NATO is on board moving Greenland from Danish to American control.

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Greenland would have to have some strategic defense value as well.
 

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After hearing about Trump wanting Greenland I looked up the benefits.
It would be a good get if it can happen peacefully. Do you think the world powers would allow it to happen?
Is it worth potentially starting a war over? Honest question.
 

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So Greenlanders get the following through their socialized government programs from Denmark. Do you think they will vote to leave? And if they do, will the United States continue these programs? If so, at what cost to the tax payers here?

  • Government subsidized daycare
  • government funded higher education
  • government health care
  • psychological health care for 18-24 year olds
  • government housing allowances
  • subsidized transportation
 

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So Greenlanders get the following through their socialized government programs from Denmark. Do you think they will vote to leave? And if they do, will the United States continue these programs? If so, at what cost to the tax payers here?

  • Government subsidized daycare
  • government funded higher education
  • government health care
  • psychological health care for 18-24 year olds
  • government housing allowances
  • subsidized transportation
I'd hope not.
 

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Odd. Read a bunch on here saying that Biden was pushing us closer to WW3. :joy:
Preposterous notion. And the exploitation of their rare earth minerals and oil would more than enable them to setup whatever they wanted.

The arctic is of strategic defense importance.

Also, I thought we were against colonization?
 

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Preposterous notion. And the exploitation of their rare earth minerals and oil would more than enable them to setup whatever they wanted.

The arctic is of strategic defense importance.

Also, I thought we were against colonization?
So Trump is just running his mouth or trolling? I know we are against colonization and I don't see how it could work peacefully. I see how it could/would benefit the country .
Do you see away it could work ?
 

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How would it start a war? If Greenland wants to become a US territory they have a process to do it democraticly.
As a territory they could set up whatever social system they wanted. No need to give up subsidies as long as they can afford them and if they have them now they must be able to afford them.
 

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So Trump is just running his mouth or trolling? I know we are against colonization and I don't see how it could work peacefully. I see how it could/would benefit the country .
Do you see away it could work ?
I was pointing out that the people of Greenland feel colonized by Denmark. It’s actually not that great of a marriage between the two.

I could see Greenland independence, which is probably Trump’s ultimate goal, where we would significantly capitalize on.
 

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I was pointing out that the people of Greenland feel colonized by Denmark. It’s actually not that great of a marriage between the two.

I could see Greenland independence, which is probably Trump’s ultimate goal, where we would significantly capitalize on.
When you realize that Chinas main goal is economic dominance and not global war something like a friendly territory such as Greenland and any friends we can have in central and south America is a big deal. A cooperatin Canada would be good too but they are almost speaking Chinese now.
 

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A cooperatin Canada would be good too but they are almost speaking Chinese now.
Not true. Trudeau being forced out has kicked the Canadians in the ***. Look up Fortress AMCAN and the Ontario Provincial Government’s Premier, Doug Ford speaking to it yesterday.
 

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How would it start a war? If Greenland wants to become a US territory they have a process to do it democraticly.
If another European nation, or China, Russia, etc. says "nope, we aren't allowing it". That's how.

I don't see Greenlanders voting for it. Unless they are uniformed of what they would have to give up in order to become an American territory. Personally, I don't care.
 

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If another European nation, or China, Russia, etc. says "nope, we aren't allowing it". That's how.

I don't see Greenlanders voting for it. Unless they are uniformed of what they would have to give up in order to become an American territory. Personally, I don't care.
Greenland wants independence from Denmark. If that happens, it will benefit us. Russia doesn’t get a say, China doesn’t get a say. But, Greenland independence very much would negatively impact both of them and their plans.
 

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Not true. Trudeau being forced out has kicked the Canadians in the ***. Look up Fortress AMCAN and the Ontario Provincial Government’s Premier, Doug Ford speaking to it yesterday.
Will do. Thanks
 

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If another European nation, or China, Russia, etc. says "nope, we aren't allowing it". That's how.

I don't see Greenlanders voting for it. Unless they are uniformed of what they would have to give up in order to become an American territory. Personally, I don't care.
I'm not sure what they would be giving up.
 

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Greenland wants independence from Denmark. If that happens, it will benefit us. Russia doesn’t get a say, China doesn’t get a say. But, Greenland independence very much would negatively impact both of them and their plans.
You speak of “independence “. But what I’m reading is “American territory”. Big difference.
 

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You speak of “independence “. But what I’m reading is “American territory”. Big difference.
And after 8 years, you still don’t understand the his art of the deal speak. US Territory —> Independent Greenland.
 

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Maybe Greenland should check in with Puerto Rico about the incredible benefits of U.S colonization ? It is essentially paradise now under U.S. oversight.
 

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Maybe Greenland should check in with Puerto Rico about the incredible benefits of U.S colonization ? It is essentially paradise now under U.S. oversight.

It's because they have had 70 years of piss poor leadership. Not sure where it will end up now. Any other US obtained land you want to give back though?





Voters in Puerto Rico will be electing a new governor next week, ending an unprecedented race in which a new coalition party has emerged with a strong chance to prevail ahead of the two longstanding traditional parties.

Over the past seven decades, Puerto Rico has been governed by the pro-statehood New Progressive Party, currently in office held by Gov. Pedro Pierluisi, or by the Popular Democratic Party, which supports the island’s current territorial status. And in every election during this time, the front-runners have been candidates from these two parties.

This year, however, the candidate from the Puerto Rican Independence Party, a minority party that advocates for the island’s independence from the U.S., has had a breakthrough.
 
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It's because they have had 70 years of piss poor leadership. Not sure where it will end up now. Any other US obtained land you want to give back though?





Voters in Puerto Rico will be electing a new governor next week, ending an unprecedented race in which a new coalition party has emerged with a strong chance to prevail ahead of the two longstanding traditional parties.

Over the past seven decades, Puerto Rico has been governed by the pro-statehood New Progressive Party, currently in office held by Gov. Pedro Pierluisi, or by the Popular Democratic Party, which supports the island’s current territorial status. And in every election during this time, the front-runners have been candidates from these two parties.

This year, however, the candidate from the Puerto Rican Independence Party, a minority party that advocates for the island’s independence from the U.S., has had a breakthrough.
Just pointing out that being a U.S. territory is not a ticket to prosperity. And the pro-statehood candidate won the PR election again this year, although the incumbent was defeated in the primary . And you are right, political corruption has stifled progress here in PR for decades. The infrastucture here is a shambles, due to mismanagement and graft.
 

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Just pointing out that being a U.S. territory is not a ticket to prosperity. And the pro-statehood candidate won the PR election again this year, although the incumbent was defeated in the primary . And you are right, political corruption has stifled progress here in PR for decades. The infrastucture here is a shambles, due to mismanagement and graft.

Ok. We are not giving up any land though.
 

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Just pointing out that being a U.S. territory is not a ticket to prosperity. And the pro-statehood candidate won the PR election again this year, although the incumbent was defeated in the primary . And you are right, political corruption has stifled progress here in PR for decades. The infrastucture here is a shambles, due to mismanagement and graft.
If I understand what you are saying in this post correctly you are saying PR is a ******** because of PR people running the place ? Or is it American government in d.c ? I'm truly asking
 

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If I understand what you are saying in this post correctly you are saying PR is a ******** because of PR people running the place ? Or is it American government in d.c ? I'm truly asking
A large part of it is due to political corruption, with underlying kickbacks and payoffs . Most of which involved investors who were off-island. Debt skyrocketed in the 70's when the government used bond investment money to balance its budget ( I am not a finance guru, but apparently not a solid plan ). Add to that the cycle of devastating natural disasters, i.e. Hurricnae Maria. There is a lot of blame to pass around, and I truely do not know if statehood vs. independence vs. staus-quo is the answer. I am in Puerto Rico right now, awaiting the arrival of my new grandson who is due any day. The people here are truely wonderful, but the economic strain is wearing on their resolve.