National Seed Discussion

[MSUDC11]

Clearly a step in the wrong direction for us this weekend. Still very much in the Top 8 mix but we’ll be sweating it out a bit now.

Not really worth discussing Arkansas, Texas, Vandy, and now Tennessee. They’re pretty clearly ahead of us in the pecking order and probably your Top 4 seeds if the season ended today.

Most likely you’ll have at least one national seed from the Pac-12. That’s probably Arizona as of today, could end up being Oregon or Stanford. Notre Dame will probably be in the Top 8 too as the presumed ACC champ.

So you’ve basically got two spots up for grabs and several teams in the mix: MSU, TCU, Texas Tech, ECU, Oregon, Stanford, Florida.

Here would be my biggest concern: Florida. I have a strong feeling the SEC isn’t getting more than four Top 8 seeds, and that has been indicated by national writers as well. As previously mentioned, Arkansas/Vandy/Tennessee appear to be locks at this point. So I don’t think both MSU and Florida will be in the Top 8.

A week or two ago the resume comparison was very lopsided in our favor, but now it’s much closer. They’ve been red hot, are up to 16 in the RPI, and have actually passed us in the conference standings. We still have an edge in the metrics but the gap has shrunk considerably. They close with Arkansas in Fayetteville, meaning their RPI should only move up win or lose. Here’s the other interesting thing, as it currently looks, Florida and MSU are probably going to be your 4 and 5 seeds in Hoover, meaning there’s a good chance we play each other. Are any potential games going to be significant for national seed purposes? They very would could.

For now, we absolutely must win two in Tuscaloosa next weekend. It would actually be a nice boost for our RPI too, Bama is sitting at 24 currently. Win that series and you probably make up a good bit of the ground you lost in the RPI this weekend. But lose the series and it may all but sink your Top 8 chances.

 

[anon1787432961]

I personally think the seeding has already been done for national seeds and the team knows.

We played like we already knew is what I'm saying

 

[jdbulldog]

We are in a regional as a one seed, and the way this team has shown it can play on the road we have a good chance of making it to Omaha anyway. National seeding or not we better figure out why we played so poorly this weekend. Why or how did Missouri destroy most of our pitchers? Why so many mental mistakes? Why so many errors? Is the answer “that’s baseball”? I don’t think so.

 

[anon1787432961]

I think we treated this weekend like a scrimmage. Just a warm up. Keep guys healthy. We weren't hiding any pitches. There's no way Mizzou hits that many any other way.

Just practice and get through the weekend healthy. Maybe now a little hungrier.

Reminds me of the NFL and NBA games before the payoffs. We rested our starters, they just didn't sit on the bench. That's what it looked like to me.

 

[DAWGS1.sixpack]

I think we treated this weekend like a scrimmage. Just a warm up. Keep guys healthy. We weren't hiding any pitches. There's no way Mizzou hits that many any other way.

Just practice and get through the weekend healthy. Maybe now a little hungrier.

Reminds me of the NFL and NBA games before the payoffs. We rested our starters, they just didn't sit on the bench. That's what it looked like to me.

We had too much riding on this series to take it lightly. And if we did, after Thursday nights near miss we should have come out on fire Friday. And we didn’t so that should have been a wake up call to come out Saturday afternoon on fire and we didn’t.
We went from a weekend where we could have potentially ended up being tied for the SEC lead to possibly 5th place.
The coaches, Seniors and anyone else that gave a damn should have had this team ready to play and for whatever reason we didn’t and for damn sure Missouri didn’t look nor play like the worst team in the League.
But guess who did??
And that’s unacceptable.
Now we HAVE to win at least 2 at bama and maybe sweep to keep a Top 8 Natl seed.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

We had too much riding on this series to take it lightly. And if we did, after Thursday nights near miss we should have come out on fire Friday. And we didn’t so that should have been a wake up call to come out Saturday afternoon on fire and we didn’t.
We went from a weekend where we could have potentially ended up being tied for the SEC lead to possibly 5th place.
The coaches, Seniors and anyone else that gave a damn should have had this team ready to play and for whatever reason we didn’t and for damn sure Missouri didn’t look nor play like the worst team in the League.
But guess who did??
And that’s unacceptable.
Now we HAVE to win at least 2 at bama and maybe sweep to keep a Top 8 Natl seed.

This guy gets it! The Dogs crapped the sheets this weekend and they better keep them Lily White next weekend or find themselves hunting several wins in Hoover. They had a team meeting after Friday nights debacle and apparently forgot to include the pitchers in the meeting.

 

[Bulldog from Birth]

This weekend hurt. Big rpi hit dropping a home series to that bad of a team. But the bottom line is if we go win 2 out of 3 on the road at Bama, we are a clear national seed somewhere between 5 and 8. If we lose the series at Bama, I would expect we lose that national seed and end up being somewhere between 9 and 12. We are clearly the 4th place SEC team now. The committee will look for a way to limit the SEC to 3 national seeds. If we lose this series, we gave them that reason. Our margin for error is gone after the Missouri turd.

 

[patdog]

Mostly agree, except the committee won't artificially limit SEC top8 seeds. The last NCAA tournament held in 2019 had 4 SEC teams in the top 6 seeds, the 2018 tournament had 4 SEC teams in the top 8 seeds, etc.

 

[MSUDC11]

Florida dropped the third game to Georgia so we are tied with them in the conference standings now. I believe they own any tiebreaker by virtue of their series win against Vandy. So we will need to do one game better than them next weekend to avoid having to play on Tuesday in Hoover.

Regardless, it feels like things are trending toward MSU vs. Florida happening at least once in Hoover and I don’t think that’s insignificant in the national seed race.

 

[o_HuntDawg]

Committee made it clear last year that they also value conference wins, even in conference tournaments.

SEC will only get 4 national seeds: Vandy, Tennessee, Arkansas are all locks at this point

State is the 4th
Florida has an outside shot and I guess if Ole Miss runs the table (wins hoover) they would have to be in the conversation

If Florida gets 2 of 3 this weekend from Arkansas they would make a very compelling argument for a national seed over MSU even if MSU takes 2 of 3 from Bama.

That said, Mississippi State is very much in the drivers seat. With 1 win this weekend would still probably be a national seed, with a win in Hoover. Just can't get swept IMO.

 

[PirateDawg]

If UF takes 2 of 3 from Arky at Arky and we only win one a Blammo then I think the Committee will take UF. Finishing strong goes a long way with NCAA committees. If we win 2 we will make it tough on the committee simply because of our RPI. UF is at 20 right now but beating #1 twice will change that in a hurry.

 

[wsjmsu75]

If UF takes 2 of 3 from Arky at Arky and we only win one a Blammo then I think the Committee will take UF. Finishing strong goes a long way with NCAA committees. If we win 2 we will make it tough on the committee simply because of our RPI. UF is at 20 right now but beating #1 twice will change that in a hurry.

Arkansas has not lost an SEC series so far this year. I don't think they will lose their last one.