My way-too-early season prediction

18IsTheMan

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The guy that created this thread predicted 4 wins last season and I think downplaying Sellers wins against 4 ranked teams to end the season highlights what I’ve seen from him since I’ve been on this message board lol
You have obviously done your research. I have no idea what I predicted for last season (though I was not alone in predicting a poor season, particularly on the heels of ODU game). Do you have a link to my prediction?
 

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Sellers was running wild on Clemson before that play. Clemson was bringing the house a lot and it created holes for Sellers. I’m not sure how a QB that broke almost 20 tackles and ran for 166 is labeled as a miracle. The turnover battle was even, so I’m not sure why that point was added? They were only favorites because they were home and both teams made plays. The team with the better player won.

So, his actions were "highly improbable and extraordinary and bringing very welcome consequences".

Once again, a poster is arguing that Sellers's play was not extraordinary by pointing out how extraordinary it was.
 

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You have obviously done your research. I have no idea what I predicted for last season (though I was not alone in predicting a poor season, particularly on the heels of ODU game). Do you have a link to my prediction?
I just remembered having these talks with you last season. I think the points you made about Sellers are weird. What QB in the nation don’t need to approve? You downplayed his last 6 games like Vandy wasn’t a top 25 team when we faced them? If he doesn’t have a case to be a Heisman favorite then who does? With him needing to improve as a passer, the SEC coaches voted for him to be an all SEC QB his first year starting so he’s clearly doing something right.
 

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So, his actions were "highly improbable and extraordinary and bringing very welcome consequences".

Once again, a poster is arguing that Sellers's play was not extraordinary by pointing out how extraordinary it was.
You’re arguing that his play at Clemson was unlikely and that’s not true. It doesn’t matter how you spend it, the game wasn’t a miracle. That wasn’t his first 100 yard rushing game in a season and it wasn’t the first game where he broke a lot of tackles [Texas A&M]. The only difference in the Clemson game, compared to other games was that they sent the house and left a spy for a lot of passing situations and he did a good job at finding the open lanes. Plays aren’t called miracles when it’s been made by that player over a course of a season. Also pointing out the TOs being a reason it was a miracle when the TO battle was even doesn’t help your case.
 

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You’re arguing that his play at Clemson was unlikely and that’s not true. It doesn’t matter how you spend it, the game wasn’t a miracle. That wasn’t his first 100 yard rushing game in a season and it wasn’t the first game where he broke a lot of tackles [Texas A&M]. The only difference in the Clemson game, compared to other games was that they sent the house and left a spy for a lot of passing situations and he did a good job at finding the open lanes. Plays aren’t called miracles when it’s been made by that player over a course of a season. Also pointing out the TOs being a reason it was a miracle when the TO battle was even doesn’t help your case.

Highly improbable or extraordinary were the words.

You're arguing that some amazing play that had people calling him Superman was just bland and normal. I don't buy that.

Heck, in the next post you're arguing that he should be a Heisman candidate, while in this post arguing that he's not doing anything special.
 

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I think a link would be a bit better of an argument.
I feel like you guys don’t keep up with the actual roster until game day or just miserable fans. I don’t think I’ve seen a positive post about anything that have to do with the football team. Anybody that thought we would win 8 or more games last season was met with negativity from you two. lol I’ve probably had more wrong predictions than you guys though because I’m more optimistic as a fan.
 

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18IsTheMan

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I feel like you guys don’t keep up with the actual roster until game day or just miserable fans. I don’t think I’ve seen a positive post about anything that have to do with the football team. Anybody that thought we would win 8 or more games last season was met with negativity from you two. lol I’ve probably had more wrong predictions than you guys though because I’m more optimistic as a fan.
So I didn't predict a 4-win season.
 
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So I didn't predict a 4-win season.

You were pretty negative in the offseason, and it continued during the season, but its your opinion, and this is a board, I dont know why you want to take it back now?

You seemed to think we would win 4-5 games and noted that earlier prediction yourself below on 11/7 after the Tex AM win.

I predicted 4-5 wins. And that seemed pretty solid after Game 1, by anyone's estimation. That didn't change much until the OU game. After that game, 6 wins seemed within reach. Now 8-9 wins seems within reach.

If we can beat Vandy, I like our momentum going into the home stretch. Just can't afford a misstep in this game.


You mocked Maccmaine for saying we would win 7 or more on June 24th

We had a 10 win type roster in 2022 but was predicted to win 6 and only won 8. I believe our roster is better than the predicted total wins. It’s no team on our schedule I would go in the game day thinking we won’t have a chance. These teams aren’t head and shoulders better than us. Take to account the injuries aspect as well. I see 7 or more wins. Just my opinion.
This must be sarcasm


By Oct 7th we had 3 wins and you said, we would not win 6, that was with 3 games spotted, LOL
Given our offensive showing in 3 of 5 games this year, do we have a realistic path to 6 wins? We need three wins from: Bama, OU, Mizzou, A&M, Wofford, Vandy, Clemson. Conventional wisdom entering the season had us with wins over Vandy and Wofford. The Vandy game is, at best, in the tossup category for us now. That puts us at 4 wins needing 2 more from that list (minus Wofford).

I just can't see it. This team looks very uninspired. We play some good defense, but also seem to shoot ourselves in the foot on defense as well (e.g. four offsides on hard counts). Offensively, we are a total mess with no discernible strength or identity or playmaker.
 
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I don't disagree with any of that, but with Sellers getting Heisman hype from outside sources and many pundits penciling us in as strong playoff contenders, 8-4 would be seen as a massive disappointment by those on the outside.
Not sure where ''those on the outside'' are getting their hype for this team. Much replacement is needed from a very over-achieving mixed bag of players melding together to make something happen. Sellers can't do it alone and will need lots of help from a whole new group of teammates.
 
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You were pretty negative in the offseason, and it continued during the season, but its your opinion, and this is a board, I dont know why you want to take it back now?

You seemed to think we would win 4-5 games and noted it below on 11/7




You mocked Maccmaine for saying we would win 7 or more on June 24th





By Oct 7th we had 3 wins and you said, we would not win 6, that was with 3 games spotted, LOL
I just don’t understand how you can be a fan like this.
You were pretty negative in the offseason, and it continued during the season, but its your opinion, and this is a board, I dont know why you want to take it back now?

You seemed to think we would win 4-5 games and noted that earlier prediction yourself below on 11/7 after the Tex AM win.




You mocked Maccmaine for saying we would win 7 or more on June 24th





By Oct 7th we had 3 wins and you said, we would not win 6, that was with 3 games spotted, LOL
It have to be tiring to be this way with a team you root for. I have a Clemson buddy and he’s not even this negative about SC.
 

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Not sure where ''those on the outside'' are getting their hype for this team. Much replacement is needed from a very over-achieving mixed bag of players melding together to make something happen. Sellers can't do it alone and will need lots of help from a whole new group of teammates.
It's all about creating narratives. If we don't live up to their expectations, then they can write about how disappointing our season was.
 

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I feel like you guys don’t keep up with the actual roster until game day or just miserable fans. I don’t think I’ve seen a positive post about anything that have to do with the football team. Anybody that thought we would win 8 or more games last season was met with negativity from you two. lol I’ve probably had more wrong predictions than you guys though because I’m more optimistic as a fan.

So, I don't see the first sentence as pertinent at all, especially given your last sentence.

If you don't like the level of positivity from a fan, but then say they are probably closer to right than you, is the issue really their level of positivity, or them being right more often?

I will freely admit I actively try to suppress in myself the "we will win 10 games this year" feeling we all get in summer. I've been a fan too long to keep setting myself up for that disappointment.
 
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He already admitted to having a poor prediction from last season. I didn’t comment to have an actual argument though. Lol

I would have just stuck with "poor prediction" then. Calling out a specific number just let's him call you on it when he didn't say it.
 
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It's all about creating narratives. If we don't live up to their expectations, then they can write about how disappointing our season was.

Narratives to generate clicks, and an audience who's knowledge of our team was "oh yeah, I remember that guy running around a lot and making plays".

By mid-season, they could be on to the next hype machine without a second thought.

And the Parrot is right. Sellers can't do it alone. Well need to replace a lot of pieces on offense, and that's before we talk about replacing that defense who set up the offense all year long.
 
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It's all about creating narratives. If we don't live up to their expectations, then they can write about how disappointing our season was.
Yep, that's a real job. Write about your predictions and later write about those predictions being right or wrong without any fault of your own and whose fault it really was. 🤷‍♂️
 
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I would have just stuck with "poor prediction" then. Calling out a specific number just let's him call you on it when he didn't say it.
Idk man, if you scroll up you’ll see that it’s proof that he said we will win 4-5 games last season. It was quoted by @Gradstudent. So no, I didn’t have to stick with “poor prediction” because he clearly said 4-5 on more than one post. Thanks for the advice tho.
 

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I always predict 6-6, hope for a bowl every year. Three non conference wins and three in conference. Is it low expectations? Yep.
 
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Idk man, if you scroll up you’ll see that it’s proof that he said we will win 4-5 games last season. It was quoted by @Gradstudent. So no, I didn’t have to stick with “poor prediction” because he clearly said 4-5 on more than one post. Thanks for the advice tho.

So he said 4-5, not 4?
 

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So he said 4-5, not 4?

From the thread Dec 13th Thread, 2024 Football Schedule

I see 4 wins. Hope to all hope that I’m wrong
There he said it, So Lurker

 

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From the thread Dec 13th Thread, 2024 Football Schedule


There he said it, So Lurker

Smoking gun...you got me!

A hot take after my first glance at our brutal schedule less than 3 weeks after finishing a very disappointing season.

Still, not a prediction.
 

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From the thread Dec 13th Thread, 2024 Football Schedule


There he said it, So Lurker


Ah yes, he said 4 wins back in December the year before.

Then said 4-5, then 6, basically raising it as the season got closer. But we only remember one of those. Gotcha.
 

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Ah yes, he said 4 wins back in December the year before.

Then said 4-5, then 6, basically raising it as the season got closer. But we only remember one of those. Gotcha.
How many times do you need to see evidence of him saying 4 wins before you actually believe that he said it? I don’t get it.
 

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Ah yes, he said 4 wins back in December the year before.

Then said 4-5, then 6, basically raising it as the season got closer. But we only remember one of those. Gotcha.
You left out the time when he moved to less then 4 wins on 8/31/24

4 wins ain't happening this year. We may lose this one and Vandy is much better than us.

If we lose this game, seriously fire him tonight.

 

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How many times do you need to see evidence of him saying 4 wins before you actually believe that he said it? I don’t get it.

How many times do you have to post the subsequent posts to see he changed that "prediction"? I don't get it.
 

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So, if you guys want a definitive prediction, not venting, that you can absolutely hold someone to, I'll refer you my season prediction:

I spent a lot of thought on this. I called some friends and ran some scenarios on Madden. Here is my prediction for this year.

QB: sellers will take another step forward and be a legitimate Heisman candidate. Or he may have a sophomore slump.

O line: This is the year "the wall" finally comes to fruition. We have assembled guys who will finally play as a top half SEC squad. Or it will be another year of wondering why we can't have an OL like any average SEC team.

Offense in general: Wit the losses on defense, we will need to outscore opponents. This offense will definitely light up the scoreboard. Or it'll struggle.

Defense: This is a huge question mark. We replace so many starters and contributors. Our portal ranked high, so I see this defense being AT LEAST as good as last years. Playoff worthy, possible final 4 or title game level.

Or we'll take a huge step back after losing all that talent.

Overall record:
With our overpowering Offense and smothering defense, 11 wins is within shot. We should seriously start talking SEC title. Or we could win 4 games. I am definitely confident that we'll end up between 4 and 11 wins this year.

Mark it down. And i will expect kudos and pats on the back for being right. And I will be right. Because i wrote a long winded post.
 
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Who knew the defense was going to be that good last season? From barely beating ODU to great wins against A&M, Mizzou, and Clemson. That being said, it took way too long to put away Wofford and the Bowl loss was a disappointment.
 

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The defense will be a question mark. We lost a lot and only did ok at addressing it. We added a lot of talent at WR but they are all young and untested. Only need one or 2 at the most to be productive to have a chance on offense. Then there’s the running game. I think we could be ok there but yet to be seen. The offense will have to carry more of the load this year for us to be as good as last year. Sellers will have to be special even though defenses will be more aware of how to plan for him. OC has a lot on his shoulders this year.
 

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Ah yes, he said 4 wins back in December the year before.

Then said 4-5, then 6, basically raising it as the season got closer. But we only remember one of those. Gotcha.
Anyone who pays attention to my posts (which up until these yahoos started digging through the archives, I would have assumed is nobody) knows my "predictions" all over the place and are usually very reactive. After the ODU game I was probably "predicting" a 3-win season.

Even so, I'm not sure I see why it matters. Does being a fan mean you have to think you're going to win the national title every year? If I say we're going to have 5 wins and someone else says 7, that means their a better fan because they think we'll win 2 more games?

Fan predictions are not meaningful or important.
 

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But some (one) are taking it waaaaaaay too seriously. As if a fan's season prediction is a reflection on their character.

I sometimes do too. Not the "we're never going to win a game" type posting after a loss, but the normal stuff.

I always said we should have a sticky post at the top of the board for predictions. It'd be nice to reference when people told you knew all along we were winning or losing X number of games.