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Ludd

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They didn't decommit because their coaches didn't have anywhere to go and those coaches weren't encouraging said players coaches and recruits to do so a month before they were fired. Turns out other than Kiffin and Franklin those coaches weren't scumbags.
So Franklin is a scumbag because he got fired….interesting take.
 

JVP_Yahweh

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That's what they said about Joe's Grand Experiment
I love Joe's Grand Experiment and "Success with Honor but those are dated ideas now. It's just mercenary football now with a race to the top funded by well healed donors. There is no focus on academics, loyalty or anything grandiose. It's all about winning, making bank and raising ticket prices on loyal fans, a lot of whom cannot even afford it anymore
 
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MacNit

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PSU is the ONLY P5 program that still has a HC vacancy, AND the only school that lost the incoming recruiting class. Kraft really screwed this up, and it could mean the end to Penn State football as we know it.
Because of a few days? …and the recruiting class has been gone…and the ones that have been here can not beat good teams, anyway.
 

Nitt1300

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I love Joe's Grand Experiment and "Success with Honor but those are dated ideas now. It's just mercenary football now with a race to the top funded by well healed donors. There is no focus on academics, loyalty or anything grandiose. It's all about winning, making bank and raising ticket prices on loyal fans, a lot of whom cannot even afford it anymore
Makes you wonder why anyone still gives a crap, doesn't it?
 

JVP_Yahweh

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Makes you wonder why anyone still gives a crap, doesn't it?
We tapped out after COVID. The 400 mile trips, multi-night stays and seat prices just got to be too much on retirement income. But the real topper was the administration still refusing to honor Joe 10 years after Sandusky. We got a large TV and have adapted. Still miss tailgating but life moves on
 

BobPSU92

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So, byu doesn’t have NIL. o_O , correct? Do they use the transfer portal? Sitake could be a SH|T. SHOW. o_O before he sets foot on campus. Then, it would likely get worse.

We Are!

😞
 

MtNittany

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I love Joe's Grand Experiment and "Success with Honor but those are dated ideas now. It's just mercenary football now with a race to the top funded by well healed donors. There is no focus on academics, loyalty or anything grandiose. It's all about winning, making bank and raising ticket prices on loyal fans, a lot of whom cannot even afford it anymore
I'd like to think there's a little bit of that left - in almost every school and their players. Not a whole lot though.
 
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JVP_Yahweh

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If we hire Sitake, can we remain a Pepsi school?
I know this was a joke but in all seriousness I think the LDS leadership clarified the rules so that caffeine in soda is OK but hot drinks like coffee and tea are still forbidden. At least that was my understanding
 
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PSU4U

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Correct. It is a term used by me and other fans who expect an AD who fires a coach and states publicly in a press release that he was fired for not meeting Penn State’s “standard” of Big and National Championships and says at a press conference held the next day that the fans “deserve” a National Championship to back up that big talk with a home run hire.
Those are not the main reasons he was fired that's what you say when you don't intend to publicly out a traitor and risk a lawsuit. It has been well documented on this board the reason's he was fired something some people ignore because it doesn't fit their narrative.
 
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Nitt1300

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Those are not the main reasons he was fired that's what you say when you don't intend to publicly out a traitor and risk a lawsuit. It has been well documented on this board the reason's he was fired something some people ignore because it doesn't fit their narrative.
90% of what is posted on this and other similar boards is bullshiit- nobody is "documenting" anything and believing internet posters opinions isn't a sign of intelligence.
 

WaffleShopper

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Comments below , if true are a strong denial of PSU interest .

I don’t think there’s much to that quote. He would probably say the same thing whether he’s really interested in the Penn State job or if he has no interest and just wants BYU to pony up some more money. If he was definitely staying and not looking for more money then he would say “I’m not leaving”, especially being so close to signing day.
 

JVP_Yahweh

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I'd like to think there's a little bit of that left - in almost every school and their players. Not a whole lot though.
Maybe in the Ivy's and some D1 schools where kids know they have no shot at big NIL or NFL futures which makes them more focused on getting everything they can academically from their 4 years. But the difference is that it's now focused 100% on the individual making the decision to prioritize academics. We'll never have another Sue Paterno tutoring kids on the Classics or Joe pushing kids to become doctors and lawyers and no school will care about grad rates. Meet the minimum APR and you are good to go
 

SummitLion

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Because of a few days? …and the recruiting class has been gone…and the ones that have been here can not beat good teams, anyway.
LSU, Florida and now UCLA have made announcements in the past few days, so they apparently think a few days makes a big difference.
 

PSU4U

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With this it’s Sitake unless he’s just using us as leverage then it’s back to square 1. Appears PK is lost.
Not buying it for now. Not saying contact wasn't made but that article makes it sound as though these talks are most resent which would be not good for timing at all. To me this would be a 50-50 thing of being smoke screen stuff. Can't wait to here what's said when reporters question him.
 
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Bison13

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Isn't Sexton Sitake's agent? Hope he's not just effing with Kraft to make JF look better
 

fastlax16

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Don't see any real upside with Sitake.

Never coached east of Arizona. Virtually zero recruiting east of the Mississippi.
He recruits at a religious school where his roster is heavily skewed towards that religion and almost exclusively Utah and West. It's a dry campus with an honor code that runs very counter to student life at Penn State.

He isn't going to bring a bunch of his own players with him and he's going to have to recruit an entirely different set of kids geographically and culturally than he's used to.

 
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Efejle

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Kraft has gotten over a dozen high profile coaches huge pay raises while ending up hiring the guy at Gateway high school who couldn't win the big games there either 😂
 

MtNittany

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Maybe in the Ivy's and some D1 schools where kids know they have no shot at big NIL or NFL futures which makes them more focused on getting everything they can academically from their 4 years. But the difference is that it's now focused 100% on the individual making the decision to prioritize academics. We'll never have another Sue Paterno tutoring kids on the Classics or Joe pushing kids to become doctors and lawyers and no school will care about grad rates. Meet the minimum APR and you are good to go
They're out there. For every 3 or 4 families that are drooling over NIL money, there's at least one that is simply proud that Junior is playing at State U, and thankful that it's free of cost.
 

NoSoup4U

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I love Joe's Grand Experiment and "Success with Honor but those are dated ideas now. It's just mercenary football now with a race to the top funded by well healed donors. There is no focus on academics, loyalty or anything grandiose. It's all about winning, making bank and raising ticket prices on loyal fans, a lot of whom cannot even afford it anymore
And thus why its time for me to give em up after 35+ years , if I want to go to a game I will buy via secondary market and try to remember the old days and traditions we had with my kids when they were young or more recently the tailgating traditions we built.

Too many people sending in more money than me making decisions I don't want to be a part of (not that I had any say anyway), they can do without my --'X' and rising--- per year participation.

Make some Noise!
 
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TheWizardofCamelot

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Maybe I’m out of line here - but what does a Mormon from the west coast know about NIL and PA football culture? lol.

This is bizarre, man.

PSU Dylan claiming there’s an offer on the table for 11m/year to Sitake…
 

djmccaslin

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As weird as this all is going, is it possible that it is DeBoer? It seems like such a crazy longshot that doesn't make any sense but I could see him not wanting it getting out until after the CCG. Would at least explain why things are so strange but if so what happens if he wins the CCG? And they are likely going to the playoffs regardless, would he not coach the team?

Nah, too bizarre for that to happen.
Always go with common sense. Why in the world would DeBoer leave Bama? If it makes no sense, then don't pay it any mind.
 
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JVP_Yahweh

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Don't see any real upside with Sitake.

Never coached east of Arizona. Virtually zero recruiting east of the Mississippi.
He recruits at a religious school where his roster is heavily skewed towards that religion and almost exclusively Utah and West. It's a dry campus with an honor code that runs very counter to student life at Penn State.

He isn't going to bring a bunch of his own players with him and he's going to have to recruit an entirely different set of kids geographically and culturally than he's used to.
Have to agree with this. Certainly a good coach at what appears to be his dream school. Can't determine who represents Sitake? Not Sexton...
 

Ludd

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No, he's a scumbag for the reasons he got fired.
So he’s a scumbag for digging us out from under crushing sanctions and putting our program back on the map giving us double digit wins three of the last four years? Wow, what a scumbag.
 
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Binder74

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Kraft has gotten over a dozen high profile coaches huge pay raises while ending up hiring the guy at Gateway high school who couldn't win the big games there either 😂
Maybe he's getting a cut from those salary renegotiations.
 

djmccaslin

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True but coaching is coaching
Trust me, I prefer Hartline but Sitake wins--that's all I care about. I'm sure he'll build a staff with ties to the area. Dude is very likeable.
Super--I feel better that he's likable and a nice guy. That will win games. You can be the best coach in the world but if you ain't got the talent then you are an also-ran. Recruiting is going to nose-dive and I'm not even including this year's class.
 
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KingLando

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Super--I feel better that he's likable and a nice guy. That will win games. You can be the best coach in the world but if you ain't got the talent then you are an also-ran. Recruiting is going to nose-dive and I'm not even including this year's class.
He wins games
What indicates he can't recruit?
I don't understand the reaction? How was Urban successful at Florida when he left Utah?
He'll hire a staff and we'll be fine.
 

TheWizardofCamelot

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Cael is a Mormon that never coached east of Iowa and has done great here
College football and college wrestling are two completely worlds. How is this guy going to go in to Philly and recruit + NIL?

Fire Kraft. Just give it to Terry and let the next AD try a competent search. This SCREAMS desperation.
 
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KingLando

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College football and college wrestling are two completely worlds. How is this guy going to go in to Philly and recruit + NIL?

Fire Kraft. Just give it to Terry and let the next AD try a competent search. This SCREAMS desperation.
How not? Why can't he recruit in Philly?
Sitake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terry Smith