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Larry Johnson was not offered "the exact same job" by Franklin that he had under Paterno and O'Brien. While I'm not privy to his thinking, that could have been sufficient reason for him to leave Penn State.
Larry Johnson was hired by Urban Meyer.
He was undeniably the best defensive line coach in the country. Are you saying CJF offered him a lesser position? If so, I didn't know that. What could CJF have offered him that's lower than a position coach?
An "assistant" position coach. My impression was that Franklin did not want Larry Johnson around.
I think the big issue was simply that Franklin essentially brought nearly his entire staff from Vanderbilt with him. I doubt that Franklin specifically "selected" Johnson as a guy he didn't want to keep.
Back then you could only have a 9 man coaching staff. Franklin brought 7 of his guys from Vandy:
OC - John Donovan
QB - Ricky Rahne
WR - Josh Gattis
OL - Herb Hand
DC - Bob Shoop
DL - Sean Spencer
LB - Brent Pry
The only guys Franklin did not bring with him from Vandy were George Barlow (a DB coach who went to NC State), and Charles Bankins (a Special Teams coach who stayed on at Vandy to be a RB coach).
Franklin needed a RB coach and a DB coach to complete his PSU staff. So Franklin filled out his staff with:
RB - Charlie Huff (Western Michigan)
DB - Terry Smith (Temple)
I guess I don’t, which is why I’m asking. Are we supposed to feel bad for them because they lost their coach? Help a brother out here.
EDIT: I added additional context in my reply to @LionJim below.
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I guess. I totally understand why ISU players (and fans) might be upset. But what I don’t get is why I, or any Penn State fan, should now be pulling for them. Is it because they lost a well-liked coach, or because we now have their well-liked coach?
Did PSU fans feel this way about Vandy when Franklin was hired? I know I didn’t (even though I do find myself rooting for them now). Do VT fans feel this way about PSU?
It’s college football. Coaches come and go all the time. To me, it’s like if the CEO of AMD left to run Nvidia. While AMD employees might be disappointed, as an Nvidia shareholder, I’m not going to go out and buy AMD stock and hope the company’s earnings beat expectations.
Oh well, I guess I should just be happy that Duke beat Virginia in overtime to win the ACC Championship last night, even if they will be screwed out of the playoffs.
He took "the exact same job" that he had under Paterno and O'Brien because he wasn't offered "the same exact job" by Franklin. Are you faulting s person who was dismissed or demoted for finding gainful employment elsewhere?
He wasn't demoted or asked to leave. They wanted him to stay. He wanted to be the HC.
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