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The former Franklin Defense Force has settled nicely into their PSU agitator/foil roles before we’ve even hired anyone. Maybe they can start a few more threads about Franklin and VT?
I was hoping we would ditch some posters along with Franklin. You would think they would have joined the VT board by now so they could sing Franklin's praises.
 

LMTLION

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Landon is reporting with 100% certainty that Bobby engrem is interviewing this week. I dont know what to think of this
I think it’s probably a complementary interview. Kraft knows donors, particularly old PSU money, would be very unhappy if we simply ignored Engram’s interest in the position. I didn’t know much about Bobby’s coaching career, but he has been in a variety of assistant, positional and coordinator position since 2011.
 

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I was hoping we would ditch some posters along with Franklin. You would think they would have joined the VT board by now so they could sing Franklin's praises.
Or we could have ditched some posters whose only purpose was to come on here, bash Franklin, and second guess his every move. You would think they would be able to step away now and do something else, but they just can’t let it go even though he’s gone.
 

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The former Franklin Defense Force has settled nicely into their PSU agitator/foil roles before we’ve even hired anyone. Maybe they can start a few more threads about Franklin and VT?
Better yet how about if the posters suffering from Franklin Derangement Syndrome keep trashing him and beating the dead horse weeks after he is gone? As I have said before I understand and don’t have a problem with his firing and will take a wait and see attitude on whoever gets hired but given the fact that we fans DESERVE a Natty according to Kraft, it damn well better be a home run hire.
 

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Better yet how about if the posters suffering from Franklin Derangement Syndrome keep trashing him and beating the dead horse weeks after he is gone? As I have said before I understand and don’t have a problem with his firing and will take a wait and see attitude on whoever gets hired but given the fact that we fans DESERVE a Natty according to Kraft, it damn well better be a home run hire.

Life is hard. Let us hope for and enjoy Franklin’s failure at vo tech.

😞
 

LMTLION

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Seems strange for such an interview to get out before the head coach has been announced.
I would agree with you. It is strange timing. But like I said in another message, my best guess is that it’s a complementary interview to appease all parties. But it does make me wonder if Terry is actually interested in the position. You would think Bobby would not compete against Terry for the position if Terry really does want a job.
 

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This is what I mean. Why? Are we this desperate? Or is this just out of good faith because he was a PSUer?
There’s probably a contingent of lettermen pushing for him to get an interview. Doesn’t mean that if Engram lists his 3 references correctly on his job application, he’s immediately hired. I think it does reveal however, that the reports that PSU “has it’s guy” are BS, and a hire is not imminent
 

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The jury will still be out even if Kraft hires DeBoer.
DeBoer was 25-3 over his two years at Washington and is now 17-6 over 1+ years at Bama, with Bama knocking on the door of the CFP this year. If DeBoer fails at Penn State, then I think that has to be acknowledged as a "Penn State problem" and that hiring the ghosts of Bear Bryant, Knute Rockne, and Vince Lombardi aren't going to bring Penn State to prominence.
 

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Also surprise Bobby Ingram to interview this week. Also, Chesney gave the best two interviews of any.
Engram was a great WR at the collegiate and NFL levels. If he's interested, he deserves an interview. Could be a fallback position if Terry Smith is elevated to HC, have Engram be OC.
 
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LMTLION

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He would if he’s Penn State material.
I’ll give you that one for sure. Drinkwitz, Chesney (vs wazzou), Brohm (vs SMU and supposedly still a real candidate), Key (vs Pitt), and Terry himself tonight all have very important games today as part of their interview process.
 

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Landon is reporting with 100% certainty that Bobby engrem is interviewing this week. I dont know what to think of this
Perhaps Bobby and his agent reached out and Kraft is giving him an interview out of respect and courtesy. I wouldn’t read to much into it. Sounds like Kraft is leaving no stone unturned and casting a wide net. After all Engram had extensive experience as a player and coach at the college and pro level.
 
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Bvillebaron

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DeBoer was 25-3 over his two years at Washington and is now 17-6 over 1+ years at Bama, with Bama knocking on the door of the CFP this year. If DeBoer fails at Penn State, then I think that has to be acknowledged as a "Penn State problem" and that hiring the ghosts of Bear Bryant, Knute Rockne, and Vince Lombardi aren't going to bring Penn State to prominence.
So? Past performance is no guarantee of future success.
 

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Better yet how about if the posters suffering from Franklin Derangement Syndrome keep trashing him and beating the dead horse weeks after he is gone? As I have said before I understand and don’t have a problem with his firing and will take a wait and see attitude on whoever gets hired but given the fact that we fans DESERVE a Natty according to Kraft, it damn well better be a home run hire.

No one ever said we deserve anything. We’d like to beat some good teams every now and then. Franklin checked out and ran his best team ever (by his own admission) - and NC favorite by many publications and prognosticators - off a cliff. Now we should regret moving on because our clickbait national narrative has shifted from ‘Franklin is the worst coach ever in big games’ to ‘Penn State is stupid for firing him!’? Jesus.
 

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Just opened this thread to see what's in the wind this morning......Engram to be interviewed for HC ????? WTH happened overnight?
 

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It’s imploding all around Terry Smith as we speak, so I’m not sure how you can say he won’t let anything implode (nothing to see here, everything is fine).
It was in the context of him being HC and the reason things are going south to the degree it is the HC wasn't named before Franklin took the VT job. There is always some attrition when a coach leaves but this time I admit it has the potential to be bigly.
 

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Was watching one of the podcasts this morning and one of the so called experts says tOSU and Day have a plan in place if Hartline takes the job. Sounded like he could start early. Says Hartline would absolutely take job if offered. FWIW heard early on from a guy I trust that it was going to be Meyer but then things fell apart or didn’t progress. Then heard from a couple different people it was going to be Key. Now no idea.
 

Bvillebaron

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No one ever said we deserve anything. We’d like to beat some good teams every now and then. Franklin checked out and ran his best team ever (by his own admission) - and NC favorite by many publications and prognosticators - off a cliff. Now we should regret moving on because our clickbait national narrative has shifted from ‘Franklin is the worst coach ever in big games’ to ‘Penn State is stupid for firing him!’? Jesus.
Kraft said it. Get a clue.
 

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Again, if you just sit there and downgrade every team anyone ever beat, then you’ll never be happy with the results. Not beating OSU and Michigan is not severely damaging the program or pretty much every program in the country is severely damaged.
Ok…name a few…should not be that difficult.
 

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Yes, I understand that we cannot truly judge the hire until we see the results on the field. But as far as the actual search is concerned, it’s been epically bad. I really do think Kraft isn’t going to make it long enough to even see the new hire’s full PSU career. How has his basketball hire played out? Completely different circumstances, but has he hired a bunch of winners? Or just won with what the AD already had in place? He really has nuked the program - if you think the decommits are bad, just watch what happens to the active roster. This became a true rebuild.

At this point, I’d hire Hartline and give him time and resources. His age and recruiting alone will jolt some life into the program.

Or give it to Smith with the caveat the search just continues into the next season.

I just can’t trust a hire like Chesney. Nobody even knew his name until like two weeks ago. No experience at all at a program of this magnitude let alone recruiting at the P4 level. Trying to replicate Cignetti is fool’s gold. Cig at least coached with Saban.
We won’t know that for a few years. Hopefully if we don’t beat O$U again for a decade, we’ll make another move!
 

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Or we could start trashing the new coach from day one, second guess every decision, and downplay every game they win for the entirety of his career. Oh, and hope they lose every game so we look like we’re right and then call anyone that supports him a fanboy and clueless. Does that sound better?
Sounds like you are ready to go…how about waiting 11 years…give tne new guy a chance?!
 

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So being a few plays from playing for the Natty last year caused “severe” damage to the program. Franklin caused such severe damage that he left enough talent to be ahead of Iowa by 11 points in the second half and lost to #2 Indiana on a last minute drive. There is some “severe damage” here but it ain’t what Franklin did to Penn State. Congrats!
Yes. We never have lost to Indiana at home before…and the Franklin softies dialed up a first…so yes, severe damage…how about the first team in half as century to start at #2 and collapse like PSU 2025…so yes, severe…

Time to move on…your guy was given 11.5 years to win a second game against a decent team.

Tine to give someone else a bite at the Apple.

BGJ is bringing his carnival show to VATech and has moved on…

Perhaps you should do the same?
 

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This is what I mean. Why? Are we this desperate? Or is this just out of good faith because he was a PSUer?
I think it means there’s a non zero group of people on the board and in the donor class that still want a Paterno tie and this placates them. Not even necessarily a hire but just to sleep at night knowing that all of his guys even somewhat qualified were given an interview.
 
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Moorhead was overrated. His offense would get shutdown for half the game. Barkley also was shutdown for entire games. How does a team with mcsorley, Barkley, gesicki, Godwin, Hamilton, Tompkins, blacknall, and jiwan Johnson get shutdown?

You don't see any p5 schools beating down moorehead's door.
 

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FWIW heard early on from a guy I trust that it was going to be Meyer but then things fell apart or didn’t progress.
I wonder if that horse hockey about Meyer flubbing a NIL question in the interview was the other way round, that Meyer wanted more PSU commitment to NIL and they wouldn't provide it, and the "NIL flub" was developed as a ruse to save face.

If Kraft had Meyer under his nose and blew it...that tells me that his ability to screw up this hire is running north of 90%.
 

rigi19040

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Engram was a great WR at the collegiate and NFL levels. If he's interested, he deserves an interview. Could be a fallback position if Terry Smith is elevated to HC, have Engram be OC.
Might as well interview TO.

Does being a great wr make a guy a great HC?
 
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rigi19040

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Perhaps Bobby and his agent reached out and Kraft is giving him an interview out of respect and courtesy. I wouldn’t read to much into it. Sounds like Kraft is leaving no stone unturned and casting a wide net. After all Engram had extensive experience as a player and coach at the college and pro level.
Perhaps they reached out to psu before they ask Washington for a new contract like everyone else.