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BobPSU92

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There seems to be some evidence to that yet Terry Smith has been able to turn that around some. I think clarity comes Saturday after Kiffen makes his decision/announcement and there will then be rapid movement with PSU toward the bottom of the pecking order for coaches. I'll take Chesney.

Coach opening pecking order:
1a) LSU
1b) Florida
3) Florida State after they fire their coach
4) Ole Miss if Kiffin leaves
5) Auburn
6) PSU

Wild cards:
- Alabama if Deboer decides to bolt
- Washington if Fisch takes an SEC job

It was just reported yesterday that fsu will retain norvell for 2026.
 
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So are the people who told everybody to decommitt still part of the current PSU staff? Im kinda confused on the timing of this one.

Call Krafty The Clown - this must have all been part of "his plan"..... I'm amused at all the idiots on here who are pissed at James Franklin - who is not the creator of this ****show. The one, and only, creator of this ****show is Krafty The Clown, who made the impulsive move to fire Franklin with zero plan as to how he was going to] mitigate precisely what has transpired. According to some, it was Krafty's brilliant plan to have Franklin land at his new P4 home long before PSU named a new HC and was floating around in the ocean like a rudderless ship. Now were complaining about the situation and blaming Franklin????? LMAO, some of you self-proclaimed savants really crack me up......

What precisely did you think Terry Smith was saying in regards to "this is my locker room"? Who precisely do you think hired Terry Smith.... who made him Associate HC? Why did he specifically state that he will be coaching on the sidelines next year, even if it is not at PSU, because it's what he loves to do, enjoys and is passionate about....? If he is passed over at PSU, where do all you brainiacs suppose he will be coaching next year (and do his best to take his locker room with him)?
 

BobPSU92

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Curious why you consider PSU a "bottom of the barrel" school. Especially Auburn, Ole Miss, and FSU. Is Neeli et al that tight with the pursestrings? Kraft that much of a problem? Central PA that crappy a location? Maybe today's coaches don't want a 100,000 plus seat venue to showcase their talent.

I would put PSU up with LSU and Florida, maybe even give a nod to PSU given that the path to the playoff would be better than getting pounded in an increasingly competitive SEC. Ole Miss and Auburn certainly below PSU - Ole Miss is simply not in that tier (if they were, why would Kiffen leave?), and Auburn has had some very uninspiring coach hirings recently. FSU might have a decent path to the playoff thru the ACC, but their coach isn't gone yet.

Of all the schools you mentioned, Bama is head and shoulders above the rest given their commitment to their program. Problem there is that it's a pressure cooker job.

If PSU really is a bottom of the barrel job, then I'd say hire Terry Smith now and be done with it. Chesney would probably get snapped up by another school first, if they wanted to take a chance on him, but if Chesney succeeds, why would he stay at a second-tier school like Penn State?

You must be new here. We always suck most.

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Bvillebaron

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Honest question: who do you think Kraft should have hired by now? Because the only guys available before the end of the regular season were either just fired or they’re “retired”.

I guarantee every one of Kraft’s legitimate options is still coaching and there is no possible way he could have hired any one of them by now. Give it another week or two. Our search was always going to take this long.
He needs to have a coach in place before December 3rd or Penn State can absolutely p*** away the 2026 high school recruiting class.
Not sure how he would know anything.
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Bvillebaron

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It is more than that. Multiple schools fired their coaches and psu is the only one with this many decommits. Only one hired a replacement
Maybe they weren’t too keen on Franklin getting fired. We shall see if any of them wind up at VaTech.
 

Bvillebaron

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Franklin recruited players to play for him. Not Penn State.
That is the most asinine post I have seen all year. Run, don’t walk to the nearest mental health facility to get help for your Franklin Derangement Syndrome while you still can. Geez.
 
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NewEra 2026

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There seems to be some evidence to that yet Terry Smith has been able to turn that around some. I think clarity comes Saturday after Kiffen makes his decision/announcement and there will then be rapid movement with PSU toward the bottom of the pecking order for coaches. I'll take Chesney.

Coach opening pecking order:
1a) LSU
1b) Florida
3) Florida State after they fire their coach
4) Ole Miss if Kiffin leaves
5) Auburn
6) PSU

Wild cards:
- Alabama if Deboer decides to bolt
- Washington if Fisch takes an SEC job
That's a really interesting ranking of the open jobs. Until further notice, Penn State is the premier job in the entire northeast and mid-Atlantic states, and it is easily top 5 in the country. As a coach, you know that the Penn State job doesn't come open very often, so you may have only one chance to make a claim to that real estate during your coaching career. Meanwhile, one or two "prime" SEC jobs is likely to come open every other year. So if you are a top-level coach, you have the opportunity to get a good SEC job several times during your career. The Penn State job is highly coveted in the coaching community, as we will soon find out.
 

Bvillebaron

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Sounds like they knew they were leaving but while still working for Penn state they were telling kids to decommit. They meaning the GM, recruiting coordinator, and at least one coach. Reminds me of some stories I heard about Franklin leaving Vandy. Not sure where the line is between a guy just doing his job and a guy being a pos but for sure Franklin is a spiteful man so nothing would surprise me.
Franklin was FIRED in case you missed it. He has EVERY right to do all he can to make VaTech a winner, including poaching coaches and players. If Kraft wasn’t smart enough to realize this, he’s a fool.
 

Bvillebaron

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Wow. I wasnt reading it wrong. It sounds like they were forced to decommitt in some cases.

I really hope if any of those people are still here Terry shows them the door and uses their head as a battering ram to open it.

I didnt think I could like Franklin any less, but I am managing to find new levels of hatred for him. I guess I have one game a year i will root hard for Pitt to win.
And you are finding new levels of stupidity.
 

NittanyBoy88

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Quite frankly, I’m stunned Terry hadn’t even interviewed for the job until this week. It’s actually alarming as it means to me, coupled with the Bobby Engram news, we’re not close to hiring a coach. It also leads me to almost believe Terry is the front runner right now, if for no other reason, there aren’t many other candidates. Which is wild to me, if true.
 

PAgeologist

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That is the most asinine post I have seen all year. Run, don’t walk to the nearest mental health facility to get help for your Franklin Derangement Syndrome while you still can. Geez.
Really? What else explains all the decommits? Oh yeah, his equally scum bag GM and others telling recruits to decommit, while still employed at PSU. Karma cant find Franklin and his cronies soon enough. I wish all of them nothing but the worst in life. They deserve it.
 

barry j fenchak

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That is the most asinine post I have seen all year. Run, don’t walk to the nearest mental health facility to get help for your Franklin Derangement Syndrome while you still can. Geez.
For years you have been shouting down anyone that said anything the least bit negative about your boy BGJ. Now you want it to just all go away so your colossal mistake is not as obvious. The stink will remain for quite some time due to your enthusiasm, and is fully warranted. Enjoy the fruits of your labor.
 
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Midnighter

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Really? What else explains all the decommits? Oh yeah, his equally scum bag GM and others telling recruits to decommit, while still employed at PSU. Karma cant find Franklin and his cronies soon enough. I wish all of them nothing but the worst in life. They deserve it.

Someone said Smith has brought back a culture of ‘we instead of me’ to PSU. We know who the ‘me’ was.
 

MacNit

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Franklin was FIRED in case you missed it. He has EVERY right to do all he can to make VaTech a winner, including poaching coaches and players. If Kraft wasn’t smart enough to realize this, he’s a fool.
Franklin could not win a meanigful game here, why worry what he’ll do at VAT Tech?
 

donaldfair71

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Really? What else explains all the decommits? Oh yeah, his equally scum bag GM and others telling recruits to decommit, while still employed at PSU. Karma cant find Franklin and his cronies soon enough. I wish all of them nothing but the worst in life. They deserve it.
It doesn't even have to be nefarious, nor does it take rocket science to figure out:

If Kelly or Napier had a job lined up, all but announced, they would see similar decommits.

It's what happens in 2025 college sports.
 

NoBareFeet

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PAgeologist

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It doesn't even have to be nefarious, nor does it take rocket science to figure out:

If Kelly or Napier had a job lined up, all but announced, they would see similar decommits.

It's what happens in 2025 college sports.
I dont have a problem with Franklin trying to get his recruits to VT. I expect that. Its the fact that people still employed at PSU were telling kids to decommit. I guess PSU was stupid enough to keep them around. Is sabotage from within acceptable in 2025?
 

donaldfair71

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Yeah, the commits aren't coming back unless Terry or the next coach retains the entire staff. The reasons for leaving don't involve one person, but they're committed mostly to different coaches and they've been led to believe the staff will end up in Blacksburg.

If you want to know which players have been led to believe this and whether they are basing their end decision on a (not necessarily Terry but also a position) coach being here, cross reference the Tech visitors list from Saturday against the PSU commits. They're waiting on PSU not just naming a coach but retaining position coaches that they like. If not, they're out.
 

BobPSU92

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I dont have a problem with Franklin trying to get his recruits to VT. I expect that. Its the fact that people still employed at PSU were telling kids to decommit. I guess PSU was stupid enough to keep them around. Is sabotage from within acceptable in 2025?

It’s acceptable when it’s PSU being sabotaged.

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Fred8811

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Michigan beat Nebraska 30 - 27.
That means Nebraska can play.
Trying to find the perfect superstar for HC is a waste of time.
Mr. Smith is the man.
Please hurry.
 

WPB_lion

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I like to think of myself as a realistic PSU fan, but do you really think Ole Miss and Auburn are more desirable?
No they are not. IMO, Florida State is not more desirable either. Until they figure out what is up with the ACC, Florida State's future and available resources are an unknown.
 

WPB_lion

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Yes because the vast majority of coaches who might become available would probably prefer SEC jobs.
Your statement is based upon nothing. Auburn is second fiddle in its own state and Ole Miss is not a traditional powerhouse. Neither is a top 10 program. They are traditional middle tier teams in the SEC that occasionally have good years. We are a solid, consistent # 3 in the BIG with a higher ceiling than both Auburn and Ole Miss. Our fan base is second to none and job security for coaches is much better at PSU.
 

rigi19040

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Franklin was FIRED in case you missed it. He has EVERY right to do all he can to make VaTech a winner, including poaching coaches and players. If Kraft wasn’t smart enough to realize this, he’s a fool.


The staffers were NOT fired. Were they still collecting a PSU check when they were telling recruits to decommit? If they were still at PSU they have a fiduciary duty to PSU.
 

rigi19040

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Quite frankly, I’m stunned Terry hadn’t even interviewed for the job until this week. It’s actually alarming as it means to me, coupled with the Bobby Engram news, we’re not close to hiring a coach. It also leads me to almost believe Terry is the front runner right now, if for no other reason, there aren’t many other candidates. Which is wild to me, if true.
Or we already have our guy. I dont remember too many people pushing for Smith after his first three losses.
 

DaytonRickster

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I was more referring to the recruiting class that left. They committed to Franklin, not PSU. The current players are essentially a captive audience.

And im not sure about your ranking order there. Guess it depends on the candidate, and what they consider important. The PSU program has plenty of monetary support, fan support and school support. Id put the program up against any on that list.
My list is based on the coaches that might potentially move to these openings, most of whom are more inclined to remain in the South or head south:
- Kiffin
- Key
- Drinkwitz
- Lea
- Sumrall
- Fisch (current UW coach but Florida alum)
- Lashlee (sp?)

It is not a slight of the PSU position, it is the reality of the desirable coaches.

I have no desire to see PSU hire Hartline, Golden, or Fitzgetald.
 
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DaytonRickster

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Curious why you consider PSU a "bottom of the barrel" school. Especially Auburn, Ole Miss, and FSU. Is Neeli et al that tight with the pursestrings? Kraft that much of a problem? Central PA that crappy a location? Maybe today's coaches don't want a 100,000 plus seat venue to showcase their talent.

I would put PSU up with LSU and Florida, maybe even give a nod to PSU given that the path to the playoff would be better than getting pounded in an increasingly competitive SEC. Ole Miss and Auburn certainly below PSU - Ole Miss is simply not in that tier (if they were, why would Kiffen leave?), and Auburn has had some very uninspiring coach hirings recently. FSU might have a decent path to the playoff thru the ACC, but their coach isn't gone yet.

Of all the schools you mentioned, Bama is head and shoulders above the rest given their commitment to their program. Problem there is that it's a pressure cooker job.

If PSU really is a bottom of the barrel job, then I'd say hire Terry Smith now and be done with it. Chesney would probably get snapped up by another school first, if they wanted to take a chance on him, but if Chesney succeeds, why would he stay at a second-tier school like Penn State?
See my reply to PAGeologist.
 

Bvillebaron

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Yeah, the commits aren't coming back unless Terry or the next coach retains the entire staff. The reasons for leaving don't involve one person, but they're committed mostly to different coaches and they've been led to believe the staff will end up in Blacksburg.

If you want to know which players have been led to believe this and whether they are basing their end decision on a (not necessarily Terry but also a position) coach being here, cross reference the Tech visitors list from Saturday against the PSU commits. They're waiting on PSU not just naming a coach but retaining position coaches that they like. If not, they're out.
Call me shocked. Not.
 
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84lion

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My list is based on the coaches that might potentially move to these openings, most of whom are more inclined to remain in the South or head south:
- Kiffin
- Key
- Drinkwitz
- Lea
- Sumrall
- Fisch (current UW coach but Florida alum)
- Lashlee (sp?)

It is not a slight of the PSU position, it is the reality of the desirable coaches.

I have no desire to see PSU hire Hartline, Golden, or Fitzgetald.
I see. Perhaps Penn State, rather than closing the Mont Alto campus, should have moved the main campus there; they could've advertised it as "just north of the South."

I hope the candidates have an open mind.
 

Lion84

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There seems to be some evidence to that yet Terry Smith has been able to turn that around some. I think clarity comes Saturday after Kiffen makes his decision/announcement and there will then be rapid movement with PSU toward the bottom of the pecking order for coaches. I'll take Chesney.

Coach opening pecking order:
1a) LSU
1b) Florida
3) Florida State after they fire their coach
4) Ole Miss if Kiffin leaves
5) Auburn
6) PSU

Wild cards:
- Alabama if Deboer decides to bolt
- Washington if Fisch takes an SEC job
I would put PSU at #2 - above FSU - Ole Miss and Auburn - no way we are behind all of them.
 

PSU4U

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My list is based on the coaches that might potentially move to these openings, most of whom are more inclined to remain in the South or head south:
- Kiffin
- Key
- Drinkwitz
- Lea
- Sumrall
- Fisch (current UW coach but Florida alum)
- Lashlee (sp?)

It is not a slight of the PSU position, it is the reality of the desirable coaches.

I have no desire to see PSU hire Hartline, Golden, or Fitzgetald.
I might be late to the party on this one, but a mystery candidate has interviewed.