NBA goes gay Collins to play for Nets tonight
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A PR move if ever there was one. There are plenty of players in the D league better than Collins that would play for 1/10th of what they have to pay a veteran. Not to mention Collins was not even good in his prime.
I have no issue at all with gay players but Collins should be enjoying retirement now.
I have no issue at all with gay players but Collins should be enjoying retirement now.
What you posted can apply to lots of teams each season
How the 17 did DeSegana Diop play for 12 or 13 seasons?
I don't pretend to understand why totally unproductive players get contracts year after year.
But it's all over the league.
I just chalk it up to good veteran leadership or something that can't be measured.
How the 17 did DeSegana Diop play for 12 or 13 seasons?
I don't pretend to understand why totally unproductive players get contracts year after year.
But it's all over the league.
I just chalk it up to good veteran leadership or something that can't be measured.
I've always wondered that too. And I think you touched on it, it's all about being a veteran and front offices knowing what they're getting. They've seen them play enough to know whereas some dude ind league they've never scouted doesn't get the time of day.
This may have been a PR move, but I think you are overestimating the quality of the players in the D-League.
I think you are underestimating the quality. Look at how many have been called up to the NBA over the last couple of years. It has become a legitimate development league.
On a related note- If the NBA does change their drafting rule to 2 years out of HS, I hope some elite players who have no desire or business being in college choose to follow Starkville native Latavious Williams' path and just goes to the DLeague. They will be able to play for 2 years in an environment that is more talented than college basketball, play in more games, have more training, and get paid(legally).
Cue the old Billy Madison scene where he is in the academic decathlon-
"Mr. Madison, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
"Mr. Madison, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
Apparently you didnt get the memo that Whiteburbia turns its collective nose up at the NBA while sipping on Dom Perignon and sampling chilled Beluga caviar.
How simple a life you must lead.
It's obvious a few of you don't understand or follow the NBA.
Collins is a center with NBA experience who signed a 10 day contract with a team that needs defensive help down low while they deal with a few injuries and try to find some rest for some aging bigs. This move made a lot more sense that that run on sentence I just typed.
Collins is a center with NBA experience who signed a 10 day contract with a team that needs defensive help down low while they deal with a few injuries and try to find some rest for some aging bigs. This move made a lot more sense that that run on sentence I just typed.
I don't think that's a run-on sentence; not well constructed perhaps, but not a run-on.
Clearly you don't follow the Nets. Everything they do is for attention.
Please don't think that there aren't big men available who are considerably more deserving of a 10-day contract.
There is certainly a PR aspect to it, but it's not a crazy from a basketball standpoint. He's basically a space filler. He offers a good option against bigger centers and plays passable defense otherwise. His rebounding is pretty bad, but the rest of the stats are not what he's there for. He's a known quantity that won't mess up team chemistry (not sure this is a good argument for the Nets, but generally). I think his salary to the extent it's higher b/c he's a veteran is partially picked up by the league, so they're not paying a lot extra to sign him over a D-League player.
ETA: This guy was in the league a year ago. He was a fringe player last year too, but big men always seem to hang around longer as fringe players, I guess because it's much easier for them to come in for spot duty, give you a couple of fouls, and grab a rebound or two. Much harder to be a borderline perimeter player and to come in and contribute in irregular, short minutes.
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I disagree with about all of this. Adding an openly gay player won't mess up team chemistry? You've got to be kidding me. Big men don't last long in the NBA. Their knees are the first things to go. Marcus Camby is the exception to the rule.
Here's a few names that they had to choose from. Maybe you've heard of them before:
Antwan Jamison
Earl Clark
Lamar Odom
Glen Davis
DeSagana Diop
Lou Amundson
Earl Barron
Kwame Brown
Daniel Orton
What do you think the Nets hope to gain from all the attention that you suggest they crave? Is it the 2000 nose bleed tickets they MIGHT sell for the two home games they play during the 10 day contract? Are they thinking this will stir the Nets fanbase enough to get them to turn out in droves at Portland and/or Denver? Perhaps they think the Collins 46 jersey sales over the next week and a half will put them in the black? Or is this a ploy by Prokhorov to give the bird to Mother Russia?
Im not buying the marketing angle.
It's a lot more than a PR move. How would you like to live your life as a public figure who has to hide one of the core truths of his being? Saying it's a PR move is beyond ridiculous.
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I'm with you. This idea that the move has a PR angle is caught up between goofy, ignorant, and stupid.
Where's Joe Pesci...
CBB is way more entertaining to me, especially March Madness.
The NBA, like the MLB play way too many games. I wait til the conference and division championships.
CBB is way more entertaining to me, especially March Madness.
The NBA, like the MLB play way too many games. I wait til the conference and division championships.
Daniel Orton? They aren't looking for a project.
Keane Brown? No comment needed.
DeSagans Diop? As I mentioned earlier in this thread, how the 17 did he ever last 12 or 14 seasons? What a waste of contracts he was.
Odom? That guy needs to be out of the league for the whole year and stay overseas. Which by the way- he is overseas. Not available last I saw.
Glen Davis is the best option of your list and he is an undersized PF who is effective in some situations but falls short in others. Playing a true 5 in a rotation where he would have to fill Sideshow Bob's twin brother's shoes is a situation where he would struggle.
I used to feel that way
But college basketball is awful these days. They really need to change the one and done rule
But college basketball is awful these days. They really need to change the one and done rule
I'm not saying that there are or aren't, but more than once someone has asserted that there were obviously better solutions but without naming any of those better options.
Would you like it to be like baseball where a HS kid can either go pro or stay 3 years?
Or would you like to see all players be 3 years removed from HS?
Or something different?
I would love to see the DLeague flourish with elite HS prospects since they can play there right after HS, get more experience against better competition, and play more games.
Let those who want to be in college go to college.
Or would you like to see all players be 3 years removed from HS?
Or something different?
I would love to see the DLeague flourish with elite HS prospects since they can play there right after HS, get more experience against better competition, and play more games.
Let those who want to be in college go to college.
Yes like baseball
Let them go out of high school, but if you come to college you are here for 3 years
Let them go out of high school, but if you come to college you are here for 3 years
I didn't say big men lasted longer, I said they lasted longer as fringe players. It's hard to drop a three point specialist in for several two or three minute stretches. Most shooters need some playing time to get in a rhythm. You can play a subpar big man in that pattern and be fine.
And out of your supposed replacements, one has an admitted drug problem and most of them are not big enough to guard Hibbett. Besides, the standard is not whether Jason Collins was the best possible signing. Most signings aren't. But signing Collins is defensible from a basketball standpoint. The Celtics didn't sign him last year as a publicity stunt and they probably could have done a little better, but yet he was on a team.
You do realize this is a ten day contract right? I don't think they give a crap about his knees. He's there to provide defensive help because Lopez is out for the season, Garnett is the knees they are worried about and he can't be playing defense at the 5 all the time, and your other two players that can play the 5 are Blatche and Mason Plumlee. If anything, it gives Plumlee ten days (maybe 20 if they resign) to see how a true veteran 5 works. I also never thought I'd have to explain a 10 day contract move by the freaking Nets.
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