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so people who were complaining that PSU lost their recruiting class are now bitching that the new guys is getting recruits? He doesnt need a class of 5 stars for the 26 class, just 10-15 kids to keep in the program and develop. Seems like retaining the current team, getting some of these underrated 26 recruits in here now and then focusing on the 27 class (now in on LOTS of high level recruits there) and getting some portal guys is the plan. Something that we all knew would happen.
Such intelligent posting has no place on this forum.
 

TheWizardofCamelot

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Has the Heacock speculation become anything more or less? At one point he was coming. The next he was an analyst. Now
D'Anton Lynn to PSU is starting to have legs to the point a USC board is talking about it as a real possibility, including a USC board staffer there indicating talks are happening. We shall see. If you recall, at one point Deboer was coming here as hc, so I don’t take all of these rumors too seriously.

Lynn said no to us a year ago and got a raise there. He did great at UCLA. He has made real significant improvements to the USC defense but not to the point that onecould say they have a great defense by any stretch. But can anyone have a great defense under Riley?
Has the Heacock speculation become anything more or less? At one point he was coming. Then retiring. The next he was an analyst here. Now we're targeting Lynn again to run the defense. Maybe Lynn as DC and an old head in Heacock on his team? I really like the sound of that.

FWIW, Lynn's defenses have never really caught on at USC. Is that Reilly though?
31 to Sparty, 34 to Ill, 34 to ND, 42 to Oregon....
 
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LMTLION

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Has the Heacock speculation become anything more or less? At one point he was coming. The next he was an analyst. Now

Has the Heacock speculation become anything more or less? At one point he was coming. Then retiring. The next he was an analyst here. Now we're targeting Lynn again to run the defense. Maybe Lynn as DC and an old head in Heacock on his team? I really like the sound of that.

FWIW, Lynn's defenses have never really caught on at USC. Is that Reilly though?
31 to Sparty, 34 to Ill, 34 to ND, 42 to Oregon....
I believe Heacock is only coming on as an analyst as he soon heads into retirement . Lynn is an interesting target for the second year in a row, so I wonder if it is Kraft’s desire to have a letterman run that function. While he does not seem like an elite hire, other stats show he is a good coach. In the context of points given up per game (per AI) USC was 121st the year prior to his arrival, then 92nd his first year and 47th thus far this year. Not great results, but good results in terms of improvement. When he was at UCLA he improved their defense from 92nd to 14th. He’s definitely a good coach.
 

rigi19040

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Yes and no, and I hate to use Indiana again as an example, but with proper scouting and development its not how they are rated coming into the program that is important but how they fit into the culture and evolve (88s become 90+ quickly).

I pointed out the 6'6 210 DE as an example because his height weight ratio is not one of a immediate contributor but one of a developmental player and as such that is a pretty nice industry assessment. In the right system, with the right nutrition and strength program, he could easily crest into the 90s.

On the other hand, blue chip ratios, despite Indiana's success, matter.

A better example is Iowa state. Cignetti is not coming here.

Iowa state won 69 games the last 10 years. 7-5 a season if we round up.
 

Itraindogs

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A better example is Iowa state. Cignetti is not coming here.

Iowa state won 69 games the last 10 years. 7-5 a season if we round up.
Which is exceptional given ISU's past. Absolutely remarkable. No resources, talent poor location AND he won., a lot. He identifies and develop players exceptionally well. One reason why he was coveted for HC jobs in both the NFL and college.

But apparently you have an axe to grind, so grind on.
 

rigi19040

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Which is exceptional given ISU's past. Absolutely remarkable. No resources, talent poor location AND he won., a lot. He identifies and develop players exceptionally well. One reason why he was coveted for HC jobs in both the NFL and college.

But apparently you have an axe to grind, so grind on.

What was Indiana's past? We are not getting Cignetti.

I am a realist. You round everything up which never happens.
 
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BobPSU92

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so people who were complaining that PSU lost their recruiting class are now bitching that the new guys is getting recruits? He doesnt need a class of 5 stars for the 26 class, just 10-15 kids to keep in the program and develop. Seems like retaining the current team, getting some of these underrated 26 recruits in here now and then focusing on the 27 class (now in on LOTS of high level recruits there) and getting some portal guys is the plan. Something that we all knew would happen.

NATTY. o_O or bust. For f*ck’s sake.
 

LB99

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so people who were complaining that PSU lost their recruiting class are now bitching that the new guys is getting recruits? He doesnt need a class of 5 stars for the 26 class, just 10-15 kids to keep in the program and develop. Seems like retaining the current team, getting some of these underrated 26 recruits in here now and then focusing on the 27 class (now in on LOTS of high level recruits there) and getting some portal guys is the plan. Something that we all knew would happen.
Agree. I applaud his efforts in salvaging what was a nonexistent 2026 class. He has to, otherwise there could be a deep hole on the roster. As you said, the 2026 class does not have to be full of blue chips. However, going forward, the subsequent classes do need to have blue chips to keep up with the Joneses. Bama didn’t win all those titles with 3 stars. Neither did UGA or Ohio State. Their coaching wasn’t that much superior to everyone else that they could take anybody and make them national champs. As Joe used to say, it’s about the Jimmys and Joes. I trust that Campbell will do a great job. He’s a smart, successful guy.
 
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LB99

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Yes and no, and I hate to use Indiana again as an example, but with proper scouting and development its not how they are rated coming into the program that is important but how they fit into the culture and evolve (88s become 90+ quickly).

I pointed out the 6'6 210 DE as an example because his height weight ratio is not one of a immediate contributor but one of a developmental player and as such that is a pretty nice industry assessment. In the right system, with the right nutrition and strength program, he could easily crest into the 90s.

On the other hand, blue chip ratios, despite Indiana's success, matter.
Indiana is lightning in a bottle. The run will end at some point with lesser talent. I don’t care how good of a coach Cignetti is.
 

LB99

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He will. More to sell here plus more resources. It will come. Unlike BGJ, who could pull 4 star guys all day long, only to regress due to poor coaching and an individual, not team mentality. Tone is set at the top.
I get that bashing Franklin every day on here is en vogue, but this is a bit of hyperbole. Franklin has had a fair share of first round picks at PSU. There have been plenty of all conference players also, like Barkley, Godwin, Gesicki, Warren, Olu, Vega, Abdul, Parsons, Chop, etc. Saying that they regressed here isn’t really accurate. Franklin pulled a lot of talent to PSU. Some excelled, some didn’t. That s true of all programs. Just because you didn’t like him doesn’t take away the accomplishments of the program and it’s players while he was the HC.
 

LionsAndBears

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Indiana is lightning in a bottle. The run will end at some point with lesser talent. I don’t care how good of a coach Cignetti is.

Agreed. Once this crop of players are done, IU will drop back into the middle of the B1G because IU won't be able to recruit the players necessary to keep this run going.

Cignetti is creating his own demise at IU. His arrogance will start to rub Hoosier fans the wrong way when they're no longer at the top.
 

olelion

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Agreed. Once this crop of players are done, IU will drop back into the middle of the B1G because IU won't be able to recruit the players necessary to keep this run going.

Cignetti is creating his own demise at IU. His arrogance will start to rub Hoosier fans the wrong way when they're no longer at the top.
Last year was the lightning in a bottle. This year they were pooh-poohed going into this year and now look. Everyone is begging on bended knee that they are not sustainable. Wait and see when they shift to a recruiting/transfer blend. Sorry, but they're here to stay
 

Binder74

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Agreed. Once this crop of players are done, IU will drop back into the middle of the B1G because IU won't be able to recruit the players necessary to keep this run going.

Cignetti is creating his own demise at IU. His arrogance will start to rub Hoosier fans the wrong way when they're no longer at the top.
I don't know. They loved Bobby Knight.
 

LB99

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Last year was the lightning in a bottle. This year they were pooh-poohed going into this year and now look. Everyone is begging on bended knee that they are not sustainable. Wait and see when they shift to a recruiting/transfer blend. Sorry, but they're here to stay
The core group he brought from JMU is still there. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a really good coach, but this probably isn’t sustainable at a school like Indiana.
 

JoeBagobagels

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Last year was the lightning in a bottle. This year they were pooh-poohed going into this year and now look. Everyone is begging on bended knee that they are not sustainable. Wait and see when they shift to a recruiting/transfer blend. Sorry, but they're here to stay
They will continue to excel, they are committed to spending money and have the alumni to continue funding the program.
 

DaytonRickster

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Last year was the lightning in a bottle. This year they were pooh-poohed going into this year and now look. Everyone is begging on bended knee that they are not sustainable. Wait and see when they shift to a recruiting/transfer blend. Sorry, but they're here to stay
I agree.
 

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The Great Santucci
Excellent leader of men. Extremely intense in the locker room. Mostly feared by his players but respected by all. Questionable family man though with a history of domestic abuse. Very confrontational. Has experience in coaching and demands the most from his players. Hates to lose, REALLY hates to lose. Looks exactly like a young Robert DuVall. Would be an interesting but controversial choice
 
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Who is Tyler Santucci?
Illegitimate son of this man?
 

Itraindogs

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Indiana is lightning in a bottle. The run will end at some point with lesser talent. I don’t care how good of a coach Cignetti is.
I am not in the business of predicting what will or will not happen at IU. What we have seen is a program (IU) comprised of unheralded players compete and win at the highest level of the sport. The success has been so glaring that everyone lined up to hire Cignetti, including PSU. The fact that he took JMU players and in year two beat Oregon and OSU speaks volumes on the the value of identifying and developing talent rather than star gaze. He took Mendoza from Cal and developed him to win the Heisman. That was the initial point. Indiana has doubled down on their gambit by again, in 2026, taking twenty two players comprised of only 4 4* and the remaining 3*. Will the gambit be successful? I do not know. What I do know is that talent evaluation and development is vastly more important to having really talented players that 1. You do not develop (stay stagnant or regressed) and 2. do not fit. Number two, was patently obvious this year at Penn State. For all the talent at some positions there were pieces that were missing or undeveloped (LB and DT) that led to the colossal flop that was PSU "national" aspirations. The singular inability of this program to identify, recruit and develop QBs and as a result draw high level WRs to PSU is the result of sub-optimal coaching, if not coaching malpractice.

So, I am very interested to see how Campbell, who is an excellent evaluator and developer of talent, does with more resources in a talent rich environment.
 

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I get that bashing Franklin every day on here is en vogue, but this is a bit of hyperbole. Franklin has had a fair share of first round picks at PSU. There have been plenty of all conference players also, like Barkley, Godwin, Gesicki, Warren, Olu, Vega, Abdul, Parsons, Chop, etc. Saying that they regressed here isn’t really accurate. Franklin pulled a lot of talent to PSU. Some excelled, some didn’t. That s true of all programs. Just because you didn’t like him doesn’t take away the accomplishments of the program and its players while he was the HC.

I get that bashing Franklin every day on here is en vogue, but this is a bit of hyperbole. Franklin has had a fair share of first round picks at PSU. There have been plenty of all conference players also, like Barkley, Godwin, Gesicki, Warren, Olu, Vega, Abdul, Parsons, Chop, etc. Saying that they regressed here isn’t really accurate. Franklin pulled a lot of talent to PSU. Some excelled, some didn’t. That s true of all programs. Just because you didn’t like him doesn’t take away the accomplishments of the program and it’s players while he was the HC.
Your points are fair. I was painting with a broad brush with my comment.

But I do think it is also very fair to say he was not the best developer of talent without immediately being labeled a Franklin hater, don’t you? Identifier of talent? Without question, elite. We were usually the first to offer guys before their stock went into the stratosphere.
 
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LB99

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I am not in the business of predicting what will or will not happen at IU. What we have seen is a program (IU) comprised of unheralded players compete and win at the highest level of the sport. The success has been so glaring that everyone lined up to hire Cignetti, including PSU. The fact that he took JMU players and in year two beat Oregon and OSU speaks volumes on the the value of identifying and developing talent rather than star gaze. He took Mendoza from Cal and developed him to win the Heisman. That was the initial point. Indiana has doubled down on their gambit by again, in 2026, taking twenty two players comprised of only 4 4* and the remaining 3*. Will the gambit be successful? I do not know. What I do know is that talent evaluation and development is vastly more important to having really talented players that 1. You do not develop (stay stagnant or regressed) and 2. do not fit. Number two, was patently obvious this year at Penn State. For all the talent at some positions there were pieces that were missing or undeveloped (LB and DT) that led to the colossal flop that was PSU "national" aspirations. The singular inability of this program to identify, recruit and develop QBs and as a result draw high level WRs to PSU is the result of sub-optimal coaching, if not coaching malpractice.

So, I am very interested to see how Campbell, who is an excellent evaluator and developer of talent, does with more resources in a talent rich environment.
I’m not sure the talent was lacking at PSU this year. I think what we saw was a locker room divided and a coaching staff and team that weren’t on the same page at multiple levels.
 
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Itraindogs

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I’m not sure the talent was lacking at PSU this year. I think what we saw was a locker room divided and a coaching staff and team that weren’t on the same page at multiple levels.
There was talent, for sure, but it was not properly distributed. There were glaring holes on the roster, especially at LB and DT, that the coaching staff should have either prepared for or addressed through the portal. They failed to do so.