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It's about NASCAR trying to make it about being woke like everyone else.
So much for NASCAR being woke. ESPN doesn't even cover their results on the website's front page anymore. They do however have an article about Kyler Murray playing basketball, Deion Sanders being displeased with his defenses at Jackson State (thank you Undefeated), and Chloe Kim not feeling accepted for being Asian.

But the Blue Emu 500 at Martinsville. Get out of here with that crap. It was televised by ESPN's competitor, so they just aren't even going to cover that sh*t unless Bubba won.
 
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Great win by Bowman Sunday. Unfortunately Hamlin is dialed in and is going to win soon.

Could have won a lot of money betting on Elliott to be the last Hendrick Driver to win a race this year
 

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Yeah I am not sure if he looked in his mirror and thought that outside line was gaining on him faster than they were or if he got bad info from his spotter but had he stayed on the bottom he may have won it.
 
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Reddick made a big mistake on the last lap by not pushing the 21 down the backstretch. Instead, he pulled out to pass him and ended up ruining both of their shots at winning the race.

Some of these young guys have a lot to learn about plate racing. Making the pass on the driver in front of you isn't always the best option. Sometimes the better option is to push that guy in front of you to give yourself a better shot at winning.
 

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Reddick made a big mistake on the last lap by not pushing the 21 down the backstretch. Instead, he pulled out to pass him and ended up ruining both of their shots at winning the race.

Some of these young guys have a lot to learn about plate racing. Making the pass on the driver in front of you isn't always the best option. Sometimes the better option is to push that guy in front of you to give yourself a better shot at winning.
I hate plate "racing". Tape it & watch wrecks & last 5-10 laps. I tried to DVR it & for some reason it didn't take. Happened to catch last 12 laps then.
 

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There were a lot of cars in Larson’s way those last few laps. I thought he was going to catch Truex.
 

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The 48 with 2 wins already raises the question of if the team and HMS is just better this year or was Jimmie just slipping behind the wheel?
 

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The 48 with 2 wins already raises the question of if the team and HMS is just better this year or was Jimmie just slipping behind the wheel?

I think “old man time” was catching up to Jimmy, like it’s starting to catch up with Kevin Harvick & Kyle Bush (to a lesser exten)
 
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I think “old man time” was catching up to Jimmy, like it’s starting to catch up with Kevin Harvick & Kyle Bush (to a lesser exten)
Not that I blame him because priorities change for a lot of people when they have kids but Jimmie seemed to lose his fire after his daughters came along. He just seemed to be hesitant to drive the car on the edge of spinning out like he had up to that point. Again I am not saying I wouldn't have been the same way but when you climb in the race car and know you have little ones to return home to it had to be on his mind. I mean his legacy and financial situation at that time was cemented and he just seemed to be content to ride around those last couple of years. It may also just be burnout to the constant travel and obligations.
 

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Yeah, he lost some of it. I doubt he’ll stick with IndyCar for long. If I were him, I’d just chill out, count my money, bang my blonde wife, and enjoy life. Maybe do some announcing here and there.
 

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Hendrick was also streets behind on the intermediate tracks it felt like the last few years. They're completely dialed in across the board with zero weaknesses in tracks. Elliott has a high chance to get his first this weekend and wouldn't be surprised if all 4 Hendrick cars had multiple wins going into playoffs.

Bowman - 2 already
Byron - 11 straight Top 10s
Elliott - 6 Road Courses still to come on schedule
Larson - Most laps led this year, could conceivably have 4 or 5 wins already this year.
 

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Hendrick was also streets behind on the intermediate tracks it felt like the last few years. They're completely dialed in across the board with zero weaknesses in tracks. Elliott has a high chance to get his first this weekend and wouldn't be surprised if all 4 Hendrick cars had multiple wins going into playoffs.

Bowman - 2 already
Byron - 11 straight Top 10s
Elliott - 6 Road Courses still to come on schedule
Larson - Most laps led this year, could conceivably have 4 or 5 wins already this year.
I agree with everything you said. Hendrick had fallen behind and it was at the wrong time for Johnson as his career wound down. If they wouldn't have trailed SHR and Gibbs he could have probably gotten at least 3-5 wins over those last 2 1/2 years. Larson has been right on the edge of winning multiple races and you know stringing together all those top 10's Byron will win a couple before the playoffs begin.
 

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Should be an interesting race at COTA. I can't wait to see the cars on that track but at least they get practice this week.
 

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Just now getting around to posting about the race Sunday but boy was that a disappointment. I was really looking forward to COTA but that was a huge let down.
 

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Not that I blame him because priorities change for a lot of people when they have kids but Jimmie seemed to lose his fire after his daughters came along. He just seemed to be hesitant to drive the car on the edge of spinning out like he had up to that point. Again I am not saying I wouldn't have been the same way but when you climb in the race car and know you have little ones to return home to it had to be on his mind. I mean his legacy and financial situation at that time was cemented and he just seemed to be content to ride around those last couple of years. It may also just be burnout to the constant travel and obligations.
Agree about family distractions. More on your point, I do not think Kyle Bush has slipped any. He recently won the championship. He has been dealing with he and his wife Samantha trying to have another kid. He touched on it briefly in a interview and he said it was really taking a lot of focus from racing and the difficulties they had suffered.
 
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Larson's a good kid, happy for him, even if I am a Kyle Busch fan. The Toyota and Ford guys better get busy, they ain't got anything for those Hendrick cars.
 

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I wouldn't exactly called it dialed in, more like NASCAR letting HMS get a few extra horses under the hood, or little more dyno, or spoiler for better down force. No way ALL of the cars would be that stout. Just like JGR, one / two of the guys would not be as dominate as the best cars, but with HMS, all of the cars are fast as **ck. I know that share info, but you still have to build and tune the car. I am not saying, but I am saying.
 

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I wouldn't exactly called it dialed in, more like NASCAR letting HMS get a few extra horses under the hood, or little more dyno, or spoiler for better down force. No way ALL of the cars would be that stout. Just like JGR, one / two of the guys would not be as dominate as the best cars, but with HMS, all of the cars are fast as **ck. I know that share info, but you still have to build and tune the car. I am not saying, but I am saying.
Your comment reminds me of an interaction I had with Dale Jr on Twitter a few years ago. NASCAR had tweeted about him winning the July race at Daytona the next time they raced there after Dale Sr had passed. I commented about how NASCAR must have given him a bigger restrictor plate because in all of my years of watching racing I had never before or since witnessed a single car pull out of line and pass a line of cars that were drafting like he could. He tweeted me back and said they just had the right setup that day and there was no way NASCAR would risk it's reputation by giving him a bigger restrictor plate just for the feel good story of him winning that race. At the end of the conversation we still agreed to disagree. 😂
 

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Exactly. If he had the "right setup", I guess none of the other HMS could duplicate it. Also, he never duplicated that "right setup" ever again. HMMMM. They can say all they want, just like the NBA, NFL and other sports have had some very questionable results, especially the NBA with the draft lottery. Forgot what team, but they overcame long odds and got the #1 overall pick. Maybe the Knicks with Ewing ? It was pretty much proven that (back before the ping pong ball system they used envelopes with team logos inside), the Knicks envelope had been refrigerated making it cold, and even was creased or bent on the edges. The backup plan was in the evn that the envelope cooled during the wait. Ernst & Whinney was the accounting firm who over looked the lottery for Gulf & Western Industries making sure it was on the up and up, Well, guess who just happened to be the majority owner of the Knicks ? You guessed it, Gulf Industries. Nothing to see here. **** happens all the time.

Other shady dealings :

The owner for the Charlotte gets into legal trouble, moves team to New Orleans despite having some of the best attendance #s. He tried to sell the team, it fell thru. The NBA takes over the Hornets. Chris Paul demands a trade. Losing its only superstar, Stern vetos a trade to the Lakers, then Ok's one to cross town rival Clippers. So Stern helping New Orleans out for losing its only star, rigged the lottery for the Hornets with only a 13% chance of picking #1.. And guess who they selected, Anthony Davis

2016 Dikembe Mutombo makes a quickly deleted post on Twitter hours before the Lottery "congrats to Sixers for grabbing the number 1 overall pick."

03 Cleveland lands #1 and hometown hero Lebron James. Nothing really fishy here, BUT in later when Lebron left for Miami, not once, not twice, but three times Cleveland lands the #1 pick, all while never having the worst record. The year after Lebron left (2011 draft, with just a 2.8% chance (1-1,493 chance) they win the top pick. Then they win it again in 2013 (15% chance) and 2014 (1.7% chance). So 3 years out of 4 they get #1, and again in 2019 on a coin flip with Phoenix for the #2 worst record slot. 2 times after Lebron left, 1st to Miami and then to LA (2019) Cleveland lands the top pick, and never had the overall worst record and having the best % chance. HMMMMM.
 
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Not sure what Larson’s full strategy is but I think he stepped in it there not pitting under green.