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donaldfair71

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Also, the people criticizing Terry Smith for some of his coaching mistakes should also think back to how horrible Franklin was with his timeouts and time management his first couple years at Penn State. It took Franklin a few years to figure it out so maybe we can give Smith some slack after only a couple games.
He never figured them out.
 

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Also, the people criticizing Terry Smith for some of his coaching mistakes should also think back to how horrible Franklin was with his timeouts and time management his first couple years at Penn State. It took Franklin a few years to figure it out so maybe we can give Smith some slack after only a couple games.
Franklin never figured it out. His clock management was as atrocious this season as it ever was.
 

PSUForever

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He was?

he botched the Oregon game ending. He botched the end of the First half of UCLA. I Lena maybe he went from terrible to just bad.
But he still sucked in those situations
All of these screw ups are because he coached scared and had a lousy feel for the game. In the Oregon game, we had all the momentum with the Oregon defense reeling and should have gone for the jugular with our best two pt play to win it with 20 seconds left or whatever it was. Now, I understand with AK calling the shots that may not exist but grow a pair and go for it. He was too scared of the criticism he would get. The fact is the defense was gassed as they were on the field forever and were not going to hold up in OT. He should have had a good sense for that. Knowles should have known also. A game management thing that Franklin was chronically weak on. Yeah you could say Monday morning quarterback on this but Franklin's track record with these tough decisions that can make or break a game were always lousy.

Then with UCLA at the end of the first half it was a train wreck. Again playing scared versus a 20 pt underdog no less! What an imbecile. His excuse was he was trying to run down the clock to not give them any time yet he does not foresee the impending disaster scenario of missing on 4th down and giving them the ball at mid field and falling further behind. If you are so scared about giving the ball to UCLA which you shouldn't be then you punt on 4th down and pin them deep. Don't go for it. But what you really need to do is play aggressive and score when you score. Don't worry about the clock. What an a$$ hat he was.

Anybody who thinks he still should be the Penn State head football coach clearly does not have the best interests of Penn State in mind.
 

donaldfair71

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I mean, we joke, but that whole chain of events was mind-boggling. I was standing in front of my TV in a kind of shock - not even mad per se - more like confused.
Never did hear commentators more in awe of how a coach was playing a situation. Playing for the FG but not yet in range with all your timeouts against a terrible team in an empty stadium. With your best team ever down multiple scores.
 

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If that were true, wouldn't all of Penn State's "committed" recruits stay?
My point is no player is coming to PSU because Bob Chesney is from Shamokin. People overrate where a coach is from as if it’s an advantage. The conversation was about Chesney
 
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psu0408

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The irrational anxiety of a fanbase that has had a grand total of 3 non-interim football coaches in about 60 years is on full display. This is a top 15 CFB job with $10-13M/yr in compensation for whichever current HC or coordinator gets the job.

James Franklin was the right man for the job when he was hired, and had a lot of success here. The trajectory of the program was trending more towards post-sanctions level than it was towards making a deep playoff run in the future. It was time to move on and get a head start on the process, despite the short term pain of losing some recruits.
 

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Yes, his in game decisions were often atrocious: Time management and going for 2 too early (see Minnesota 2019), amongst them. But for me, what was most nauseating was repeatedly snapping the ball 4 yards back in shotgun on 3rd or 4th and one. So many of those runs were stuffed for no gain or a loss. Those decisions halted many drives. Frankly, the only decision he made that "wowed" me was the fake punt against Minnesota late in the 4th quarter last year. I will concede that won the game.
 
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My point is no player is coming to PSU because Bob Chesney is from Shamokin. People overrate where a coach is from as if it’s an advantage. The conversation was about Chesney

No genius it doesn't, but it might have something to do with the coach's interest in coaching at PSU. He played college football in Carlisle and 100% of his coaching career is in Northeast and Middle-Atlantic regions.... that might have something to do with his primary recruiting experience and how they line up with PSU.....

Again, no one ever said it mattered to recruits where the coach is from - the only person saying that someone said this made up bs is you, go figure.
 
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ConcealedCarry

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All of these screw ups are because he coached scared and had a lousy feel for the game. In the Oregon game, we had all the momentum with the Oregon defense reeling and should have gone for the jugular with our best two pt play to win it with 20 seconds left or whatever it was. Now, I understand with AK calling the shots that may not exist but grow a pair and go for it. He was too scared of the criticism he would get. The fact is the defense was gassed as they were on the field forever and were not going to hold up in OT. He should have had a good sense for that. Knowles should have known also. A game management thing that Franklin was chronically weak on. Yeah you could say Monday morning quarterback on this but Franklin's track record with these tough decisions that can make or break a game were always lousy.

Then with UCLA at the end of the first half it was a train wreck. Again playing scared versus a 20 pt underdog no less! What an imbecile. His excuse was he was trying to run down the clock to not give them any time yet he does not foresee the impending disaster scenario of missing on 4th down and giving them the ball at mid field and falling further behind. If you are so scared about giving the ball to UCLA which you shouldn't be then you punt on 4th down and pin them deep. Don't go for it. But what you really need to do is play aggressive and score when you score. Don't worry about the clock. What an a$$ hat he was.

Anybody who thinks he still should be the Penn State head football coach clearly does not have the best interests of Penn State in mind.
Franklin never really fully understood situational football or the importance of a POWERFUL RUN BLOCKING OFFENSIVE LINE.
 

DaytonRickster

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Well, Rojas is one player that has already answered that question - he reposted Franklin's ESPN Gameday Comments on X along with a message that said Franklin didn't deserve the treatment he got. I don't think you will ever see Rojas in a PSU uniform again and wouldn't be surprised if he's on the field for VaTech next year.
That is his choice. Hopefully it works out for him. If that is his attitude maybe he needs to stay away from the PSU team just focus on his rehab, and enter his name in the portal at the earliest opportunity. PSU doesn't need a negative attitude inserted into the locker room.
 

Nitt1300

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That is his choice. Hopefully it works out for him. If that is his attitude maybe he needs to stay away from the PSU team just focus on his rehab, and enter his name in the portal at the earliest opportunity. PSU doesn't need a negative attitude inserted into the locker room.
Correct. The negative attitude needs to be inserted here, as always.
 
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BillDiehlNorstar

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You bring up a very good point about the playoff; since the 12 team format, I believe this is the first year of such high profile firings. With a 4 team playoff, many of these teams aren't still hanging around. Will be interesting to see how this plays out because for now, as long as there is a chance at the playoff, coaches are staying put (and getting paid big to do so).

Krafty The Clown just can't resist making a horses a** of himself. Making a clearly disingenuous social media post like this is so unprofessional and classless, it's sad. He's clearly a self-absorbed loudmouth, who just doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut.

Never did hear commentators more in awe of how a coach was playing a situation. Playing for the FG but not yet in range with all your timeouts against a terrible team in an empty stadium. With your best team ever down multiple scores.
And actually stated in post game interview they were trying to make sure they didn’t leave any time on the clock… That’s how scared they were of the UCLA offense
 

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My point is no player is coming to PSU because Bob Chesney is from Shamokin. People overrate where a coach is from as if it’s an advantage. The conversation was about Chesney
"In the year 2025, it does not matter where a coach is from." seemed like a blanket statement to me. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
 

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There are people who absolutely want the job and DeBoer is still interested no matter what some people think. Not saying it will be him but you have to continue to pursue a guy like him. There are others who have said they would take the job if offered.

But to your point after all the interviews and after the no's of Cignetti and Elko maybe there wasn't all that much interest in Key and Brohm as we've been led to believe. If (IF) that's so then just give Terry Smith a three-year contract then go from there.

If Smith were hired roster retention probably wouldn't take that big of a hit and maybe outside of Knowles and the OC Franklin doesn't get to raid the staff of our best coaches. Just food for thought assuming you're right.
If we fire Franklin and hire his assistant the AD needs fired immediately.
 

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You gotta have faith. Did we all think we were getting Cig or Elko? Part of the issue is all these pro Franklin clowns on this board will lead you to believe Franklin was really good for PSU. Just summon up your memory of how you felt after the '17 Rose Bowl, the OSU games of '17, '18, 19, '22, '23, '24. The Michigan games of '21 through '23. The ND game of '24. The Minny game in '19, the Sparty games of '17 and '18. The guy was a veritable train wreck frittering away winnable games.

What is not being said is if we hire Drinkwitz and he doesn't work out then he gets fired and we hire a new coach. It is not like the program is guaranteed to fail forever. Look at A&M?? Sumlin to Jimbo and maybe another one in there but they got it right now.

Penn State football will be fine and I stand by my prediction that we win a NC within 10 years.
How do we win a NC in 10 years if we’re firing a coach every 3-4?
 

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That is his choice. Hopefully it works out for him. If that is his attitude maybe he needs to stay away from the PSU team just focus on his rehab, and enter his name in the portal at the earliest opportunity. PSU doesn't need a negative attitude inserted into the locker room.
I would be surprised if his transition to another team is not already in the planning stages.
 
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PSU4U

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You gotta have faith. Did we all think we were getting Cig or Elko? Part of the issue is all these pro Franklin clowns on this board will lead you to believe Franklin was really good for PSU. Just summon up your memory of how you felt after the '17 Rose Bowl, the OSU games of '17, '18, 19, '22, '23, '24. The Michigan games of '21 through '23. The ND game of '24. The Minny game in '19, the Sparty games of '17 and '18. The guy was a veritable train wreck frittering away winnable games.

What is not being said is if we hire Drinkwitz and he doesn't work out then he gets fired and we hire a new coach. It is not like the program is guaranteed to fail forever. Look at A&M?? Sumlin to Jimbo and maybe another one in there but they got it right now.

Penn State football will be fine and I stand by my prediction that we win a NC within 10 years.
Drink came out and said that the stuff about him interviewing and pursuing other jobs is a lie. If true that's throws another light on the search.
 

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No genius it doesn't, but it might have something to do with the coach's interest in coaching at PSU. He played college football in Carlisle and 100% of his coaching career is in Northeast and Middle-Atlantic regions.... that might have something to do with his primary recruiting experience and how they line up with PSU.....

Again, no one ever said it mattered to recruits where the coach is from - the only person saying that someone said this made up bs is you, go figure.
Yeah none of that matters one bit. Nick Saban grew up in West Virginia, went to college in Ohio. Won national championships in Louisiana and Alabama. Again, as much as you want it to matter, it just doesn’t.
 
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I'm always amazed at how many uber-elite football minds we have on this board. It's a wonder they have the time to provide so much commentary and critique on here while still interviewing for all these open FBS jobs.

It's hard to believe that Franklin is going to be paid $9 million to coach football next year while all these uber-elite football minds will be...... well........, they'll just be here endlessly babbling and booring us with their diatribes about how bad the new staff is and how much more they know about football and coaching football than Krafty The Clown's new hire.
 
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Yeah none of that matters one bit. Nick Saban grew up in West Virginia, went to college in Ohio. Won national championships in Louisiana and Alabama. Again, as much as you want it to matter, it just doesn’t.

How a prospective coach views the opportunity (and his experience in the base recruiting area during his coaching career) are irrelevant.... Good to know genius know-it-all. You're f'ing wrong as the day is long, but you go on believing whatever you want dips***.