Ah now nice that they look into Eric Bledsoe AFTER he finishes his one season at UK
NCAA Looking into Former Kentucky Player
NCAA Looking into Former Kentucky Player
NCAA Looking into Former Kentucky Basketball Player
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In these sort of instances, how is the college coach supposed to know that the HS coach paid for the player's housing?
I plead ignorance on the issue, does a college program go into that sort of detail when recruiting a player?
As for Bledsoe's transcript improving in a short time, I assume the proper department(s) at UK looked into them, correct?
When the player takes an official visit, they must have their transcript for the college by then, so UK entrance folk saw it, I would think.
If they OK Bledsoe based on his transcript, then how is Calipari/any UK staff supposed to know there was some hinky stuff going on?
This is yet another example of things around Calipari being shady, but was he himself shady?
I would have a problem with thinking Stansbury is responsible or accountable for a player's HS coach paying the player's rent. And if Stans were blamed for a player's transcript improving too quickly, I would have a problem with that too.
How is a college coach responsible for these things? Do they look into recruits in this much detail? I really do not know.</p>
I plead ignorance on the issue, does a college program go into that sort of detail when recruiting a player?
As for Bledsoe's transcript improving in a short time, I assume the proper department(s) at UK looked into them, correct?
When the player takes an official visit, they must have their transcript for the college by then, so UK entrance folk saw it, I would think.
If they OK Bledsoe based on his transcript, then how is Calipari/any UK staff supposed to know there was some hinky stuff going on?
This is yet another example of things around Calipari being shady, but was he himself shady?
I would have a problem with thinking Stansbury is responsible or accountable for a player's HS coach paying the player's rent. And if Stans were blamed for a player's transcript improving too quickly, I would have a problem with that too.
How is a college coach responsible for these things? Do they look into recruits in this much detail? I really do not know.</p>
Yes, I would like to implicate Calipari since IMO he is a total slime ball. But...sounds as if the shenanigans occurred at the high school level. This is more than anything another shining example of the farce that is the so called college basketball "student athlete". Student athlete my arse. College basketball is the AAU on the next level, the minor league for the NBA. The NBA needs what professional baseball has in order to come anywhere close to what college basketball should really be about. I think the same thing could be said for the NFL.
It doesn't matter if Calipari knew or not. That was why he had his final four stripped at Memphis. Neither he or Memphis knew Derrick Rose had someone take his ACT for him, but since he did, Rose was declared ineligible after the fact and therefore every game he played in, which was all of them, was forfeited because he was ineligible for NCAA sports. Same deal with Bledsoe, if all these accusations pan out then he would be ruled ineligible like Rose was and UK would have to forfeit their wins. If we had played Sidney this year, and all his accusations came out after the season, we would not be on any kind of probation in the future, but he would of been ruled ineligible. If these Bledsoe accusations come to surface, then at the very least despite UK's knowledge this past season will be hugely affected. Or it should be, it is Kentucky basketball. It is a ****** situation for UK, but funny. What goes around comes around.
as many people as do know on this stuff, i am hard pressed to believe calipari, or sherrill, or brewer or any of these coaches who get in trouble don't know. its plausible deniability at best and just good "management" at worst. IMO boosters, kids, aau coaches, highschool coaches don't do this stuff without the coaches knowing . the idea that george smith went off the reservation and offered wayne marting money without brewer knowing is just laughable, IMO. the really good ones just keep enough wall up so that there is nothing to "prove" they knew. that's why the ncaa "lists" what they can prove and punishes on what they "know".........except of course for bama who gets a pass and a ms school or kentucky (football of course) gets hammered in their place.</p>
I get that he/his program is punished, I just think that in instances like this, blaming the college coach makes little sense.pgddawg said:
He didnt provide the money for rent. He wasnt involved in improving the grades to qualify.
Since he didnt do either and didnt ask others to do it, its pretty absurd to call him slime for other people's actions.
When recruiting, do coaches look into who was paying for a prospect's house or if the grades on a transcript that they are given is legit?
I would think not since that sort of research would cost massive $$.
If this had happened to Stans, i wouldnt blame him. So why would i blame Calipari for this?
is if this team has to forfeit all those wins then this will be the second Calipari team to eliminate us from the NCAA tourney that has played us with ineligible players...
almost all of Cal's signees have baggage, and considerable baggage at that - we sign one with a little bit of baggage, and the NCAA makes him out to be more evil than Hitler
that doesn't mean that this doesn't happen.
[list type=decimal][*]Calipari tells an assistant responsible for recruiting that area to talk to Bledsoe.[*]Bledsoe's high school implies he wants some cash to talk to Bledsoe.[*]Assistant coach calls a local booster.[*]Booster pays coach off (maybe by a shady loan on a new car/refinance his house if the
Booster is banker. Maybe some stock option package if the booster is a
businessman. Maybe the coaches' Brother is in construction and the
booster hires the brother to do some work and overpays with the
understanding some goes to the Coach). There are ALOT of ways to grease
these wheels now and days.
[*]Bledsoe's high school coach then calls UK/Calipari and it's a normal recruitment from there forward.[/list]Calipari never says to give the coach 5,000 (ala Tim Floyd), but at programs with enough resources he doesn't have to.
[list type=decimal][*]Calipari tells an assistant responsible for recruiting that area to talk to Bledsoe.[*]Bledsoe's high school implies he wants some cash to talk to Bledsoe.[*]Assistant coach calls a local booster.[*]Booster pays coach off (maybe by a shady loan on a new car/refinance his house if the
Booster is banker. Maybe some stock option package if the booster is a
businessman. Maybe the coaches' Brother is in construction and the
booster hires the brother to do some work and overpays with the
understanding some goes to the Coach). There are ALOT of ways to grease
these wheels now and days.
[*]Bledsoe's high school coach then calls UK/Calipari and it's a normal recruitment from there forward.[/list]Calipari never says to give the coach 5,000 (ala Tim Floyd), but at programs with enough resources he doesn't have to.
It's like Capone going down on tax charges. Just doesn't make sense.
Bledsoe was the Fredo of the group of one-and-dones (Wall=Michael, Cousins is obviously Sonny)
who knew?
And I'll say this every time a rumor like this comes out: if anything comes of this, party at my place.
Bledsoe was the Fredo of the group of one-and-dones (Wall=Michael, Cousins is obviously Sonny)
who knew?
And I'll say this every time a rumor like this comes out: if anything comes of this, party at my place.
What I said is its absurd for a college coach to know or be expected to know how a recruit's house is paid for or if a recruit's grades are legit. Especially when the school OKs the recruit's transcript.
I would think this if it were Calipari, Tubby, Weber, or Stansbury.
I would think this if it were Calipari, Tubby, Weber, or Stansbury.