Nascar is teetering on the brink
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Meanwhile, the most unlikeable loathsome jackass jerk in ALL of sports - Kurt Busch - is now without a ride for 2018
Maybe I wasn't clear in my first post meeks; I despise golf, lol. If I had to pick, I'd watch a race, but to me they're both boring.
I love college football and college hoops, they're the best things about fall and winter.
Figure Eight racing is just a big game of chicken.
Loved all kinds of racing from about 1988-199? - NASCAR, Indy, F1, dirt track, drag, bikes, boats... talked to a couple car owners about what it would take to bring a major speedway to Kentucky (basically all said it would never happen.) Went to Atlanta, Charlotte, Mid-Ohio, Indy - great seats going into turn 1 for Rick Mears 4th win. Some of the best racing I ever saw was outlaw Sprints on dirt - 800 bhp on 1/3 mile dirt - the hotshot drivers would wheelie the entire straights and just drop The front wheels long enough to slide the turn then punch the throttle
Then I got married and had kids and my time and interest both kind of dwindled away
Loved all kinds of racing from about 1988-199? - NASCAR, Indy, F1, dirt track, drag, bikes, boats... talked to a couple car owners about what it would take to bring a major speedway to Kentucky (basically all said it would never happen.) Went to Atlanta, Charlotte, Mid-Ohio, Indy - great seats going into turn 1 for Rick Mears 4th win. Some of the best racing I ever saw was outlaw Sprints on dirt - 800 bhp on 1/3 mile dirt - the hotshot drivers would wheelie the entire straights and just drop The front wheels long enough to slide the turn then punch the throttle
Then I got married and had kids and my time and interest both kind of dwindled away
But anyway - live racing is pretty awesome, or I assume it still is. No way to explain the sensation of 40 stock cars running past in at 200 mph - literally sucks anything not held down into the catch fence. Or Indy cars so fast you can't see them if you try to watch a fixed point. Crashes are awesome in their energy and destructiveness but fortunately (yes) usually everyone walks away which is also amazing.
On TV - the racing itself might be worth 15 minutes of watching and the real reasons to watch are personalities and stories.
On TV - the racing itself might be worth 15 minutes of watching and the real reasons to watch are personalities and stories.
They abandoned the southern tracks and went to Kansas, Kansas of all places, to the north, Nevada,etc. They abandoned their base.
Dem Yanks don't understand racin. Why did they go and build tracks for them Yanks and Californians?
Always been around racing of some sort. My brother raced the local dirt tracks back in the late 60's and 70's. I tagged along and learned to work on cars. The Addington boys ran a local track around Paintsville before they made their fortune in the coal business. I've done a lot of drag racing at the local tracks, quit around 2007, got to expensive versus your chances of winning much money.
Like Meeks said, NASCAR has got to expensive to take a family to. They do stupid stuff to save teams money. GD if you're worried about money, you wouldn't be in NASCAR. I thought the stages would be good, keep everyone racing the whole race, especially at Daytona and Taledega, but no, the dumb f..ks throw a caution at the end of the stages, stupid.
Anyway, go Kyle, and the Cats.
Like Meeks said, NASCAR has got to expensive to take a family to. They do stupid stuff to save teams money. GD if you're worried about money, you wouldn't be in NASCAR. I thought the stages would be good, keep everyone racing the whole race, especially at Daytona and Taledega, but no, the dumb f..ks throw a caution at the end of the stages, stupid.
Anyway, go Kyle, and the Cats.
If they want to save teams money shorten the races, quit having 2 days worth of practice sessions and move it all to the same day. Have a practice, qualifying and race all the same day. It would limit the number of days a team has to put up 50-75 guys in motels and feed them, it would save on the number of tires and gas they use in a weekend and if they can't adjust the car during a 500 mile race they don't deserve to win anyway.
^ Great idea. I've always wanted to see NASCAR wait until the day of the race, then flip a coin to see which direction they race.
Why have a 90 minute practice session on Friday, followed by qualifying a couple of hours later, then a 60 minute practice session on Saturday and then race on Sunday. Too much wasted time but I guess they have to give the drivers time to do all of the sponsor related stuff at each track.
Qualifying for Pocono was on Sunday morning and from what I saw after the race, the drivers liked it. They should do it far more often.
I can see dragging stuff out at Daytona because you have the excitement of the new season and the biggest race, but outside of that, they should compress the schedules to 2 days max.
They are having more night races and races with a 3:00 o'clock start time so it's totally feasible to have it all in one day. It would a lot less expense for fans not to have to pay for an overpriced motel room for 3-4 days.
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The day they had 50 Cent in the pits at Daytona that's when you knew it was over.
the Ford Motor Company started the demise back in 1983, or forced NASCAR to screw its own pooch.
the thunderbird released was soooo aerodynamically superior to ANYTHING gov't motors was producing. so much better that nascar allowed chivvy's to add a "fastback" rear window to the crappy chivvy's, and that was the start of nascar turning into IROC racing.
later on, the Taurus did the same thing and gave us what we have today; common car template.
the thunderbird released was soooo aerodynamically superior to ANYTHING gov't motors was producing. so much better that nascar allowed chivvy's to add a "fastback" rear window to the crappy chivvy's, and that was the start of nascar turning into IROC racing.
later on, the Taurus did the same thing and gave us what we have today; common car template.
Two things I don't like are blind brand loyalty and broad generalizations. That being said, Ford people are nuts.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/08/kev...car-growth-most-popular-driver-jimmie-johnson
I'm sure this will be a popular article among the Jr. haters here.
I agree Jr. has had a horrible year. But basically Harvick is saying that all his fans came from his Dad and he has not earned anything. It's not Jr's fault that people like and relate to him. Maybe Harvick should try to be more likable.
I wonder if Kevin will be mad next year when Chase Elliott takes over as the Most Popular Driver, thanks to his Dad's old fans.
I'm sure this will be a popular article among the Jr. haters here.
I agree Jr. has had a horrible year. But basically Harvick is saying that all his fans came from his Dad and he has not earned anything. It's not Jr's fault that people like and relate to him. Maybe Harvick should try to be more likable.
I wonder if Kevin will be mad next year when Chase Elliott takes over as the Most Popular Driver, thanks to his Dad's old fans.
There are a few really unlikable personalities in NASCAR but Harvick is near the top. I already didn't care for him but when he intentionally caused "The Big One" at Talladega a couple of years ago to secure his place in the next round of the playoffs I was done with him. And he really doesn't have any right to talk about Jr's fans coming from Dale Sr since most of his were due to him taking over the 3 car when Dale Sr died. The only difference is most left him and he only has a few that are still loyal to him.
Another week, another rule change. Unlimited restarts in overtime because it is what the fans want says NASCAR. After 3 hours I don't think the fans want to see another 15 restarts to settle a race. If NASCAR ever gets it right it is not very often.
Looking for somebody to blame for nascar's downfall is like trying to blame somebody for uk's season ticket sales. It's a national trend.
yeah, it's too bad the chivvy's got to reduce their roof height by 2 inches and add the rear sloped glass, rather than spend the money to develop aerodynamic vehicles. those chivvy's from the 80's and 90's were shoeboxes.