NBA Looking To Lower Draft Age From 19 To 18

[shadow force]

The NBA has submitted to the National Basketball Players Association a formal proposal that will lower the draft-eligible age to 18 from 19, a person with knowledge of the proposal told USA TODAY Sports.

The league and union have had informal discussions about lowering the age limit, and NBA commissioner Adam Silver is on record saying the current 19-year-old age limit is not working for the league or college basketball.

This is the first step in formal negotiations to lower the age limit by the 2022 draft. The issue is collectively bargained between the NBA and NBPA, and both sides need to agree to any rule change.

 

[KerryRhodes]

So 2022 is when Crapiperi is done with college basketball.

That or the smoking guns finally come out..........

 

[Cue Card]

The kids never should have been forced to go to college in the first place if they didn't want to go, but other than going to the G-League or overseas, the only viable option was to play the charade of being a student-athlete for 2 semesters.

Glad this will eventually be fixed.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

So 2022 is when Crapiperi is done with college basketball.

That or the smoking guns finally come out..........

It wont make any difference, I'm looking forward to the change. The top kids will go pro and everyone's recruiting will shift down a bit.

 

[WhatMeWorry]

How many, in a given year, does anybody think will go pro? 5, 10, 20? How big of an effect can this have on college ball. Most that go will end up in the G league, and there are a finite number of spots.

 

[zipp_rivals]

It wont make any difference, I'm looking forward to the change. The top kids will go pro and everyone's recruiting will shift down a bit.

The problem is that slappies live for recruiting, and your program is currently 90% dependent on it. But hey, look forward to it anyway...

 

[Trinity45]

The NBA has submitted to the National Basketball Players Association a formal proposal that will lower the draft-eligible age to 18 from 19, a person with knowledge of the proposal told USA TODAY Sports.

The league and union have had informal discussions about lowering the age limit, and NBA commissioner Adam Silver is on record saying the current 19-year-old age limit is not working for the league or college basketball.

This is the first step in formal negotiations to lower the age limit by the 2022 draft. The issue is collectively bargained between the NBA and NBPA, and both sides need to agree to any rule change.

In reality this will only affect about 3 to 6 really good players, the NBA is not going to waste picks on a bunch of unproven high school players unless they are Zion type players. The average 5 star kid would still be better going to college, nothing is going to stop them from jumping to the pro's after 1 year or 2 years if it looks like they will get drafted.

 

[cyanide_78]

The problem is that slappies live for recruiting, and your program is currently 90% dependent on it. But hey, look forward to it anyway...

Every program is 90% dependant on it.

There is no problem with the change. Matter of fact this changes nothing. I know you’d like to believe otherwise but you’re just going to have to live with the disappointment

 

[cyanide_78]

How many, in a given year, does anybody think will go pro? 5, 10, 20? How big of an effect can this have on college ball. Most that go will end up in the G league, and there are a finite number of spots.

I’d say around 5 or so. Probably closer to 8 or 10 in the first year but then will level off by year 2 or 3. This will absolutely affect how kids prepare in high school. I expect a few kids to pursue the draft when they have no business in the draft. No longer have to make grades.

 

[Cue Card]

How many, in a given year, does anybody think will go pro? 5, 10, 20? How big of an effect can this have on college ball. Most that go will end up in the G league, and there are a finite number of spots.

I agree. That's why the one and done rule was such a bad one in the first place. The kids who want to go pro should be allowed to after HS because that talent pool is shallow. There will be kids who decide to go pro who won't get drafted, and those kids can then go overseas or to the G-league to chase their dream. No need for any kid to go to college who doesn't want to.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

The problem is that slappies live for recruiting, and your program is currently 90% dependent on it. But hey, look forward to it anyway...

I dont prefer Cals current recruiting style. I did notice you didnt exactly refute what I said.

 

[CardVille]

In reality this will only affect about 3 to 6 really good players, the NBA is not going to waste picks on a bunch of unproven high school players unless they are Zion type players. The average 5 star kid would still be better going to college, nothing is going to stop them from jumping to the pro's after 1 year or 2 years if it looks like they will get drafted.

Actually the NBA WILL waste picks on unproven talent. They do it all the time since they draft on potential. I do agree that there are usually about 3 to 6 really good players, but the NBA will draft about 10 or more kids of which only about half of them will pan out.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Actually the NBA WILL waste picks on unproven talent. They do it all the time since they draft on potential. I do agree that there are usually about 3 to 6 really good players, but the NBA will draft about 10 or more kids of which only about half of them will pan out.

Yep, thats pretty accurate.

 

[zipp_rivals]

Every program is 90% dependant on it...

No, yours and maybe Duke and Kansas are only as good as the freshmen they have coming in. The rest of the schools rely more on coaching...

 

[zipp_rivals]

I dont prefer Cals current recruiting style. I did notice you didnt exactly refute what I said.

Your recruiting will "shift down" more than everyone else's, relatively speaking. There's no evidence that LPT will simply take the next best recruits successfully. Those aren't OAD kids.

Is that what you wanted a response to?...

 

[sk73]

So 2022 is when Crapiperi is done with college basketball.

That or the smoking guns finally come out..........

I would assume he will continue recruiting the best guys available. Obviously, the recruits will not be as good as in past years but still among the best in the country. I do not know how you can say that this change will increase or decrease any coaches ability to recruit. Its all relative.

 

[cyanide_78]

No, yours and maybe Duke and Kansas are only as good as the freshmen they have coming in. The rest of the schools rely more on coaching...

Then why even bother recruiting? You have so little knowledge of the game.

 

[cyanide_78]

Your recruiting will "shift down" more than everyone else's, relatively speaking. There's no evidence that LPT will simply take the next best recruits successfully. Those aren't OAD kids.

Is that what you wanted a response to?...

Our recruiting will shift down and everyone else’s will shift down. Why is this so hard for you to understand? This changes nothing. Kentucky and duke will continue to get the best available players.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Your recruiting will "shift down" more than everyone else's, relatively speaking. There's no evidence that LPT will simply take the next best recruits successfully. Those aren't OAD kids.

Is that what you wanted a response to?...

It will be a fairly even shift down for everyone. We'll be fine. We'll load up on guys 15-50, that's fine.

 

[KerryRhodes]

It will be a fairly even shift down for everyone. We'll be fine. We'll load up on guys 15-50, that's fine.

Your coach has alot of trouble coaching kids in that range.

He gone.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood_rivals307205]

I think a lot of people are low balling the # of guys that will enter the draft. How many guys are turning pro after year one? A lot. We're seeing guys going pro with no stats in some instances.

What I'm unsure about is, when guys don't get drafted that entered, how easy will it be for them to find a college home if they don't want the G League? Will it be too late? Would they prefer the G-League over college? Maybe teams hold back one scholarship until late in the process? I'm unsure of the timelines.

All you guys with the crystal ball send me the next power ball #'s.

Thanks!

 

[chevelle99]

So what happens when the rule changes? I’d like to hear some opinions. Does it force NBA teams to choose between highly speculate high school seniors or scantily proven college freshmen who play one year for national exposure?

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Your coach has alot of trouble coaching kids in that range.

He gone.

I dont think you've been watching. We've had lots and lots of successful players in that range.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

I think a lot of people are low balling the # of guys that will enter the draft. How many guys are turning pro after year one? A lot. We're seeing guys going pro with no stats in some instances.

What I'm unsure about is, when guys don't get drafted that entered, how easy will it be for them to find a college home if they don't want the G League? Will it be too late? Would they prefer the G-League over college? Maybe teams hold back one scholarship until late in the process? I'm unsure of the timelines.

All you guys with the crystal ball send me the next power ball #'s.

Thanks!

I think 15-20 a year will be about it. Lots of teams will get burned and they'll pull back.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood_rivals307205]

15-20 is a lot, I could see more also with the G League being a training facility.

And it's removing the elite from college without question. Just looked at the 2020 Mock draft - 10 of top 11 will be FR, the other is an International player.

College landscape changes. Immediate impact players are removed from the pool. Programs will no longer be able to fix a roster with a single recruiting class through HS recruiting, or one gem recruit from HS. Elite programs will obviously be more susceptible to "down" seasons. The playing field gets leveled. The 29th rated HS player is not that much better than the guy rated 55th.

Teams get burnt in the draft every year taking unproven commodities relying on potential, but they've been doing it for years. Due to age they won't turn on the HS potential, if anything they may pull the trigger even sooner on the younger player, because they are getting one more year to train them.

 

[zipp_rivals]

It will be a fairly even shift down for everyone. We'll be fine. We'll load up on guys 15-50, that's fine.

For that to be true, you have to make your case--for example--that LPT will be forced to take more four-star kids at the expense of a school like U of L who will move down the food chain.

And your program isn't necessarily in that position. Lite is known for his ability to manage five-star kids for a few months before going pro. Most of the better programs rely less on talent and more on coaching. Four-star kids ain't going to the NBA after the freshman seasons.

If your coach is suspect on the Xs and Os, there's no logical connection between kids who require good coaching and their desire to attend LPT. Again, that's not what your program offers.

Can LPT reinvent itself? Sure it's possible, but nothing is certain. If anything, the last few years of LPT recruits outside the Top Ten indicate more questions than answers as far as Lite's future...

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood_rivals307205]

The point is the best available players out of HS won't be going to college - the ones attending college will be very similar in size and skill and require much more time to develop.

It doesn't mean Duke, UK, and KU are going to suddenly have epic fail programs. But it does mean they will be more susceptible to a "down" season because talent of rosters is going to even out.

It will also be harder to sustain success due to it being more difficult to have a quick fix to a team's weaknesses, whatever they are.

Recruiting also becomes much more of a crapshoot. It's real easy to spot Zion and RJ Barrett's worth before they step onto campus. It's not as easy to identify the standouts in the 30-100 range.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood_rivals307205]

Just checked out Rivals HS rankings .... had no idea the 4 star range was from #32-#139.

That's a lot of guys with the same star. Oh yeah I get it, there is a difference between a high end and low end. Good luck guessing who is better when you're sifting through James Akinjo, Jaylen Hoard, Joe Wieskamp, Prentiss Hubb, Saddiq Bey, and Daniel Oturu during the recruiting process.

 

[zipp_rivals]

The point is the best available players out of HS won't be going to college - the ones attending college will be very similar in size and skill and require much more time to develop.

It doesn't mean Duke, UK, and KU are going to suddenly have epic fail programs. But it does mean they will be more susceptible to a "down" season because talent of rosters is going to even out.

It will also be harder to sustain success due to it being more difficult to have a quick fix to a team's weaknesses, whatever they are.

Recruiting also becomes much more of a crapshoot. It's real easy to spot Zion and RJ Barrett's worth before they step onto campus. It's not as easy to identify the standouts in the 30-100 range.

You could be right about more than just the elite players skipping college. But there's nothing preventing Jordan Nwora or Malik Williams from doing that now. They could have gone overseas to start playing for money a couple years ago.

I do think just about all of the five-star kids skip, and very few return if they go undrafted. 30-50 ranked will probably be about half skipping. This will kill the recruiting of the traditionally Top 3-4 schools. May not necessarily kill their on-the-court results, e.g., Duke under Coach K...

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood_rivals307205]

But there's nothing preventing Jordan Nwora or Malik Williams from doing that now. .

My only counter-point to that is some guys may not be comfortable leaving the country. That's a major move right there. Not everybody can handle it.

But I get it - options are wide open for today's player with ability to transfer or go overseas... etc.

 

[Cue Card]

So what happens when the rule changes? I’d like to hear some opinions. Does it force NBA teams to choose between highly speculate high school seniors or scantily proven college freshmen who play one year for national exposure?

Hoping the kids who develop during their 4 years of college start getting more love from the NBA GM's.

 

[KerryRhodes]

Hoping the kids who develop during their 4 years of college start getting more love from the NBA GM's.

They wont.

Theyre deemed a ' failure' or last option, despite their maturity.

No GM wants to pass up the next 'Kobe' who was selected 13th.

And the players want to get the quickest jump on the second contract. Thats the contract that pays all the millions.

Id rather have a guy with at least 2 or 3 yrs of college than a 18 yr old. Then again, im in no position of power.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

For that to be true, you have to make your case--for example--that LPT will be forced to take more four-star kids at the expense of a school like U of L who will move down the food chain.

And your program isn't necessarily in that position. Lite is known for his ability to manage five-star kids for a few months before going pro. Most of the better programs rely less on talent and more on coaching. Four-star kids ain't going to the NBA after the freshman seasons.

If your coach is suspect on the Xs and Os, there's no logical connection between kids who require good coaching and their desire to attend LPT. Again, that's not what your program offers.

Can LPT reinvent itself? Sure it's possible, but nothing is certain. If anything, the last few years of LPT recruits outside the Top Ten indicate more questions than answers as far as Lite's future...

Yeah, four star kids don't go pro after 1 year, signed Herro, Booker, Bledsoe, Gilgeous-Alexander. If you think Cal can't coach, you're in a gross minority. He did pretty well at UMass and Memphis without a roster full of 5 stars.

 

[KozmasAgain]

I think it will level the playing field talent wise. I also think there will be more than 20 players going pro every year. The players that go to sUcK don't go there because of the tradition of the school or because of great coaching. They go there because they are given a platform to display their talents and academics aren't forced upon them.

 

[teamcanada]

Yeah, four star kids don't go pro after 1 year, signed Herro, Booker, Bledsoe, Gilgeous-Alexander. If you think Cal can't coach, you're in a gross minority. He did pretty well at UMass and Memphis without a roster full of 5 stars.

He had Camby at UMass and struggled to even make the tournament at Memphis until he hooked up with World Wide Wes and started getting the Rose's and Wagners of the world.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

He had Camby at UMass and struggled to even make the tournament at Memphis until he hooked up with World Wide Wes and started getting the Rose's and Wagners of the world.

That isn't accurate. In his first year he got them to 21-15 finishing 3rd in the NIT. The previous year Memphis had a losing record. He won the conference and the NIT the next year. Over the next 7 years he only missed the NCAA once and only failed to win the conference once. Each of those 7 years Memphis was ranked in the top 25 at some points in the season.

 

[cyanide_78]

For that to be true, you have to make your case--for example--that LPT will be forced to take more four-star kids at the expense of a school like U of L who will move down the food chain.

And your program isn't necessarily in that position. Lite is known for his ability to manage five-star kids for a few months before going pro. Most of the better programs rely less on talent and more on coaching. Four-star kids ain't going to the NBA after the freshman seasons.

If your coach is suspect on the Xs and Os, there's no logical connection between kids who require good coaching and their desire to attend LPT. Again, that's not what your program offers.

Can LPT reinvent itself? Sure it's possible, but nothing is certain. If anything, the last few years of LPT recruits outside the Top Ten indicate more questions than answers as far as Lite's future...

Nothing you’re saying is true or accurate but it’s not your fault. You simply just don’t know any better. All you know is how to hate all things Kentucky and cal can’t coach and yada yada. You wouldn’t know basketball if someone drew it in crayon for you.

Oh and the 4 stars? Ours have been pretty awesome because one of cal’s best attributes is seeing what others don’t. Stay hatin’

 

[teamcanada]

That isn't accurate. In his first year he got them to 21-15 finishing 3rd in the NIT. The previous year Memphis had a losing record. He won the conference and the NIT the next year. Over the next 7 years he only missed the NCAA once and only failed to win the conference once. Each of those 7 years Memphis was ranked in the top 25 at some points in the season.[/QUOTE

That isn't accurate. In his first year he got them to 21-15 finishing 3rd in the NIT. The previous year Memphis had a losing record. He won the conference and the NIT the next year. Over the next 7 years he only missed the NCAA once and only failed to win the conference once. Each of those 7 years Memphis was ranked in the top 25 at some points in the season.

Like I said that's when he hooked up with WWW.

 

[KerryRhodes]

Oh and the 4 stars? Ours have been pretty awesome because one of cal’s best attributes is seeing what others don’t.

LoL
You can not.........be serious

 

[cyanide_78]

Your coach has alot of trouble coaching kids in that range.

He gone.

Does he?