Nate Ament

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Exactly. And further.. what about this 5mil a year we are saving by not having Cal, or worse having to do part of his buyout?

Imo that $5mil a year should go right towards NIL and improving the basketball program.

Now I know that can't happen for many reasons.. but man, if we could just take a few million of that, we could really set ourselves up.
I’m sure there are ways.. but yeah we just need to convince our big boosters that he is needed.
 
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SkyPrince1

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Ament or not, we need 8 total for next season
We have three in the fold.
Idk what the total price tag will be on 8 additions.
Oweh will get a bump.
Garrison, Perry, Noah and Chandler probably all stay the same.
I know we have 15 scholarships next season, I just think it will be hard to fill all those unless we take a flyer on an under the radar HS player
I could see Walker and Grant on scholly next season.
 
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DaDirtyLeb69

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Ament or not, we need 8 total for next season
We have three in the fold.
Idk what the total price tag will be on 8 additions.
Oweh will get a bump.
Garrison, Perry, Noah and Chandler probably all stay the same.
I know we have 15 scholarships next season, I just think it will be hard to fill all those unless we take a flyer on an under the radar HS player
I could see Walker and Grant on scholly next season.
Jasper, Lewis, Moreno, 3 Ky boys, Oweh, and garrisson. Potential for Almanor back. With that group I say you need a PG, wing scorer, another big, and another shooter
 

Broker

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Wilson was coming here until UNC opened the purse, too. That's the rumor, anyway.
Wilson was going to UNC with or without NIL. We did not get outbid and I don't think we would have gotten Wilson to come here or anywhere besides Duke regardless of Money offered. Most kids don't go to highest bidder that are high school recruits. Portal kids are a different breed, most of the portal kids are money hounds. Every time a kids chooses some school besides us does not mean they were bought. Do you actually think that every kid that chooses us is because we offered a bigger bag of money?
 

SkyPrince1

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Jasper, Lewis, Moreno, 3 Ky boys, Oweh, and garrisson. Potential for Almanor back. With that group I say you need a PG, wing scorer, another big, and another shooter
Yeah a starter level PG
Starter and back up PF
SF with length to compliment OO.
Athletic 2G to compete/ compliment(especially defensively) Jasper.
Perry and Noah will be our bench shooters.
 

SkyPrince1

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I really would love another year of Almanor, I hope he gets that’s extra year the ncaa is giving out
When does the portal open for spring?
You would think the NCAA will rule on the 5 year thing before then.
Coaches have to know what they're looking at.
 

BBallin23

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Yeah a starter level PG
Starter and back up PF
SF with length to compliment OO.
Athletic 2G to compete/ compliment(especially defensively) Jasper.
Perry and Noah will be our bench shooters.
Lewis will start to out Krissa as his backup.
 

ala_kat2

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U of L is collecting a huge amount of NIL and Ament is their #1 priority ( at least from those contributing to NIL). If Ament goes to the highest bidder, don’t be surprised if it’s not U of L.
 

SkyPrince1

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Lewis will start to out Krissa as his backup.
You can't be serious about competing for a title with Lewis and Kriisa as your PG's 1-2.
We need a replacement or even a slight upgrade from Butler with Lewis backing him up.
Would love to have Kerr this year but he is really a combo.
Kerr, Perry and Chandler are redundant players.
We need to diversify the line up.
Need some athletes .
 

wildcatdon

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You can't be serious about competing for a title with Lewis and Kriisa as your PG's 1-2.
We need a replacement or even a slight upgrade from Butler with Lewis backing him up.
Would love to have Kerr this year but he is really a combo.
Kerr, Perry and Chandler are redundant players.
We need to diversify the line up.
Need some athletes .
And could use another center also who could play pf. Can’t have too many big guys.
 

SkyPrince1

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And could use another center also who could play pf. Can’t have too many big guys.
I hear ya.
May be a tough sell but Pope can't be concerned about "taking someone's heart"
Truth is players like Garrison, Perry, and Chandler haven't performed well enough to have a " I got next" mentality.
I would say those guys spots could be on the line for possible portal upgrades.
 

permdaddy_rivals45705

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Wilson was going to UNC with or without NIL. We did not get outbid and I don't think we would have gotten Wilson to come here or anywhere besides Duke regardless of Money offered. Most kids don't go to highest bidder that are high school recruits. Portal kids are a different breed, most of the portal kids are money hounds. Every time a kids chooses some school besides us does not mean they were bought. Do you actually think that every kid that chooses us is because we offered a bigger bag of money?
This is in line with what I've heard which is UK offered more but he wanted to play at UNC.
 
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BBallin23

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You can't be serious about competing for a title with Lewis and Kriisa as your PG's 1-2.
We need a replacement or even a slight upgrade from Butler with Lewis backing him up.
Would love to have Kerr this year but he is really a combo.
Kerr, Perry and Chandler are redundant players.
We need to diversify the line up.
Need some athletes .
Underestimating how good Lewis is, and Krissa is a excellent backup.
 

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Trilly said Kentucky will be the last visit he takes.

A big factor in his recruitment is NIL, would love to see Pope pull this off and land Ament.
Ament cancelled his last scheduled visit to Kansas State after watching Duke beating UNC. I don’t think he even has a visit scheduled for Kentucky.

Last time I saw him at Highlands was wearing Duke shorts. I would be very surprised if he doesn’t go to Durham.
 
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AllBall

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Trilly said Kentucky will be the last visit he takes.

A big factor in his recruitment is NIL, would love to see Pope pull this off and land Ament.
He's good but isn't physically ready for a D1 college season. Even if we land Ament we'll need to hit the portal hard for another F and PF.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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He's good but isn't physically ready for a D1 college season. Even if we land Ament we'll need to hit the portal hard for another F and PF.
We need a top quality combo guard, a SF, and a PF with skills and some bulk. I wouldn’t even mind a top flight center or someone as good as Garrison in case Moreno isn’t ready physically yet.
 
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LadyCaytIL

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absolutely DONT drop a bag for him. The SEC will rough him up and we dont know how he will respond to it. We will know if a portal player has a history of playing COLLEGE games and plays through contact and can win.

1000000000% take the 2.5 million it will take to get Ament and then use 3-3.5 million to get 2 of the best portal players.
 

LadyCaytIL

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This is in line with what I've heard which is UK offered more but he wanted to play at UNC.
UNC promised him time and being the main guy on the team. thats why he wanted to play there over us that didnt promise him anything.
Underestimating how good Lewis is, and Krissa is a excellent backup.
Pope isnt starting a PG unless its like Crowe or someone special that talent makes up for no experience with the system. Lewis will be the PG as a soph I think , backup as a freshman.
 
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chasingwildcat

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UNC promised him time and being the main guy on the team. thats why he wanted to play there over us that didnt promise him anything.

Pope isnt starting a PG unless its like Crowe or someone special that talent makes up for no experience with the system. Lewis will be the PG as a soph I think , backup as a freshman.
I think it is likely Jasper the starting 1.
Oweh starting 2
and recruit a solid starter level 3 in portal
 

SkyPrince1

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I think it is likely Jasper the starting 1.
Oweh starting 2
and recruit a solid starter level 3 in portal
Jasper is a scorer and 3pt shooter.
I don't think Pope would have recruited Lewis if he planned on Jasper being his PG.
Oweh's skill set is best suited for the 3 in college.
 

chasingwildcat

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Jasper is a scorer and 3pt shooter.
I don't think Pope would have recruited Lewis if he planned on Jasper being his PG.
Oweh's skill set is best suited for the 3 in college.
Jasper could be, he has about 6 ast average in ote. Definitely pg not sg in ote.

When lewis and Jasper play together, Lewis plays pg, when jasper on and lewis off, Jasper is pg.
 
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SkyPrince1

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Jasper could be, he has about 6 ast average in ote. Definitely pg not sg in ote.

When lewis and Jasper play together, Lewis plays pg, when jasper on and lewis off, Jasper is pg.
Jasper definitely has combo ability but Otega is never going to be a flamethrower from deep.
We're quicker with OO at the three and hopefully we get a PG out of the portal who has some speed.
 
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HoneyMoon155

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absolutely DONT drop a bag for him. The SEC will rough him up and we dont know how he will respond to it. We will know if a portal player has a history of playing COLLEGE games and plays through contact and can win.

1000000000% take the 2.5 million it will take to get Ament and then use 3-3.5 million to get 2 of the best portal players.
Gotta get some talent man, don’t have to get 4 or 5 five stars but one wouldn’t hurt. Having a team full of 4 and 5 year transfers who aren’t good enough to make it at the next level isn’t going to be good enough
 
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Not happening, didn’t you guys see the thread where top players don’t want to come here because the fans are mean
Actually I agree the the part about the fans and their behavior. I've been around this board for 20 years or so.... I don't post a lot as I'm sure will be pointed out but when I read some of the posts on this board you really can't blame a recruit for not wanting to be apart of the madness. I can say this because I live in eastern Ky and as a teacher a lot of the post look as if they are coming from a middle school kid whose teacher is allowing them to play on their phones during class. This board is rather entertaining but could use a lot more class especially when talking about a college kid.