First, I'd argue Florida is a better job than Georgia. Second, 50/50 isn't a bet. Means it could go either way. If you really feel confident then make it 80/20 or 90/10.
Neuheisel says Briles to Auburn
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First, I'd argue Florida is a better job than Georgia. Second, 50/50 isn't a bet. Means it could go either way. If you really feel confident then make it 80/20 or 90/10.
I guess when your talking schools uGA, UF, LSU etc... in football its apples and oranges and now that I think about it I would give UF the edge due to more championships etc... And yeah I guess If LSU makes the right pitch and does come calling I would go 80/20. That would be a force Petrino at LSU and I would take that job over AU thats just me. Even Petrino at UF would be scary good.
I find it hard to believe that P would leave again so fast, but I do believe he will have plenty of suitors calling this off season and every off season going forward.
He's riding the gravy train right now with LJ and could run the ACC and have an easy road to a heisman trophy and play off next year as well.
He can afford to wait.
USC west coast could open up after next season.
You never know about Saban, he could leave for any big time gig. Maybe he bounces for USC if Helton struggles again next year, or Notre Dame should Brian Kelly get bounced or leave for the league, and Bama goes after sneaky P.
I've always thought Harbaugh would want another shot in the NFL, maybe he bounces in a couple seasons. P at Michigan vs Meyer...that's big time...
I also wouldn't totally rule out the NFL, there are a lot of franchises with coaches who couldn't sniff a sneaky p fart...
He's riding the gravy train right now with LJ and could run the ACC and have an easy road to a heisman trophy and play off next year as well.
He can afford to wait.
USC west coast could open up after next season.
You never know about Saban, he could leave for any big time gig. Maybe he bounces for USC if Helton struggles again next year, or Notre Dame should Brian Kelly get bounced or leave for the league, and Bama goes after sneaky P.
I've always thought Harbaugh would want another shot in the NFL, maybe he bounces in a couple seasons. P at Michigan vs Meyer...that's big time...
I also wouldn't totally rule out the NFL, there are a lot of franchises with coaches who couldn't sniff a sneaky p fart...
Petrino would be gone to any SEC school in a heartbeat. He stated years ago it was his dream to coach in the SEC. If we'd make the offer, he'd leave UL for us. The question is, do the SEC schools and leadership have an unwritten agreement not to hire him?
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A couple of kids UGA recruited pretty hard ended up signing with SoCal, rumor is both are looking to get out and get back home. I went to one of their boards and they are hearing the same thing about the kids. But to the coaching end of it they want Helton gone now, not at the end of the year, not after the 17 season, but right now. Interesting enough, they are not at all happy with Tee Martin and his work as OC which they gave him to keep his recruiting. But to a person on the board, they want Herman and are willing to make him the highest paid coach in college.
Auburn is so pathetic.
It will be another "System" coordinator that knows the "auburn way".
They'll hire some guy named Hugh Deltoni, former auburn assistant or player or some ish, currently coaching at SCLSU and somehow he will come in and pull top 10 classes and we just keep on goin babay!!!
If he leaves Louisville in the next 5 years I will personally apologize to every anti-Petrino uk fan on this board. Personally. I'll come to them. All of them, with tea.
He's not going anywhere. His rep is terrible and Louisville is in the ACC now, power 5 and fairly easy to ride. They can pay him and he can do whatever he wants.
UK ( Mitch) made a mistake that unfortunately will haunt uk football for decades.
That ship has sailed.
Petrino would pee his pants laughing at Mitch today.
This was a stepping stone job for BP at his lowest point.
I never understand why some of our fans think coaches with teams in the Top 5 would leave to come here just because we are in the SEC (without a winning league record for decades).
Maybe but you're forgetting the whole Whoregate thing. The school prez who hired BP's already gone, will Jurich eventually be next? If that happens it leaves BP naked in front of the world and I doubt that's where he wants to be.
If the Auburn and LSU jobs come open at the end of the season, I wouldn't be surprised to see Auburn go after Les Miles and LSU go after Bobby Petrino.
There are a lot of people in Baton Rouge (I know as I have a lot of family down there) who are vocally pushing for Miles to be fired and the school to target Petrino.
There are a lot of people in Baton Rouge (I know as I have a lot of family down there) who are vocally pushing for Miles to be fired and the school to target Petrino.
I hate to admit it, but it sure looks like fun!
It would cost LSU over $20 million to get Petrino (paying Miles' buyout plus Petrino's buyout) before he was paid to coach in his first game.
Whatever they are, Briles has already admitted he made mistakes and apologized for them.
All those words and you can't say what he's accused of doing. Just everyone knows. What exactly is it that Briles knew? Did a player rape a girl, admit it to Briles, then he tried to intimidate the victim and get her to not contact the police? I cant see a guy saying, hey coach, I raped a girl, I need you to take care of it for me. What exactly did he do?
Ok..here goes. I will attempt to spell this out once again.
No, we do not...100% factually, hand in the cookie jar, caught red-handed know with absolute certainty that former Baylor Head Coach Art Briles actively knew about and aided in the cover up of multiple sexual assaults and rapes during his tenure as the head football coach at Baylor University. This is true. I guess that's what you wanted? I don't know? To me it seems that your entire stance is, "well he hasn't been proven guilty yet." Which is true but I'm not sure thats the point right now. He's "tainted" and its not something minor that's tainting him, its multiple rapes and his ability to run a football program thats being questioned.
My point in all of this and why I don't understand why you keep asking people to tell you what he's "done" is that nobody is saying he's been proven complicit in all of this. But the fact remains that this happened on his watch. Now his involvement does and hopefully will be determined whether it be good or bad for him, it should be determined. Once those facts come out then he can be looked at as a viable head coaching candidate but as it stands now no school should touch Briles with a 10-foot pole. This isn't a minor, ridiculous NCAA rule breaking...this is multiple sexual assaults being committed and covered up under his watch and his general ability to manage a football program. There were crimes being committed by at least 1 player that he was warned about and took anyway. These are serious accusations and should be taken seriously....why any athletic department would take the risk on hiring Art Briles right now is beyond me and I'll be shocked if any program even gives him a sniff until more information is released on this.
Athletic Directors at major programs take the hiring of a football coach seriously and its statements like the one below that make me question the likelihood of seeing Briles on the sidelines next year.
An independent review of the Baylor football program and the larger university included this damaging statement: "Pepper's findings also reflect significant concerns about the tone and culture within Baylor's football program as it relates to accountability for all forms of athlete misconduct."
Texas is one of the bluebloods, but it isn't the job it was 10 years ago. Mack Brown had his recruiting class filled by the start of summer yearly, basically with the kids in Texas he wanted. OU would end up with a few of the top 25, but for the most part Texas got who they wanted. Now with their time being less than the best team in Texas, kids now don't remember those days when Texas was the big dog in Texas. Now A&M, Baylor, TCU and even Houston are battling for the same kids, and OU is still getting their few top guys. But the big thing is, alot more of Texas's top kids are leaving the state than they ever have. So even with the huge number of D1 kids Texas produces, so many schools are recruiting it the talent is getting diluted, Texas now has to fight just like everyone else to sign those kids and they are losing alot of those battles.
Coaches, with championship rings, on the hot seat if they can't win nine or ten games a year. It is truly a crazy world...
So he's not complicit but he is responsible for the actions of his players? If that's the case there's prolly about 100 more coaches that need to be fired and starting with your boy Bobby Petrino with all the thugs he's brought in.
Maybe you don't know about Auburn's history. They're probably the most punished school in college football history. They made winning at all cost an art form before UL was UL. Gotta beat Bama, don't have time for such trivial things as world peace, 100% employment and ending hunger...first things first.
I honestly don't understand what ground you're standing on and I'm starting to think you may just be trolling.
Let me put it to you this way:
Ok, lets say you own a pizza hut and you need a manager. Now, you know there's a manager out there who was very successful at managing a pizza hut across town but he was recently fired because the employees were allowed to do whatever they wanted and it had been proven that his employees were sexually assaulting customers and his assistant managers and other employees were covering it up. It hasn't been proven that he knew about the assaults or the cover up yet but he was fired all the same because of how little control he had over the discipline of his employees and the business.
Are you going to hire that guy to manage your pizza hut right now? Or are you just going to find somebody else and wait to let the court of law figure out how much involvement he had?
Why would Petrino go anywhere? He's getting gobs of money, his conference (warranted or not) is perceived as having enough competition (FSU, Clemson, Miami, sorta Notre Dame) to get you into the college football playoff. This isn't 10 years ago, all you have to do now is be a top 4 team. Crazy as it sounds, so long as he keep pulling in guys like Jackson, Louisville represents his easiest path to a title. Going to Auburn gives you an SEC schedule and the stigma of being second in your state. I can't see any good reason for him to take that job.
I don't care if you bring Jesus Christ himself in as AD, no one in the multiverse could fire Petrino right now without being thrown into the sun by the fan base.
True, but don't think that Auburn isn't in a bit of desperation mode at the moment.
Because they've been competitive in many games, people don't realize that they are 3-12 against their last 15 Power Five opponents, and one of those three wins was against us last year.
For comparison, KY is 4-14 against their last 18 Power Five opponents.
No, they aren't. LSU *maybe*. Both represent a much harder path to the final four. You still have to go through Alabama, and as long as Saban is there, that's too big of a challenge to overcome most of the time. When they're back up fully, you have to play Florida, Tenn, or Georgia in the SEC title game, IF you get there. You have to play a top 25 team nearly every week. Will it make you the best football team? Yeah, maybe. In the era of "just get to the final four and hope to win 2 games" being the BEST football team doesn't matter. What matters is getting there, getting there healthy, and try to steal a couple games. The path at Louisville is 100x easier than Auburn or LSU right now.
I can think of one thing that makes either of these jobs better: LSU's built in recruiting base. Other than that, name ONE thing that makes Auburn or LSU better than UL right now in terms of trying to win a title.
The conference is actually the ONE thing I see as a potential negative as far as National Championship.
As you said recruiting base cannot be understated, legacy, tradition, fan support, deep pocket alumni and boosters... I just dont see the advantages for UL other than weaker conference and less pressure.
Deep pockets won't be a problem. As much as Louisville fudges their athletic profits, they make plenty of money to keep Petrino. Auburn will be #2 in recruiting to Alabama so long as lord and god Saban is there. LSU does have a much better built in recruiting base, but with the way recruiting is so national these days, it's less advantageous. Everyone is on TV, everyone gets players from everywhere. Hell, LSU is all screwy right now even with that talent advantage.
Even while down, the SEC is a murderer's row. Lamar Jackson would have a burst spleen in this league. But that doesn't matter to the voters. Get to the final four. Get there healthy. And Petrino is still one of the very best at scheming around superior talent in a one game situation. Jurich rules the town and Bobby probably has his own indoor motorcycle track to take volleyball players for a ride. Why trade all this in for two programs that both have either fired or want to fire a guy who won a title?
Petrino is perfect for Louisville, and Louisville athletics is perfect for Petrino. It's a match made in somewhere that isn't heaven.
LSU and AU are way better programs just this season UL is having a better one. LSU will all ways be a power schools like UL etc will have years of great seasons years of no so great. LSU recruiting grounds are way better than UL's by far. You can stay within 100 miles of LSU campus and pull in a top 10 class year and tear out.
Moral U - instead, we have writers giggling at us as the complete laughing stock in college football. The little engine that couldn't.
Hey, at least we're losing the RIGHT way. By 45 on the road, and at home to conference USA teams. We went about it the RIGHT way. That old Bobby Petrino, he's gonna have Louisville in the playoffs this year. That's right, that slime ball will have Louisville fans rejoicing. Meanwhile, we'll be trying to find another article that paints Petrino in a negative light, so that we can race to the message boards, plaster it, and be the first loser to say "HEY LOOK!! I told you so!"
It's great to be a UK Football fan! We're just flat out too good for Petrino. Let's continue losing the RIGHT way.
I agree with the recruiting part, but I don't believe that, in terms of winning a title, LSU and Auburn have any advantage at all over Louisville. I do agree that they probably have a better chance at a consistent program.
The reason everyone was clamoring to get into the SEC years ago was that if you won it, you were pretty much guaranteed a spot in the national championship game. With the way the BCS and voting system was, you needed that competition to convince the computers you were the best, even with one or even two losses.
Well that's all out now. Sure, winning the SEC will still almost certainly get you in the final 4... heck even coming in second in the SEC can get you there. But once you're there, you've got the same chances as someone who went 12-1 in the ACC or 13-0 in the Pac-12. They won't fill the FF up with four SEC teams even if they should. So what's the point in killing yourself in the SEC when it comes down to two coin flips? That's why I don't see Petrino leaving Louisville and the ACC for a SEC job. The value of an SEC isn't what it once was.
Agree with most, especially Petrino being perfect for UL and Jackson's spleen.
No, I wouldn't hire that guy but that doesn't apply to Briles. He did not allow his players to rape women and do whayever they want. Im guessing he was against it. There is no evidence to suggest he wasnt and no evidence to suggest he or any of his assistants covered up rapes.
That's like saying Mark Stoops allowed Jason Hatcher to sell drugs and do whatever he wanted. You can spin it that way if you choose to.
Not quite sure the SEC Commish will allow this to happen. May be wrong, just don't see it. After the transfer rules of certain players, not sure how the SEC can then allow a coach who allowed this to happen under his watch totally ignoring what was happening and trying to cover it up to coach in this league. Again, may be totally wrong, but I don't think any way Sanky will allow this.