NCAA supporting transgender athletes

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How is it not right? If he is gay/trans now, he was having those feeling then. And was still able to compete and beat straight males.
It really was not my intention to dive into this when I responded. But your tagline of "gay man wins gold" was simply not accurate. A simple google search: "Jenner came out as a trans woman, saying that she had dealt with gender dysphoria since an early age". That does not make her a gay man.
 

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I believe the NCAA has had their policy in place since 2011 on transgender athletes. Just so you know, I'm not necessarily for the inclusion of trans athletes in women's sports. I just find it weird when people (not you) go off on the, "it's going to ruin women's sports" when it will have minimal, if any impact.
It's already had an impact. And it's just beginning. How much unfairness is acceptable? "Oh, it's only harming a few". Is the NCAA there to promote fair competition or to enact liberal social engineering policies?

I find it weird that you're willing to rationalize this crap and disregard individual rights. On second thought, if you're a leftist you're more about the collective, so it makes perfect sense. And no, you have no right competing against women if you were born male, chem treatment or not. Your DNA, bone, and muscle structure cannot be completely changed. Science dude.
 

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It really was not my intention to dive into this when I responded. But your tagline of "gay man wins gold" was simply not accurate. A simple google search: "Jenner came out as a trans woman, saying that she had dealt with gender dysphoria since an early age". That does not make her a gay man.
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PhDcat2018

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It's like nobody has seen kindergarten cop. Boys have a penis, girls have a ******. Those are the 2 genders. Unless you're one of the ridiculously low % born with both. I don't want to hear any female athlete complain about a dude with fake boobs playing against them.
 
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It's already had an impact. And it's just beginning. How much unfairness is acceptable? "Oh, it's only harming a few". Is the NCAA there to promote fair competition or to enact liberal social engineering policies?

I find it weird that you're willing to rationalize this crap and disregard individual rights. On second thought, if you're a leftist you're more about the collective, so it makes perfect sense. And no, you have no right competing against women if you were born male, chem treatment or not. Your DNA, bone, and muscle structure cannot be completely changed. Science dude.
I haven’t rationalized anything. I’ve asked questions, stated that I’m not in favor of the current policy and am not a “leftist”....whatever that has to do with our conversation. I can actually not be in favor of the current policy and also say that it’s had such a minimal impact (1 out of 460,000 college athletes so far that have been pointed out in this thread) that I don’t understand why it’s such a big issue. It’s strange to me.
 

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I haven’t rationalized anything. I’ve asked questions, stated that I’m not in favor of the current policy and am not a “leftist”....whatever that has to do with our conversation. I can actually not be in favor of the current policy and also say that it’s had such a minimal impact (1 out of 460,000 college athletes so far that have been pointed out in this thread) that I don’t understand why it’s such a big issue. It’s strange to me.
Sorry I said leftist. I don't have all the cases at my fingertips. I just posted the local accounts that I've heard about from reading the paper the last year or so. But if it's happening in this remote area, I'd guess there are many more examples. If not yet, just wait. Also, the example I posted about the Montana trans didn't just affect 1 person. It affected all women who who competed against that person.

I don't have time or really care to dig into this right now, but I've also heard that other states are banning this practice to protect their women athletes. Check this and you'll probably find other examples for these measures.
 
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Doesn’t affect you ? Maybe maybe not what would u do if you had a young daughter going to the bathroom while a grown man in a skirt goes in there right after her ? That’s unacceptable.
How about not being able to call someone Sir or ma’am without seriously “offending” them. There is two genders always will be. Miss me with that bs
Not true. There are people born with genitalia that is different than the chromosomal sex they are born into.
What they feel and how they choose to live their life is none of my business....or yours.
I get the argument regarding transgender participation in sports....but a true transgender male is no more of a danger to a girl in a bathroom than another woman would be.
A man in a dress who preys on little girls in the bathroom is a pedophile or a rapist......not a transgendered person.
Two completely different comparisons at play with your example.
 
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It really was not my intention to dive into this when I responded. But your tagline of "gay man wins gold" was simply not accurate. A simple google search: "Jenner came out as a trans woman, saying that she had dealt with gender dysphoria since an early age". That does not make her a gay man.
Gender dysphoria is the PC way of saying "this man has a mental illness."
 
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I want it to happen because the woke crowd deserves to get some comeuppance. Feminists cheering for this is just hilarious. There’s zero actual leadership to see how this inevitably goes. Everyone just caves out of fear.

It’s going to be entertaining to watch dudes kick the crap out of female basketball players and watch the females against it get chastised for being intolerant.

Announcers
“Oh wow! This is unbelievable! Lisa Mackey, who previously identified as Jamarcus, has set a new women’s record for points scored, dunks, blocked shots, and steals in a game. Magnificent!” - Doris Burke
 

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Not true. There are people born with genitala that is different than the chromosomal sex they are born into.
What they feel and how they choose to live their life is none of my business....or yours.
I get the argument regarding transgender participation in sports....but a true transgender male is no more of a danger to a girl in a bathroom than another woman would be.
A man in a dress who preys on little girls in the bathroom is a pedophile or a rapist......not a transgendered person.
Two completely different comparisons at play with your example.
Not true. There are people born with genitala that is different than the chromosomal sex they are born into.
What they feel and how they choose to live their life is none of my business....or yours.
I get the argument regarding transgender participation in sports....but a true transgender male is no more of a danger to a girl in a bathroom than another woman would be.
A man in a dress who preys on little girls in the bathroom is a pedophile or a rapist......not a transgendered person.
Two completely different comparisons at play with your example.
Um no most of the trans aren’t born with it. They decide to want to be it. Regardless it’s a MANNN
So just because a man is not up to no good he could have a pass to use the women’s restroom ? HELL NAHH terrible outlook.
 
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So if you chemically castrate a healthy young man, a college has to allow him to play with girls...

That's loss of essence. Talk about your Commie conspiracy.
Reminds me of fluoridation. I first became aware of it during the physical act of love.
Yes, a profound sense of fatigue... a feeling of emptiness followed.
Luckily I was able to interpret these feelings correctly.
Loss of essence.
I can assure you it has not recurred.
Women... women sense my power and they seek the life essence.
I do not avoid women. But I do deny them my essence.
Are you retarded?
 
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Um no most of the trans aren’t born with it. They decide to want to be it. Regardless it’s a MANNN
So just because a man is not up to no good he could have a pass to use the women’s restroom ? HELL NAHH terrible outlook.
A man up to no good in a women's restroom doesn't have a pass no matter what the law regarding transgender people is.
I have seen totally butch women that look like dudes go into women's restrooms. Are we going to make them drop their drawers in order to enter the bathroom? Do you really want a trans dude in a dress standing next to you at the urinal?
Making a big damn deal over this creates more problems than just letting people go about their life without the government and crazy Christians trying to tell everyone what bathroom to go into when they need to take a piss.
 
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Doesn’t affect you ? Maybe maybe not what would u do if you had a young daughter going to the bathroom while a grown man in a skirt goes in there right after her ? That’s unacceptable.
How about not being able to call someone Sir or ma’am without seriously “offending” them. There is two genders always will be. Miss me with that bs
Calling people sir and ma’am is really that big of a deal for you?
 

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Can we assume that your PhD is in
Social Sciences, Gender and Sexuality Studies?
There's a reason those programs are offered by the College of Arts and Letters and not the College of Science. They're not science. They're pseudoscience.

A lot of unfounded leftist ******** originates from idiots in those departments, and they have no science to support their conclusions.
 
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Um no most of the trans aren’t born with it. They decide to want to be it. Regardless it’s a MANNN
So just because a man is not up to no good he could have a pass to use the women’s restroom ? HELL NAHH terrible outlook.
And what do you think is stopping a male from going into a women’s restroom now? Is there some magical force field, a bouncer, or an enforcer that I’m not aware of that prevents me and every other male in existence from potentially entering a women’s restroom?

If a male wants to go into a restroom to pray on females, he’ll go in no matter what the rules and laws are.
 

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And what do you think is stopping a male from going into a women’s restroom now? Is there some magical force field, a bouncer, or an enforcer that I’m not aware of that prevents me and every other male in existence from potentially entering a women’s restroom?
We used to have a shared sense of decency in our society that prevented all but the mentally deficient and outright perverts from doing it. Not as much anymore. Yet another effort to erode society by the left.
 

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And what do you think is stopping a male from going into a women’s restroom now? Is there some magical force field, a bouncer, or an enforcer that I’m not aware of that prevents me and every other male in existence from potentially entering a women’s restroom?

If a male wants to go into a restroom to pray on females, he’ll go in no matter what the rules and laws are.
BUT there are consequences and it’s forbidden someone will report it or take action. BUT when it’s normalized that’s a problem.
 
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If not, I am free to dismiss his opinion an just an ignorant statement. But if, in fact, his PhD is in that field of study, then I would defer to his statement as educated fact.
It's not but I linked to the mayo clinic. It's classified differently now and called GD instead of gender identity disorder, but it's still tested by the DSM-5 test. Like other disorders.
 

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The last time we had a thread on this topic (2 months ago?), I don't remember anybody posting to support it. Now they seem to be coming out of the woodwork. Shows how quickly the PC normalization process works.

While sad, it's interesting watching a pathological religion gain momentum, especially among those who pride themselves as being great objective critical thinkers immune to such nonsense. You guys are no better than any fundy cultist preaching on a street corner. Much worse actually.
 

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Our state legislature has passed a law banning it. No doubt our governor will sign it so I guess the NCAA will pull all tournaments and bowl games from our state. Which is fine with our residents. Hold the bowl games somewhere else. Anything that might slow down our growth would be a good thing. If people don't want to move here because we know the difference between a man and a woman. Fine
Yeah. I'd like to see Kentucky pass a bill here as well. No place for any of this nonsense.
 
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To me the best thing that could happen is that UK goes out and gets 13 top 100 boys high school players, say they are trans, then dominate the women's sport for the next few championships. :)
They'd be one and done to WNBA
 

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"Trust the Science"--unless related to biology, genetics, then it's "Trust My Truth on what Science is".

Don't think it'll matter too much but it's just pathetic how people have bought into this "my truth" bull****. You are a man or a woman. Whatever you decide to do sexually or socially is your business. It doesn't offend me but I won't apologize for not giving a ****.
Amen!
 
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If not, I am free to dismiss his opinion an just an ignorant statement. But if, in fact, his PhD is in that field of study, then I would defer to his statement as educated fact.
It's a sports message board dude. I seriously doubt if anyone here has a PhD in most topics discussed. Get over yourself.
 

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Willing to cut your wang off to pad your stats in the paint or to hit from the front tees? It's time for a remake!!