against both teams. Or the end of the game gestures your star running back did to the EW stands. How about keeping it classy and saying heck of a game.
 

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Watch your knees? This has already been discussed on another thread. If we wanted to we could watch play by play in slow speed and watch all the penalties and stuff that wasn't called against both teams. Or the end of the game gestures your star running back did to the EW stands. How about keeping it classy and saying heck of a game.
TBH we did watch and slow film down and EW went after MA kids knees several times!