They did not.
They passed a law that would allow transgenders to use the appropriate restroom. There have been about 4 incidents nationwide that fall into the gray area of how such ordinances have been taken advantage of before.
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They passed a law that would allow transgenders to use the appropriate restroom. There have been about 4 incidents nationwide that fall into the gray area of how such ordinances have been taken advantage of before.
it will cost them the election this fall , I hope. This was not the only dumb law. How about having to get a judge to force police to show video footage after a shooting. I was not happy with democrats running the state for so long either. 36th in per capita, but, 17th highest taxed state. Can we have a 3d choice sometime??
Sorry, I doubt the majority of those opposed to HB2 have such a callow disregard for civil liberties and the Constitution.
Sky thats an easy one as I really liked Leslie Neilson and my hero was the Swamp Fox. During the 1st and 2nd grade my cousin and I actually took turns each day being the Swamp Fox at recess/lunch time. No other kids ever tried to take the role from us because it was our idea and we liked to fight and kill indians. I was surprised when Neilson reappeared many years later in the comedies of the Naked Gun movies and it didn't seem right at first but I enjoyed them as well.
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How or why I would expect civility? You can have opposing views and still have a civil discussion. That's how or why I would expect civility.
It is my ------> opinion <------ that this is not a civil rights issue. What's next, reducing the legal age for consensual sex because some people are attracted to younger girls/boys? We call those people perverts. But what if there is a call for their "civil rights"? Are we going to fight for them and say that the word pervert is offensive and insensitive? I am sure that the number of people who are attracted to younger girls/boys is a good bit higher than the number or trannies. But for good reason, we're not out there throwing around the civil rights card for them.
Just my opinion, but equating the two is pretty offensive.
Exactly. People who don't think that the NCAA and also the ACC are pandering to a political stance are fooling themselves. If the state had passed a law where anyone could use any bathroom of their choice and it had a huge outcry against it locally, I seriously doubt they would step in. They would call it "progressive".
We have a president in office that basically laughs at states rights to govern themselves and it has created a political environment that encourages out of state organizations to influence local politics.
I also find it amusing how many people who don't live in the state are so passionate about who our governor is or will be.
It is an example. Not equating the two. You know that after we move on from this, the next "civil rights issue" will be fought for. What's it going to be?
When the state's violate federal law, what do you expect him to do? The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution exists for a reason.
Poor example in my opinion.
Well, do you disagree that after we move on from this, there will be another issue that is in dire need of change? What is it going to be?
C'mon Mark. You and I don't always see eye to eye. But you are still one of the smartest people that I interact with. You can come up with something.
He's scared to say because it'll be either what you stated and pedophiles having weird rights or people able to marry more than one person.
And he's offended now. I'm offended that men wanna use the bathroom with my sister, mom, fiancé.
Also this law DOESNT go against federal law. We have no law allowing men in women's facilities. And stop acting like it's not opening that door for serious damages
And he's offended now. I'm offended that men wanna use the bathroom with my sister, mom, fiancé.
Also this law DOESNT go against federal law. We have no law allowing men in women's facilities. And stop acting like it's not opening that door for serious damages
You think someone else wanting rights later is a reason to deny rights now? How would that have worked in the '60s? "We can't let Black people marry White people because next the gays will want to get married!"
Why don't you stick to the merits of this one and worry about the next thing when it comes up? Or better yet, anticipate the next one and the one after that and the one after that and speed up the process?
You're not being civil, though. You're dismissing interest in other's rights as politically motivated. You're insinuating a slippery slope connecting transgenders to pedophiles. You're calling transgenders "trannies," which is a slur. You're in cahoots here with people who continue to claim transwomen are "men in dresses."
Nobody called trannies pedophiles we said it opens the door WIDE open for any male to go in the women's bathroom or girls locker room
The next civil rights fight is irrelevant to this one. I don't know what it will be, either. I didn't anticipate the transgender community would be next after marriage equality. We probably need to revisit the treatment of Black people with greater focus, though that really shouldn't be waiting for a turn that never seems to come up. I have no interest in talking about that in this thread that is specific to HB2, and it's detrimental to the tone of this discussion for you to assume things like someone's being scared to say, then to draw the connection stronger that 301 was trying to back away from between transgenders and pedophiles, insinuating Mark has some agenda to keep that under wraps.
When you say "men" want to use the same restroom as all the women in your life, are you referring to transwomen?
I didn't say he said that. Reread.
It doesn't open the door at all for men to go into women's restrooms. The only confirmed example of that nationwide is the man in Seattle who opposed the law and went into a women's locker room just to sabotage the law. You are concerned about something hypothetical that has not happened anywhere despite such laws existing in some places for 20 years.
The sad thing is we've turned into a nation where anything goes. You're not allowed to have an opinion if it offends someone. This nation needs to get back to being one nation under God. I guess our forefathers in government had no morals either, as someone else stated.
You might me a PC liberal if the word trannies offends you but men in girls bathrooms doesnt
That's not the standard for what makes something a slur. I think you're very well aware of that.
It's simple decency and respect not to call people by slurs after you've been informed that certain terms are slurs. Being PC or liberal has nothing to do with it.
Again, I ask, when you say "men in girls bathrooms," are you referring to transwomen?
I can think of lots of things that are completely unacceptable and always will be. It is faith that leads many to advocate for the least among us who are oppressed, maligned, or otherwise persecuted.
If your opinion is offensive, the offended person has just as much right to their opinion as you have to yours. There are natural consequences of that. Always have been. And opinions that intrude on others' rights aren't really mere opinion in the first place. They've converted to actions at that point, and that's an even clearer, more obvious area where natural consequences apply.
Guess what? Charlotte would still have the NBA All Star game, the ACC football championship, the state of NC would still have the ACC and NCAA tourney games, PayPal would have set up shop, Bruce Springsteen and Pearl Jam would still have bad their concerts if THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE DIDNT FEEL THE NEED TO PASS A LAW THAT WAS A NON ISSUE TO BEGIN WITH. HB2 wouldn't have even been birthed.
100% accurate! It was them that started it and a child molester at that!
I have stated that I do not consider this to be a civil rights issue. So it does nothing for me to try and compare it to actual civil rights issues.
To me, this issue has as much merit as the potential next ones. To compare this to the civil rights movement of the 1960's is more ridiculous than me giving the pedophile comparison.
You and Mark have a different definition of civil than I do. I have remained civil despite having different views than others. Having different views does not make you uncivil.
I have used the word trannies about everywhere. You are the very first person who has accused me of using a slur. And I am offended so apologize.
you are spot on with this. I have been saying the same thing all along. Nobody wants to blame Charlotte because they are liberal-they were also a sanctuary city until the legislature outlawed it.. Everyone wants to blame McCrory because he is a republican and signed into law HB-2. Just don't blame liberal Charlotte for creating a problem where none existed before. I really think they did this knowing what would happen in Raleigh. Guess it worked for them .. Hope they lose a billion dollars.
And NC would still hold those events if Governor McCrory didn't pass the FIRST & ONLY state law in this country which overrides local Transgender laws.
No other state has a law similar to HB2.
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