New bill about to be submitted to the House on NIL.

mcdawg22

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I wonder how much student fees contribute to our budget.


As I laboriously pointed out in our Group Text I don’t think it will be that significant if we are just talking about the activities fee. It’s $25 a semester for 23,000 students so $575,000. A large chunk of that goes to Sanderson, Activities, Homecoming etc so who knows how much goes to athletics.
That is assuming the All Sports package for students is truly a ticket that goes straight to athletics and not considered an academic fee. I would think it’s alotted as an athletic ticket.
 
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patdog

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SCOTUS doesn't get to just second guess

SCOTUS cannot just second guess Congress' actions. It can rule on Constitutionality of a statute, or interpretation issues.
That’s a nice theory. In practice the courts can do whatever they want to. Subject only to a higher court overturning it. The Supreme Court has no check or balance. It is the ultimate ruling authority in this country.
 
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Maroon13

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We have federal and state regulations and laws in this country that limit free market on gambling, prostitution, kickbacks for contracts, selling of drugs etc etc.

Why isn't giving a kid $millions in faux NIl deals to chose a school, a bribe and therefore illegal?

if paying kids millions to chose a school is just NIL, then mawshoemaker should open back up because all those girls were capitalizing off their Image and likeness. Ha.
 
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Dawgzilla2

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That’s a nice theory. In practice the courts can do whatever they want to. Subject only to a higher court overturning it. The Supreme Court has no check or balance. It is the ultimate ruling authority in this country.
Agree to disagree. In my experience, Federal Judges provide a legal basis for their decisions, particularly in matters like this that don't really have a political angle.

In this particular political climate, checks on the judiciary are difficult. In our history, the Supreme Court has been checked by threats to expand the Court and pack it with judges who would rule differently, or just straight up Constitutional Amendments. Congress could check the Court via impeachment, but that's never been done.(one Justice was impeached, but it was for being a jerk...the Senate acquitted).

While SCOTUS has made some really unexpected rulings before, this really doesn't seem like an area where it would flex it's muscle. There could be some legit legal issues, though.
 

patdog

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Agree to disagree. In my experience, Federal Judges provide a legal basis for their decisions, particularly in matters like this that don't really have a political angle.

In this particular political climate, checks on the judiciary are difficult. In our history, the Supreme Court has been checked by threats to expand the Court and pack it with judges who would rule differently, or just straight up Constitutional Amendments. Congress could check the Court via impeachment, but that's never been done.(one Justice was impeached, but it was for being a jerk...the Senate acquitted).

While SCOTUS has made some really unexpected rulings before, this really doesn't seem like an area where it would flex it's muscle. There could be some legit legal issues, though.
If that were the case, few court rulings would be overturned & most Supreme Court rulings would be 9-0 or 8-1. Tue fact they’ve already ruled against any restrictions on complete athlete freedom & free agency gives a clue how they’d rule if/when this bill is challenged.
 

Dawgzilla2

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If that were the case, few court rulings would be overturned & most Supreme Court rulings would be 9-0 or 8-1. Tue fact they’ve already ruled against any restrictions on complete athlete freedom & free agency gives a clue how they’d rule if/when this bill is challenged.
No, judges can disagree on interpretations and applications of the law. That's why we have litigation in the first place, people see things from different points of view. Just because a district judge gets reversed...which happens less than 10% of the time...does not mean the district or appellate court were "doing whatever they want." They just didn't agree.

Also from my experience, Federal District judges HATE to be reversed. They try to write sound opinions backed by law.

The rulings against restrictions on free agency, etc. are based on anti trust laws. You take anti trust out of the equation and it's a completely different landscape.
 

HailStout

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The State atht dept is the only school in the conference that does not accept student fees further research has yielded.
I am admittedly not very educated on this, but on the surface I am happy about this fact. I’m sure someone will tell me why I am wrong
 

mcdawg22

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I am admittedly not very educated on this, but on the surface I am happy about this fact. I’m sure someone will tell me why I am wrong
My issue with it would have been that we also pay for our athletic scholarships. So if money was being routed to academics from athletics for that, why would we route fees from academics to athletics. That made absolutely no sense to me.
 

dawgstudent

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I am admittedly not very educated on this, but on the surface I am happy about this fact. I’m sure someone will tell me why I am wrong
We start between $5-10 mllion behind the 8 ball than our other conference members is what I found.
 
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