http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20100122/SPORTS08/1220325/1127
I am all for it, makes gun season longer and moves primitive weapon season....
I am all for it, makes gun season longer and moves primitive weapon season....
New Deer Hunting Season......
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http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20100122/SPORTS08/1220325/1127
I am all for it, makes gun season longer and moves primitive weapon season....
I am all for it, makes gun season longer and moves primitive weapon season....
means that you can bow hunt all year long. They are trying to replace the number of hunters that we have lost over the last 10 - 20 years. With some of the guns that they are allowing for primative weapons it only makes sense to lengthen rifle season. Our state is becoming over-populated with deer and this could help mediate some of that population growth. </p>
Bowhunters are worried about a waning interest in bowhunting if this passes? Otherwise, what's the problem? We know the MBA is opposed, but they don't really give any reasons.
That doesn't make any sense. You are saying that becausey the allow certain single shot rifles during the December and January primitive weapon season, that they should removed nearly half of the bow only season and replace it with a rifle season????treedawg said:
Most gun hunters that I know don't even hunt the entire gun season as it is. Most have quit hunting by now, even though primitave weapons are allowed thru the end of this month. Moving guns season further back (into football season) will just make people loose interest sooner. It's not as if hunters "lost over the last 10-20 years" were lost because their isn't enough time to hunt.treedawg said:
tommyboy1520 said:
As a bowhunter, I'll give you my reasons:
-It's a lot safer to hunt during the archery only season. All the accidental shootings happen during gun season. Archers don't shoot something they can't see. Especially when hunting public land, the gun season can be flat out dangerous.
-Outside of the rut, the archery only season is the best time of the year to kill a mature buck. Once the gun season starts, most older bucks go nocturnal.
-It becomes a lot tougher to bowhunt once gun season begins. Deer are much less jumpy and nervous during the archery only season. The deer also seem to move a lot more in the daily hours before the gun season begins. It sounds backwards, but I see plenty of deer just wandering around at 2pm during archery season.
I don't hunt the whole rifle season as well, but with my schedule I could take advantage of the early primitive season. I think this is a great proposal and hopefully it will pass.
I'm with you DerHnter. I hunt starting with a bow and hunt till the last day.
What I would like to see is throw out the so called primitive weapon (guns), my 45-70 is pretty darn accurate at 200 yds. Times have changed and Mississippi has way too many does, I'd like to see a two week season (starting before gun season) of nothing but doe kills!
Hwy 25, world's longest green patch!
What I would like to see is throw out the so called primitive weapon (guns), my 45-70 is pretty darn accurate at 200 yds. Times have changed and Mississippi has way too many does, I'd like to see a two week season (starting before gun season) of nothing but doe kills!
Hwy 25, world's longest green patch!
While we are on deer hunting......What is the actual difference between planting a 1 acre food plot and a pile of corn or sweet potatoes? Both are used to get animals to come to a certain area to hopefully make a clean ethical shot.
We hunted ducks that morning starting at 5+AM.... The clouds were absolutely on the ground that day (and most of the day). After the hunt we headed from the Refuge to Hwy. 25 about 10 or so miles S. of Starkville.. "Car hit still kicking (literally) does" all over the sides of the road at 10:00AM. Call me a road kill collector, but when they are head hit and still kicking; I'm not too proud to get some back straps and jalepeno & cheese sausage out of the deal! There is a guy over in Big Creek that makes the absolute best deer sausage I've ever eaten. Ok... everybody can laugh at me now.. I don't give a 17.... Florida Deer are some skinny MF'ers!basedog said:
Edit to say: There are way too many Does in Mississippi!
I wonder if they will ever allow corn piles like Texas. I don't call it hunting and don't like it, but it would be cool if there was a Bow season with bait (2-3 weeks). I do prefer bow hunting over gun. You see more and bigger bucks before all the gunfire. How many bachelor groups of bucks do you see during gun season? Not many right......Nothing like it.
So starting earlier with primitive weapons .444 etc would help with decreasing the size of the herd. I see no reason why it won't pass.[b said:
earlier.The bucks are still in summer pattern which ends the first week of Oct .Cause crops get harvested and acorns begin to drop as fall begins. Plus Sawtooth acorns start falling and peak in mid September and are thru by 2 weekend OCT.. Plus a full moon( which sux) on opening weekend in Oct. All bowhunters should push for Earlier season. No reason not too. Georgia opens 1st of Sept. Ark and Tenn open mid Sept.
If it gets more people out there hunting then great. Mississippi is about to have a serious problem with deer populations.
It's a great idea. It's similar to what AL does. MS has had it wrong for a long time. It's time to fix it. Thank you Bo Eaton!
November 1-15 tend to be a lot warmer than February 1-15. So why have deer hunting when the mosquitoes are everywhere? Early February seems better than early November.
Then again, I'm a novice hunter. So enlighten me if I'm off track.
Then again, I'm a novice hunter. So enlighten me if I'm off track.
As a lifetime MBA member myself, I feel that extending the gun season is not the answer here. This would create a huge impact to the interest of bowhunting. We have already experienced a decline in interest over the last few years. It seems to me that the common thought process of hunters in today's society is to make the sport easier. I assume the definition of hunting today has changed. Hunting used to be more centered around the pursuit of the hunt and the experience, instead of so much the kill. I do believe that the old thought process does stillexists, but it will mostly be found with true bowhunters. If we keep going down the road leading to the "any weapon you want season", the old thought process that magnified the values of the sportwill almost completely disappear. It makes me sick to my stomach to see how badly people just want to shoot fish in a barrel.
DesotoCountyDawg said:
But these bills aren't necessarily going to do that. Do you really think there are non-hunters who look at the season and say "Damn, the gun season is only 10 weeks long. I'm not going to become a hunter until the gun season is 13-14 weeks long." And as far as existing hunters hunting more, I don't buy that either. Most people kill the number of deer they need to have meat throughout the year and then no more. By now, the vast majority of people have already killed all the deer they wanted to and have quit hunting, even though there are 2 more weekends left in the season. Pushing the season back is just going to cause hunters to lose interest earlier.
My biggest problem with these proposals, as well as all the wildlife proposals, is that they are made by politicians. Every year there are some controversial hunting bills that get proposed (hunting over bait, season lengths, bag limits, antler restrictions, etc etc) by these representatives who have absolutely zero qualifications to do so. This state has a team of Wildlife Biologist who spend their career studying our different species of game. They are the only ones who should be making these determinations, not some damn agenda driven a-hole state rep. Of course that would never happen because the house and senate would never vote to take away their power and give it to somebody who is qualified.
sardis said:
What would that have to do with starting the gun season earlier????? These bills are to extend the gun season. They are to start it earlier.
The state is divided into 3 zones. The season for the coastal zone continues thru mid Feb. which covers their rut (the state's latest). Creating a state wide early gun season would have no affect the rut. The rut in all zones of the state is covered by the current gun seasons.
Here's a story that is doe related...
My parents live on 2600 acres in Greene County. For those that don't know, that's south MS, just north of George County.
Anyway, my family used to be commercial corn farmers, but since my PaPa passed away, none of the uncles or grandkids wanted to do it. Now, the family does about 400 of yellow corn each year for feed, then everyone can plant whatever else they want.
Anyway, the last few years, because the doe population in Greene County is one of the highest in the state, the state has required via a doe tag to kill a certain amount of yearly. It started @ 20 about 5 years ago, and has moved up to 52 this year. They are even threatening to withhold future licenses if my stepdad and uncles don't provide "proof" of these kills(not sure how you do that, but that is what they are threatening my family with). I say all this, and think it is important to know that I don't hunt. I have just never enjoyed it.
This year, I was forced to hunt because we HAD to kill this many does. So, about three weeks ago over Christmas holidays, we invited families to bring there children in for a child's hunt. Over those two days, we killed 14 does. Probably saw 100 or more. They are out of control. They are coming up to the porch of the house and eating the dogs food at night, while the dogs are inside.
So, my point is this....if this state doesn't do something about the deer population here, especially the does, it is going to be a catastrophe in 10 years. We simply HAVE to start killing more. IT wouldn't surprise me if the state upped my families number to 100 within 5 years. Last, I think it would help the male population grow larger without so many does. Not sure if I am right on this, but my stepdad seems to agree. When the does outnumber the males 4-1, it's a battle for every piece of food out there.
My parents live on 2600 acres in Greene County. For those that don't know, that's south MS, just north of George County.
Anyway, my family used to be commercial corn farmers, but since my PaPa passed away, none of the uncles or grandkids wanted to do it. Now, the family does about 400 of yellow corn each year for feed, then everyone can plant whatever else they want.
Anyway, the last few years, because the doe population in Greene County is one of the highest in the state, the state has required via a doe tag to kill a certain amount of yearly. It started @ 20 about 5 years ago, and has moved up to 52 this year. They are even threatening to withhold future licenses if my stepdad and uncles don't provide "proof" of these kills(not sure how you do that, but that is what they are threatening my family with). I say all this, and think it is important to know that I don't hunt. I have just never enjoyed it.
This year, I was forced to hunt because we HAD to kill this many does. So, about three weeks ago over Christmas holidays, we invited families to bring there children in for a child's hunt. Over those two days, we killed 14 does. Probably saw 100 or more. They are out of control. They are coming up to the porch of the house and eating the dogs food at night, while the dogs are inside.
So, my point is this....if this state doesn't do something about the deer population here, especially the does, it is going to be a catastrophe in 10 years. We simply HAVE to start killing more. IT wouldn't surprise me if the state upped my families number to 100 within 5 years. Last, I think it would help the male population grow larger without so many does. Not sure if I am right on this, but my stepdad seems to agree. When the does outnumber the males 4-1, it's a battle for every piece of food out there.
And just throw in some more controversy, they should legalize baiting. I don't bait and would not bait if it were legal but it would be one less thing that game wardens have to spend so much time on.
I have a cousin that farms in Claiborne County and Warren County. They cannot farm as many soybeans because there are so many deer that they destroy them in the fields. Sadly what is probably going to happen is that they are going to get so overpopulated that disease is going to set in we will see a massive kill off.
I probably hunt more with my bow than my gun even in gun season. But those arrogant bastards need to be shot with their own bows because of their, "if you dont hunt with what we approve as a bow, then you should not be able to hunt in OUR woods during OUR hunting season". They twist the facts.The mba is a small minority of the actual bow hunters. 17 'em
I assume MagnoliaHunter is talking about crossbows. You are absolutely right. We do not want you in the woods during "our" season with a weapon that you use your trigger finger to fire. We might be small number of the actual bowhunters,but our members our more passionateabout what we believe in than any other group of hunters. For example, look at that all the states around us that have fallen to crossbow legislations. The MBA fights harder than anybody to ensure Mississippi's archery season stays pure. We alsofought for ten years to restore the late archery season. Manybenefits that bowhunterstake for granted today and don't even think anything about became about because of the MBA. We do not twist facts.
I actually can't stand it for a dog to mess up a still hunt on my property. If they can keep them on their land(not likely) then I guess I'm ok with it. Some say it's more exciting and harder to shoot because they are running. Some say it's not a clean hunt(more non-lethal shot wounds) and unethical. Again, if it's your land, then have at it.