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Hasn't stopped you ******** from recrootin South Panola. The problem is, you don't have the O plan in effect anymore.
 

AzzurriDawg4

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He goes to James F Byrnes HS.

Despite what the ***-clown is saying, he is a nice pickup. Does have a way to go on grades though...but everyone is going to qualify that is committed to Ole Miss.
 

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DiamondReb said:
that should tell you something.
Only visits to OM:

Evan Swindall
Stephen Houston
Eric Smiley
Charles Sawyer
Rodney Scott
Montez Phillips
Cameron Whigham
Michael Brown
Terrell Grant
Tyler Campbell
Dele Juniad
Gabe Hunter
Mike Thomas
Demarcus Knight
Emmanuel McCrary

What must you tell yourself in all these cases?
 

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dawgatUSM said:
DiamondReb said:
that should tell you something.
Only visits to OM:

Evan Swindall - walk on
Stephen Houston - greyshirt/JUCO
Eric Smiley - JUCO
Charles Sawyer
Rodney Scott
Montez Phillips - walk on
Cameron Whigham - greyshirt/may be going elsewhere
Michael Brown
Terrell Grant
Tyler Campbell
Dele Juniad
Gabe Hunter - greyshirt
Mike Thomas - greyshirt
Demarcus Knight
Emmanuel McCrary

What must you tell yourself in all these cases?
Plus your point makes no sense as all of these guys were commited to OM before the official visit process got cranked up. Some for months before. There is a huge difference in being commited somewhere and not visiting others and not being commited but still only taking one visit ... on the last weekend. If all those offers were legit don't you think he would have visited them?

Also it's laughable that you put McCray and Grant on that list.
 

Emanonion

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another 2 walkons on that list, and at least 1 amybe 2 sign and place, so thats about right I would say. Why Diamondreb is so concerned about this is what I dont understand. Why do you care so much Diamondreb?
 

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Mullen has bombed at recruiting. He had his class handed to him. Perkins was the one good get he's gotten. Losing Ricky Johnson to Tulsa...wow.

Sanders going to JUCO is a fact...the rest was JMO.
 

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DiamondReb said:
dawgatUSM said:
DiamondReb said:
that should tell you something.
Only visits to OM:

Evan Swindall - walk on
Stephen Houston - greyshirt/JUCO
Eric Smiley - JUCO
Charles Sawyer
Rodney Scott
Montez Phillips - walk on
Cameron Whigham - greyshirt/may be going elsewhere
Michael Brown
Terrell Grant
Tyler Campbell
Dele Juniad
Gabe Hunter - greyshirt
Mike Thomas - greyshirt
Demarcus Knight
Emmanuel McCrary

What must you tell yourself in all these cases?
Plus your point makes no sense as all of these guys were commited to OM before the official visit process got cranked up. Some for months before. There is a huge difference in being commited somewhere and not visiting others and not being commited but still only taking one visit ... on the last weekend. If all those offers were legit don't you think he would have visited them?

Also it's laughable that you put McCray and Grant on that list.
And who's to say that this guy is not a sign and place, greyshirt, walk on or whatever.... I understand everything you just said. I'm just making fun of you making a concerted effort to hijack a thread about a State commit on a Miss. State board... Congrats on knowing entirely too much about our recruits
 

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diamondreb on/

well obviously they saw the ipf and knew that om was the only place in the universe worth a ****

diamondreb off/
 

AzzurriDawg4

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We would have never landed Bumphis, Perkins, Conner, and probably no Cox and no Boyd had Mullen and Co. not done a good job.

Dear Coach Nutt,

The high school players in the State of Mississippi love you.

Signed,
...
 

Emanonion

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hyjack a thread about a new recruit. Wait till next year to see if Mullen will bomb on recruiting, because from what was left for him it is hard to tell what he would have done by himself.
 

dawgatUSM

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Bumphis was probably headed elsewhere until he visited... You could make the same argument for Thames.... Ricky Johnson is one of those odd cases that just happens every now and then. Tulsa was on him much longer than state was. But I guess if that's the case then LSU, Arky, Ga. Tech, Michigan, Nebraska, and Tenn. all suck at recruiting too.... GET OUT OF HERE YOU TOOL
 

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The part about the recruits of Ms liking Nutt. Nutt has only been recruiting Ms just over a year now. Croom had been here almost 5 and handed Mullen a very good start and even had most of those guys close before Mullen had to even know who they were. Next year will tell the tale so to speak.
 

AzzurriDawg4

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The Cotton Bowl should really start helping next year for yall. I agree with your post.

DiamondReb just pissed me off.
 

dawgatUSM

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I think it's doing Mullen a disservice though to not give him credit for keeping this class in tact minus Rodgers (who was probably gone anyway)... Plus, the Ricky Johnson comment pushed me over the edge
 

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a lot of those recruits could have easily jumped ship when the season went to hell and there was a coaching change. Being in Ms alone would have gotten a good many of them a shot at Ole Miss and the fact that there are some top notch guys like Cox, Boyd, and McPhee that stuck with you all is very good. Mullen has done a great job of keeping the biggest part of them together. Next year will be a lot tougher for him because he probably has little to no relationships with any of the coaches in the area and it will take some work to get those relationships going. Also our recent success in the Cotton bowl will help us because it will be fresh on their mind, another hurdle for Mullen.
 

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it's douchebags like him (which is pretty much all of you) that are making this board damn near unreadable. This isn't a MSU message board now. It's a "let's see what kind of a condescending remark we can go make on the former MSU message board because OM had a good football season finally" message board. This board has become worse than eggbowl.com.
 

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has bombed recruiting? So you don't even take into consideration that he has held the exisisting class together? What about Chad Bumphis?
 

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I'm honestly not sure that Croom would have kept Russell if he had stayed. And there's no way in hell that Bumphis, Perkins, and Thames would be coming. Not only that, I think Skinner would be gone as well, and probably Fletcher Cox. And while he may not get Patterson, it's certainly not from a lack of effort on his part. Hell, Croom just gave up on Patterson. And I also think that he will develop some pretty good relationships in Mississippi high school because you know what a lot of high schools are running now?- Yep, the spread. I could see where a lot of those coaches would be interested in going to a clinic run by the guy that was running one of the most successful spreads in all of football and coached under Urban Meyer.

Based on what Mullen has done in two months- in light of your Cotton Bowl victory mind you- I'd say that he is going to be a pretty good recruiter.
 

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DiamondReb said:
that should tell you something.
Ricco Sanders is a 3 star RB/WR who was also offered by Clemson, FSU, USC, and several SEC teams. He is ranked the #88 WR by Scout, and runs a sub 4.4. He is making ground up in getting qualified. Yes, his grades were an issue with his recruitment, but he has a 50:50 chance right now to make an ACT score high enough to qualify and not get kicked back by the Clearinghouse. He was recruited by Mullen and another former UF coach at State when UF backed away because of grades, Meyer said, "go ahead after him Dan." Mullen is not recruiting any UF commitments, but has the green light to go after players who passed on UF and committed to other schools. Guys like Greg Reid, Jamal Reid, Ricco Sanders, and Damien Thigpen, a 4 star RB from Manassas, Virginia. They all have the same thing in common, exceptional speed, most sub 4.4. No, we won't get all of them, but we have a good chance with a few. They all know we are looking for WR, that we plan to use 8 in rotation, and only have 3 returning lettermen.
 

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...about a B average the remainder of the year, plus an ACT score increase of about 2 points. He has two more chances with the ACT. I hear he is getting tutoring for both school and the ACT. In an interview he told BDJ he is really buckling down and working on his grades. This is a case where a kid realized almost too late that grades were very important. Darius Slay is in the same fix. I am not saying they will qualify, but they are not in the hopeless category. DiamondReb was making fun of his being a grade casualty, but Ole Miss now has 31 commitments, says they will sign 3-4 more, so they are counting on at least 6, maybe 9, not qualifying. The difference is their "Daddy Rabbits" pay most of the $26,000 per year tuition at Hargrave, which gives only limited partial scholarships. If you noticed, they signed about 6 players from Hargrave last year. Ours go to Juco in Mississippi, and have 2 years to play. They send theirs to Hargrave, get them qualified, and then they have 4 years to play. We had one player in the last 4 years that went to Hargrave, then back to MSU and that was Anthony Johnson. His parents both graduated from MSU and could afford to send him. Who sent all those Ole Miss players? Powe, the Jerry brothers, etc. Did they have "Dickie Scruggs Scholarships?" Did they have Sean Touhy adoptions? DiamondReb?
 

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Emanonion said:
The part about the recruits of Ms liking Nutt. Nutt has only been recruiting Ms just over a year now. Croom had been here almost 5 and handed Mullen a very good start and even had most of those guys close before Mullen had to even know who they were. Next year will tell the tale so to speak.

So you're saying Nutt wasn't handed a good start by Coach O?
 

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Nor did I even compare the first classes of each coach. Also if you were to have followed the class Ole Miss had last year you would have seen Nutt pretty much dismantle it and start over because of all the grade problems in it. I believe when Nutt got to Ole Miss there were about 20 committed and in the next few weeks he told some of them they were no longer welcome and a few others that they would be sign and place at best, at which time they looked elsewhere. Nutt added about 10-12 people after he got there. So to answer your question, no I do not think O left as good of a start for Nutt as Croom left for Mullen.
 

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...we can sure count on you for exceeding sunshine.

Even Rosebowl says that this guy won't qualify. Slay either. He says they're both sign and place guys.</p>

That said, DiamondReb is still a freaking retard. Only a mental midget would call Mullen a failure at this point. DR should be embarrassed that his school didn't perform better head-to-head for recruits against MSU, given the fact that they had a great year and we had a losing season and fired our coach. Oh, and probably 35-40% of this class would be signing elsewhere on Wednesday if Croom were still in the driver's seat.</p>
 

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...with much of what you have said to this point, but I'm not so sure about this:

no I do not think O left as good of a start for Nutt as Croom left for Mullen.
Orgeron left Nutt a ****-ton of talent. Now, this past recruiting class may have had some casualties, but it was pretty beefy initially, and it was up to Nutt to shore it up.

In our case, I reject categorically that Croom gift-wrapped a great class for Mullen. Those guys were like rats jumping off a sinking ship. Several had reopened their recruitment, even solid commits like Russell and Boyd. Mullen basically had to re-recruit the whole lot of them. Now, yeah, the initial contact was made and that helped, but a lot of these guys were looking around. I predict that without Mullen's effort, we would've seen Bumphis, Thames, Berry, Cox, McPhee, Conner, Perkins, and probably Russell headed elsewhere. And I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple. So, as much as DiamondReb is trying to flame, clearly, Mullen has done a great job to this point.

Edited to add: I didn't even get into what Croom left Mullen to work with on the field, but we can safely say it was generally shittastic in nature: depleted defensive talent, terrible offensive line, thin receiving corps, a midget QB, a RB ill-suited for the new guy's system, and a special teams unit (what was left of it) that was the laughinstock of college football.
 

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I do agree that Mullen had to reassure many of the recruits to keep them around, but Mullens background helped out a lot there. O's recruiting class as he was going out was by far his weakest and I believe it had to do with the fact that recruits werent buying the BS of building the team anymore because we had continued to suck. You are right that O left a lot of talent for Nutt from his previous classes though, something Mullen doesnt have the benefit of.
 

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Bulldog Backer said:
...about a B average the remainder of the year, plus an ACT score increase of about 2 points. He has two more chances with the ACT. I hear he is getting tutoring for both school and the ACT. In an interview he told BDJ he is really buckling down and working on his grades.
You have to work at being stupid to not make make an 18. My niece just took the ACT, without any tutors (and, from what I've seen, without any prior preparation) and made a 25. And, no, I don't understand why it'd be so hard to pass a test where you can make a 20 if you haven't been stoned in class since 3rd grade.
 
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