NCAA question

[JungRebel]

I was trying to look at worst case scenario based on what the NCAA has historically done and catch up a bit, I haven't had easy access to a computer the last couple weeks. I know people are tuned in to it over there too but figured they would get into why this or that charge is BS. Since that's not how the NCAA works I don't think that matters. I am interested, however, in whether or not LL could prove Ole Miss paid him or if the NCAA was just taking his word for it. I'll be interested in what happens in that case if RR has to disassociate because that could legitimately destroy their business, but I'm not a lawyer so I don't know if they would have a case.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Why Ole Miss is clinging to Freeze is beyond me.

Way easy question. Freeze 'knows' everything .. network, 'who' paid, the Inn .. everything. If OM fires Bucky, they risk a PR disaster.

Basketball coach breaks the rules .. gone. Track coach breaks the rules .. gone. OM hit with NOA #1 .. OM blames WBB, track and Nutt .. NO FB COACH is fired.

 

[thatsbaseball]

It's just hard to fire a guy for doing EXACTLY what you paid him to do....

 

[Dogariffic]

Not having a similar case may be the reason tsun gets the hammer. In 10 years people may look back on this case like SMU and say the penalties were too harsh!!!!
If that is possible**

 

[RutherfordBHayes]

Does it ever go to court? Could anyone prove anything?

No way. It's a publicity stunt to rally support. Otherwise, fans might blame him for the allegations. Even though Ole Miss fans tend to blame everyone but those actually involved, this could hurt his business if he did nothing. Now, they have rallied behind him as fighting "the man". It's kind of brilliant.

Think about it. Here is a booster recklessly giving illegal benefits to prospects. He gets caught. These are serious allegations that will cause significant damage to the program. Most rational fans will blame him for being stupid. It could (should?) significantly reduce his sales as these fans shop elsewhere. He calls it all lies, hires an attorney, files motions, and puts on a good show for several months. The fans rally behind him

But in a best case scenario for Ole Miss, this thing will last a year or more with various and sundry depositions and motions. Before anything goes to court, the punishments will have long since been levied. The damage will have been done. There would be nothing to accomplish but some spseudo-vindication on paper costing tens of thousands. Again, that's best case scenario.

However, there is no way that these are all lies from some cockamamie, trumped-up conspiracy between the kids, coaches, MSU, the SEC, and the NCAA. That just defies logic.

 

[idog]

the Rutgers case should wrap up before the OM case

and may provide some insight into what the NCAA is going to do. both cases involved "failure to monitor" but the Rutgers case only involves level II violations.

ref: http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...the_self-imposed_penalties_rutgers_hopes.html

 

[maroonmadman]

Does it ever go to court? Could anyone prove anything?

Ask Jackie Sherrill that question.

 

[JungRebel]

Is there proof other than testimony that he gave illegal benefits?

 

[Junction John]

The problem (for RR) is that unless you're an expert at covering your tracks, there's usually a trail. And from what I have heard about this guy for years - he's no genius. In fact, he's *gone out of his way to brag fairly publicly about all the people he knows, always having all the inside scoop*, and all the players* coming in his store. And if you can't keep your mouth shut, you *relax over time, *get sloppy, and it's **** like that that will come back to bite you.

Now, exactly how well he did cover his tracks*, how hard they are digging, how much do they focus on this relatively small issue vs. the big ones (Freeze, LOIC, ACTs, etc.)... Those questions are yet unanswered.

*allegedly

 

[aTotal360]

And you're trying to lure our trolls out.

 

[RutherfordBHayes]

Is there proof other than testimony that he gave illegal benefits?

There wouldn't be receipts. It would make sense that the merchandise was disposed of once the kids signed elsewhere. You wouldn't expect the retailer to provide any evidence.
The only evidence I could imagine would be texts, pics, or a large enough number of unrelated recruits testifying to similar stories. But it appears that the NCAA finds whatever evidence or testimony credible.