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rigi19040

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No one ever said we deserve anything. We’d like to beat some good teams every now and then. Franklin checked out and ran his best team ever (by his own admission) - and NC favorite by many publications and prognosticators - off a cliff. Now we should regret moving on because our clickbait national narrative has shifted from ‘Franklin is the worst coach ever in big games’ to ‘Penn State is stupid for firing him!’? Jesus.
Why did you pick them to win a natty?
 

MacNit

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I wonder if that horse hockey about Meyer flubbing a NIL question in the interview was the other way round, that Meyer wanted more PSU commitment to NIL and they wouldn't provide it, and the "NIL flub" was developed as a ruse to save face.

If Kraft had Meyer under his nose and blew it...that tells me that his ability to screw up this hire is running north of 90%.
Could be…also heard a certain faction wanted more “honor w/ success”
 

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Why did you pick them to win a natty?

Did you?


Several prominent analysts, including
Kirk Herbstreit, Lee Corso, and Colin Cowherd, picked Penn State to play in the national championship game this year. Other analysts like Heather Dinich and Johnny McGonigal also had them in their preseason national championship predictions.
  • Kirk Herbstreit: Predicted Penn State would play LSU in the national championship game.
  • Lee Corso: Had Penn State playing LSU for the national title and predicted Penn State would win the national championship.
  • Colin Cowherd: Predicted a national championship matchup between Penn State and Texas.
  • Heather Dinich: Picked Penn State as the team with the best chance to win the national championship.
  • Johnny McGonigal: Penn State was his pick to win the national title in his preseason College Football Playoff predictions.
 
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Mufasa94

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Yet you ignore how teams like FSU or LSU have done with their coaching hires....
I’d rather have LSU’s success since ‘14. Undefeated MNC season beats half time 2-3 loss seasons.…
...so you think a coach like Schiano (or Fleck at minny) has a better record against the Top 5 and Top 10 than Franklin? There are tons of D1A coaches with 0-fers against the true Top 5 and Top 10,
Unfortunately, I know of at least one top 5 (at the time) win that Fleck had. Not sure if that was the first time I remember the Franklin to fill in the blank team rumors leading up to a game that PSU wasn't prepared to play from the start.
 

PAgeologist

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Better yet how about if the posters suffering from Franklin Derangement Syndrome keep trashing him and beating the dead horse weeks after he is gone? As I have said before I understand and don’t have a problem with his firing and will take a wait and see attitude on whoever gets hired but given the fact that we fans DESERVE a Natty according to Kraft, it damn well better be a home run hire.
As someone who despised Franklin, I dont disagree with you. Unfortunately neither side is likely to back down. I do acknowledge he did some good things here, but IMO he failed in many regards. Especially this year.

I am excited to see who Kraft gets. But it does need to be a home run hire. Kraft has attached his name to this, for better or worse. I do have a feeling there are names at play here who nobody knows about. And names are thrown out to the public that have no intentions of coming.
 

pendal1

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One other thing to consider is that if BGJ had not pooped the bed this season, you know he would have been leveraging the open coaching positions around the country to the hilt.

His annual act was quite tiresome. Just like Lane Kiffen is distracting Ole Miss from what should be a great season for that program.
Very true.
 

rigi19040

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I wonder if that horse hockey about Meyer flubbing a NIL question in the interview was the other way round, that Meyer wanted more PSU commitment to NIL and they wouldn't provide it, and the "NIL flub" was developed as a ruse to save face.

If Kraft had Meyer under his nose and blew it...that tells me that his ability to screw up this hire is running north of 90%.
Do you expect Kraft to print nil money?
 

rigi19040

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Did you?


Several prominent analysts, including
Kirk Herbstreit, Lee Corso, and Colin Cowherd, picked Penn State to play in the national championship game this year. Other analysts like Heather Dinich and Johnny McGonigal also had them in their preseason national championship predictions.
  • Kirk Herbstreit: Predicted Penn State would play LSU in the national championship game.
  • Lee Corso: Had Penn State playing LSU for the national title and predicted Penn State would win the national championship.
  • Colin Cowherd: Predicted a national championship matchup between Penn State and Texas.
  • Heather Dinich: Picked Penn State as the team with the best chance to win the national championship.
  • Johnny McGonigal: Penn State was his pick to win the national title in his preseason College Football Playoff predictions.
Absolutely not. This team had holes up and down. Did you even watch the team play last year? Even after the first three games it was obvious we were not anywhere close to a championship team.

Best returning WR was Clifford. WTF. LB had a walk on in the top 3. Another WTF. QB was always a question mark. You probably had Allar winning the Heisman. RB was nowhere near the best RB combo that many were talking about. DT had a bunch of question marks on the depth chart. I could go on.

The entire offense was always a question mark.

A bunch of idiot broadcasters picked psu. They were idiots who basically parrot what they read from some other idiot. I dont remember anyone who covers PSU actually pick PSU.

PS. Any Franklin basher who picked the team to win a natty is a moron. It is a total contradiction.
 

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Absolutely not. This team had holes up and down. Did you even watch the team play last year? Even after the first three games it was obvious we were not anywhere close to a championship team.

Best returning WR was Clifford. WTF. LB had a walk on in the top 3. Another WTF. QB was always a question mark. You probably had Allar winning the Heisman. RB was nowhere near the best RB combo that many were talking about. DT had a bunch of question marks on the depth chart. I could go on.

The entire offense was always a question mark.

A bunch of idiot broadcasters picked psu. They were idiots who basically parrot what they read from some other idiot. I dont remember anyone who covers PSU actually pick PSU.

PS. Any Franklin basher who picked the team to win a natty is a moron. It is a total contradiction.

Joe Smeltzer picked them to play for the NC. Ignoring you from now on sinc you clearly do zero research. Bye.
 

Chumboshifko1

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Absolutely not. This team had holes up and down. Did you even watch the team play last year? Even after the first three games it was obvious we were not anywhere close to a championship team.

Best returning WR was Clifford. WTF. LB had a walk on in the top 3. Another WTF. QB was always a question mark. You probably had Allar winning the Heisman. RB was nowhere near the best RB combo that many were talking about. DT had a bunch of question marks on the depth chart. I could go on.

The entire offense was always a question mark.

A bunch of idiot broadcasters picked psu. They were idiots who basically parrot what they read from some other idiot. I dont remember anyone who covers PSU actually pick PSU.

PS. Any Franklin basher who picked the team to win a natty is a moron. It is a total contradiction.

Bashing BGJ is the best thing anyone can do.
 

johnmpsu

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One other thing to consider is that if BGJ had not pooped the bed this season, you know he would have been leveraging the open coaching positions around the country to the hilt.

His annual act was quite tiresome. Just like Lane Kiffen is distracting Ole Miss from what should be a great season for that program.
Dead on perfect except you got the name wrong. No longer BGJ. He's now "Hokie Chokie".
 

Bvillebaron

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Yes. We never have lost to Indiana at home before…and the Franklin softies dialed up a first…so yes, severe damage…how about the first team in half as century to start at #2 and collapse like PSU 2025…so yes, severe…

Time to move on…your guy was given 11.5 years to win a second game against a decent team.

Tine to give someone else a bite at the Apple.

BGJ is bringing his carnival show to VATech and has moved on…

Perhaps you should do the same?
Here’s a memo since you need someone to point things out to you with pictures, Franklin wasn’t coaching against Indiana. Let me also try to put my point in the simplest terms so that even you MIGHT understand it: if Franklin so severely damaged the program, the team would be losing every week. You are right about one thing: Franklin has moved on, but unfortunately your Franklin Derangement Syndrome continues unabated.
 

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Terry Smith won't let anything implode. Also, Bendapudi is firmly in the Terry Smith to HC camp. That is some special support. It most likely won't be Smith but Kraft could do a lot worse, or you could have Franklin.

If Kraft made a mistake, it was not having his HC on board before Franklin landed at VT.
So you're saying Neeli and Kraft are NOT aligned? WTF!? We've been lied to all year.
 
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Great player, one of my favorites, but this reeks of desperation. Over a month into the process and interviewing a position coach. If he isn’t a Penn Stater, he doesn’t get the call.

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It's just a courtesy. If you have a respected, well liked alum that is a coach already expressing some interest in the job, you give him the interview out of respect. Odds of him getting the job are slim, there's no harm is sitting down with him for an hour. Maybe you discover that you want him on staff in some other position.
 

BCS PSU

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That might not be a completely bad thing. Several of these recruits probably just did sooner what they would’ve done in another season or two anyway.

Like I said before, when several of these decommits come to the new coach begging for another chance at PSU, and you know that will happen, I hope that he’s in a position to politely tell them to get lost.
 
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He could have waited until the end of the year. Maybe Franklin would have fixed things, maybe not, but firing him when he did served no purpose.
By firing him early, you get a head start on talking to new coach candidates before other programs do. You remove a coach that appeared to have lost the locker room and seemed checked out from continuing in the position, sending a message to all that your program doesn't tolerate a rudderless ship with Franklin continuing as captain. Keeping Franklin in place would have been crazy. Imagine the fan response, the press conferences, etc. Every single week the questions about his job would be in the national media. The recruiting class would have fallen apart as the team circled the drain, Franklin or no Franklin. Do you really think we'd have had better odds to hire a top replacement quick enough to prep for signing day and the January portal window if we had waited until after next week to start the search? The search was going to take weeks minimum, regardless of when it started. Getting rid of him immediately was the right move.