Naz may have some troubles
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In what world does a student maybe transfering equate to "troubles?" They've had "studs" transfer before and will again. This isn't a thread worthy post.
Declaring for the NFL?
I agree who cares...wait is he transferring to my school??? Lol.
For what it’s worth there is no reason he can’t stay for his 3.5 years and head to school early as long as he plans it out with home schooling and understanding his diploma will be issued by the home school and not Naz. It’s still a full and honored high school degree. Now stop trying to make trouble where it doesn’t exist. WADR there is only one kid this would apply to, so stop fishing.
I actually have to thank IMG this year the kid who transferred back is a beast now.
If you have not yet, watch Love Mean Zero about the precursor to IMG, which was the Nick Bollettieri tennis academy.
Is this based on facts? or just the fact that he's a really good player in Illinois and that is what some of them do.
IMG has kids from all over the world on their athletic rosters. Only recently have any kids from the area gone there for basketball or football. Those are the money sports so that is why it is getting any attention.
The 2017 IMG roster had kids from 25 states, along with 8 countries... so it seems like this is an issue for a lot of areas.
Jwar's post above was the only reply that got to the heart of the issue, if I'm understanding. The story isn't that "he" might go to IMG next year or year after. The claim initially made in this thread was that "he" wanted to leave early for college... not skip a year but be a December graduate who enrolls in college in January. This is done by those wanting to take part in spring football practice prior to the freshman year in hopes of being a true freshman starter. It is my understanding that Nazareth may not allow for early graduation, thus the "work around" Jwar explained as a possibility. The thought of the original poster is that "he" would transfer from Nazareth to another HS at some point that allows for early graduation.
No Bias,
More or less what I was getting to yes, however, it’s not the player that is making the choice to come to the college he chooses, but rather a request by the university athletics department for the athlete to enroll in January to get a jump start on adjusting to being a student athlete.
The student is usually set up with a light schedule(12ish credits) to allow for the adjustment to workloads on and off the field and to allow the student to go home for things like Prom and graduation. I did have an extended discussion with the administration at Naz about this very topic in 2015 and cautioned them about finding flexibility in the program to allow for this to happen was important for future and some then current students. Of course this all was said with the caveat that the student was willing and able to complete the necessary work to then graduate with his or her classmates.
More or less what I was getting to yes, however, it’s not the player that is making the choice to come to the college he chooses, but rather a request by the university athletics department for the athlete to enroll in January to get a jump start on adjusting to being a student athlete.
The student is usually set up with a light schedule(12ish credits) to allow for the adjustment to workloads on and off the field and to allow the student to go home for things like Prom and graduation. I did have an extended discussion with the administration at Naz about this very topic in 2015 and cautioned them about finding flexibility in the program to allow for this to happen was important for future and some then current students. Of course this all was said with the caveat that the student was willing and able to complete the necessary work to then graduate with his or her classmates.
Apparently you weren't persuasive enough in your discussions with said administrators?!
There are other Catholic schools in the Chicago Diocese that have allowed student athletes to graduate early. That said I’m certain this is the claim.
Naz will be just fine. Studs come and go. Racki has built a tradition at naz that will have them winning for years to come.
How does it normally work when a kid graduates HS early? Credits from summer school? Taking an extra class instead of a study hall period?
Either way - heavy courseload or summer school. Just accumulate the required credits in the categories required and you can graduate early.
They’re a private school. If they feel that it is necessary to have a student for a full four years to fulfill their requirements then they can do it. I can understand the thought process behind it. They probably feel that their growth as a student cannot be completed properly in 3.5 years(more than likely the religious/character side). If students or families don’t like it they can go to a public school.
Sure it’s their prerogative since they are a private school, I just don’t understand or agree with why they would hold a kid back.
If the kid was smart enough and judged mature enough to go to Harvard at 14 would that be right to hold that student back too?
Sure, as well as concentrating on core requirements vs. taking a bunch of electives.
It’s becoming much more common for even the top academic schools to try to get those kids they can in early to give them a head start.
Let’s be candid and completely open in this discussion, the last 4.5 months of senior year is pure fluff and the student would develop a deep respect for either the academic or religious formation in the first 3.5 years. Proof of this development would exist in the quality of work produced during those 3.5 years.
Welcome to Mount Carmel’s world! Transfers happen, especially at Catholic schools. MC had Pierre Thomas transfer from there and that class still won state. Good programs don’t rely on one player, but it sucks I know. Dean and I joke that the end of the season through Christmas break is known as the “transferring season”
I am waiting for the reclassifying and skipping of Senior year you now see with all the basketball players that were held back in junior high.
Hm, my experience at catholic schools is that there isn't much in the way of electives (with religion being a core requirement and taking up what might be elective courses in a public school).
That's exactly what JT Daniels the freshman QB at USC did. There was much ballyhoo that he "skipped" his senior season at Mater Dei. He was a hold back who then simply classified back to his originl grad class when he decided he didn't need the extra year to reach his goal.
Well not exactly true. Church history at Naz is considered a History/civics course by Naz, however, when we relocated to Pennsylvania the public ciriculum did not recognize it as a suitable course to fulfill the PA state education requirement. Hence, my son Justin had to take two full years of History/Civics his senior year. There is room in the schedule to make the 3.5 year graduation mark achievable at Naz.
The "troubles" part of this is dumb. I do find the general idea of graduating high school interesting though. Is this like a special exception type thing or just a flexible type of scheduling thing that any student, top athlete or not can take advantage of without special accomadations being made?
Anyone can take advantage of it - just complete the required credits.
My girls decided NOT to do this so to enjoy the end of senior year festivities. It's not difficult.