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UIAlumFireFighter

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Sorry for being obtuse, but point me in the direction of any non-1 seed school that doesn't have limitations outside of 2 star players. I'll eagerly await anyone's overreaction response.
The other 2 and 3 seeds dominated with 20+ point wins.

Iowa’s limitations are way more glaring and significant than these other programs it seems.
 

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Sorry for being obtuse, but point me in the direction of any non-1 seed school that doesn't have limitations outside of 2 star players. I'll eagerly await anyone's overreaction response.
You just proved my point and reinforced my argument. You’re right. Iowa doesn’t have a backcourt good enough to elevate into one of those special programs / 1 seeds. It’s hard to do. But that’s the objective.
 
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It’s hard to admit since this team is a 2 seed and finished 2nd in the B10 but CCW and Stremlow should be solid backups at a program with serious aspirations of elevating into one of those special programs.

AH (and HS to a lesser degree) hides this roster’s limitations in a MAJOR way.
You're the poster who started the thread freaking out about Jensen's use of Deal, correct?
 

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CC has clouded the minds of lots of fans. Also a fellow 2 seed was shellacked twice by this very team this season. If for some reason Iowa wins on Monday by more than 10 will all of the overreactors proclaim this version of Iowa to be better than either of the championship squads? After all that's something even they were incapable of doing. (I'm well aware this team doesn’t have the ceiling of either of those teams but what Iowa squad does without the greatest college basketball player of all time?)
 

UIAlumFireFighter

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CC has clouded the minds of lots of fans. Also a fellow 2 seed was shellacked twice by this very team this season. If for some reason Iowa wins on Monday by more than 10 will all of the overreactors proclaim this version of Iowa to be better than either of the championship squads? After all that's something even they were incapable of doing. (I'm well aware this team doesn’t have the ceiling of either of those teams but what Iowa squad does without the greatest college basketball player of all time?)
They looked like sh*t, Sir.
 
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I also suspect JJ difficulty in receuiting top perimeter plates may have something to do with her style of play and one dimensional post offense. We shall see.

Just glad the Hawks have AH!
Nice job throwing (5 * recruit) under the bus bus. Remember stating this:

No reason she shouldn’t be starting or getting 25 mins a game. Iowa just does not have enough firepower or dynamic playmaking on the perimeter and wing. And she has all of it.
 

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Agreed they need at least one for sure. I think the combo of an improved Addie, Chit Chat, Taylor, and player X is a good guard rotation. If player X is not, you must add a three point specialist that can replace McCabe off the bench a few years ago.
I've posted before that an athletic Kylie
 

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I also suspect JJ difficulty in receuiting top perimeter plates may have something to do with her style of play and one dimensional post offense. We shall see.

Just glad the Hawks have AH!
Well, she had one of the top 3 shooters in the country 5 minutes from campus, Averie Lower, didn’t offer, so Molly Miller and ASU will get to enjoy coaching her.
 

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You're the poster who started the thread freaking out about Jensen's use of Deal, correct?
Good rational response.

and yes I sure wish Deal was further along. Could have used her today.
Jan ran a four guard offense last year that ran through Lucy. I don't know why you keep ignoring that.
She had Lucy who could create. But she fed HS a ton in that offense as well as AH when she started to play more. It’s obviously where JJ is most comfy. And they lost in the R32.

But the point is the same. Just not enough perimeter firepower and athleticism to elevate at this point. And they didn’t have it last year either.

The next couple recruiting classes post 2026 will be critical. Will also be interesting to see the level of perimeter portal talent they can attract this year.
 
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IowaCityLit

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CC has clouded the minds of lots of fans. Also a fellow 2 seed was shellacked twice by this very team this season. If for some reason Iowa wins on Monday by more than 10 will all of the overreactors proclaim this version of Iowa to be better than either of the championship squads? After all that's something even they were incapable of doing. (I'm well aware this team doesn’t have the ceiling of either of those teams but what Iowa squad does without the greatest college basketball player of all time?)
This is a shortsighted and just ignorant assertion.

Iowa bball made the elite 8 and won the Big 10 prior to CC. Just weren’t consistently at that level. Without CC the goal would have been to elevate. CC brought attention to the incredible fan support, family culture, and commitment to supporting women’s bball. Also highlighted Iowa City as an attractive community for female athletes.

Iowa realistically should feel it can get there. No shame in aspiring to that.
 

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This is a shortsighted and just ignorant assertion.

Iowa bball made the elite 8 and won the Big 10 prior to CC. Just weren’t consistently at that level. Without CC the goal would have been to elevate. CC brought attention to the incredible fan support, family culture, and commitment to supporting women’s bball. Also highlighted Iowa City as an attractive community for female athletes.

Iowa realistically should feel it can get there. No shame in aspiring to that.
I'm not arguing they shouldn't aspire to greater things, but historically Iowa isn't on that level and there's nothing wrong with saying that either. Over the last 30 years Iowa has been to the elite 8 or better 3 times. They've won the regular season conference title 4 times over that same time frame. Even with CC the best they could accomplish in conference was a shared title with a team they lost to. The more things change the more they stay the same.
 

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Stuelke has been a monster rebounder for years Losing her will leave a big hole in the lineup so finding a PF transfer who is a proven rebounder is VIP in my opinion, especially if Rodriguez leaves.

I am a big fan of Journey Houston. Still, the B10 is loaded with tall posts and forwards. Need another banger.
 
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It’s hard to admit since this team is a 2 seed and finished 2nd in the B10 but CCW and Stremlow should be solid backups at a program with serious aspirations of elevating into one of those special programs.

AH (and HS to a lesser degree) hides this roster’s limitations in a MAJOR way.
Yeah we're not a top 4-5 team - just shows the OVERALL talent gap in the sport, not any shortcoming of one team
 

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I have commented often about the need for more shooters and still believe that HOWEVER, I believe our biggest need is to replace Kylie defensively. With the present roster and only McKenna coming in I see no one on the roster capable of shutting down, or at least controlling, the great perimeter players in the Big 10. Chit is good but too small. Taylor’s strengths are not guarding the ball but anticipation and gambling to create havoc. Addie is probably our most improved defender and plays good position “D” but is not quick enough for the task. If we can’t find a “stopper” I’m pretty sure we will not be hosting for the NCAA next year.
 

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if Deal doesn't develop dramatically over the summer we are really going to struggle scoring from outside
 
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I'm not arguing they shouldn't aspire to greater things, but historically Iowa isn't on that level and there's nothing wrong with saying that either. Over the last 30 years Iowa has been to the elite 8 or better 3 times. They've won the regular season conference title 4 times over that same time frame. Even with CC the best they could accomplish in conference was a shared title with a team they lost to. The more things change the more they stay the same.
I think this is true.
 

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Gotta have a new starting backcourt next year. And if Deal hasn’t developed, new starters at 1-2-3 assuming Mc plays the 4.
 

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Even Chit Chat?
Love her. She was invaluable and I’m not sure where Iowa would have been without her.

But she’s 5-4. She’s maxed her ceiling and just has too many size limitations that limit her against athletic teams. And now there might be some question about her mental toughness. With the 2 missed FTs and subsequent meltdown it was painful to watch.

Iowa, if they want to elevate, must get harsh and hardcore about their roster assessment.
 
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Love her. She was invaluable and I’m not sure where Iowa would have been without her.

But she’s 5-4. She’s maxed her ceiling and just has too many size limitations that limit her against athletic teams. And now there might be some question about her mental toughness. With the 2 missed FTs and subsequent meltdown it was painful to watch.

Iowa, if they want to elevate, must get harsh and hardcore about their roster assessment.

I think Chit Chat was gassed. I don't think her height is as big of a detriment against most teams. I would look to the other guards that combined for like 10 points... if that.
 

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The Mcabe injury was a problem losing a veteran at a thin position. Addie was also expected to be an impact player, a sure fire productive starter and it just wasn't the case. There are a lot of holes in her game right now. It doesn't mean she won't figure it out but you would be foolish to go into next season counting on her to fill a big role. I think you need to fill the need first and if she gets on track too then great.