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Mikey Likes It

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Also, Mitch doesn't pick the bowl game, they pick us. You can damn well bet if UK only gets "picked" by a bowl game that conflicts with a basketball game he will act totally irresponsible and gladly accept it. Sheer Matt Jones ignorance on full display here folks.
Actually he can receive multiple offers and turn one down if he so chooses but he can also lobby bowl reps for consideration.
 

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I might even try to go to the bowl if I can, but I'm not missing the basketball game to do it.
It's a road game at Ole Miss. You're placing the same level of importance on a regular season SEC basketball game as a bowl game. That's not coexisting. Many people would consider me a basketball first fan but I can live without watching us beat Ole Miss by 20 in December.
 

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For the players, I got to think a bowl game in Florida would be a GREAT reward. And with the number of returning players that might be the kick start towards a strong 2017 season. If basketball were a strong consideration then UK would likely be playing in the Liberty Bowl IMO.

I think UK is on the uptick and the bowls are actually pretty eager to have UK play in their bowl game. Thus I think the TaxSlayer and UK would be a good fit.

I don't like the idea of UK vs GaTech. I would prefer a Miami matchup.
 
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The bowls in this pool—the Outback Bowl, TaxSlayer Bowl, Music City Bowl, Texas Bowl, Belk Bowl and Liberty—are filled by the SEC in conjuncture with the individual bowls and schools.

All I'm saying is according to that above, the SEC, bowls, and schools all work together in selecting where the school goes. Mitch represents the school and he cares about all sports. That is why I've maintained that I believe the basketball game and the football game being on the same day might eliminate a bowl from consideration. You know Mitch will go into these talks using that to help with our bowl selection. Who's to say that isn't the reason the Belk Bowl talk has died down some and the TaxSlayer has picked up?

You football first people take it as a slight when I said I don't want to sacrifice one sport for the other. That is because I enjoy them equally and want to watch them both live and some of us don't have DVRs. I might even try to go to the bowl if I can, but I'm not missing the basketball game to do it. I'm sure there are plenty of other fans that feel the same way. That is why I said Mitch would have failed in considering this and that is also why I don't think he did and we will get a better bowl because of it.

Football and basketball have to coexist here unlike most SEC schools. That is why I think that will be one of the deciding factors in our bowl destination. We are the flagship of the conference in basketball and I think that is still worth something to the SEC.
All this and you have no idea that the basketball game you are talking about is an away game at Ole Miss... [eyeroll]
 

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The bowls in this pool—the Outback Bowl, TaxSlayer Bowl, Music City Bowl, Texas Bowl, Belk Bowl and Liberty—are filled by the SEC in conjuncture with the individual bowls and schools.

All I'm saying is according to that above, the SEC, bowls, and schools all work together in selecting where the school goes. Mitch represents the school and he cares about all sports. That is why I've maintained that I believe the basketball game and the football game being on the same day might eliminate a bowl from consideration. You know Mitch will go into these talks using that to help with our bowl selection. Who's to say that isn't the reason the Belk Bowl talk has died down some and the TaxSlayer has picked up?

You football first people take it as a slight when I said I don't want to sacrifice one sport for the other. That is because I enjoy them equally and want to watch them both live and some of us don't have DVRs. I might even try to go to the bowl if I can, but I'm not missing the basketball game to do it. I'm sure there are plenty of other fans that feel the same way. That is why I said Mitch would have failed in considering this and that is also why I don't think he did and we will get a better bowl because of it.

Football and basketball have to coexist here unlike most SEC schools. That is why I think that will be one of the deciding factors in our bowl destination. We are the flagship of the conference in basketball and I think that is still worth something to the SEC.
Stop...just stop. You're flat out wrong. We get a significant payout from the bowl game....no athletics department chooses a conflicting conference road basketball game as a reason to turn down a big payout. None. Nowhere. They will ask Ole Miss to move tipoff to accomodate our fans who want to watch both...but that is the extent of it. You go for the best bowl game, period. Only our fans have to deal with this lunacy. Even North Carolina fans understand this basic concept.
 
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The bowls in this pool—the Outback Bowl, TaxSlayer Bowl, Music City Bowl, Texas Bowl, Belk Bowl and Liberty—are filled by the SEC in conjuncture with the individual bowls and schools.

All I'm saying is according to that above, the SEC, bowls, and schools all work together in selecting where the school goes. Mitch represents the school and he cares about all sports. That is why I've maintained that I believe the basketball game and the football game being on the same day might eliminate a bowl from consideration. You know Mitch will go into these talks using that to help with our bowl selection. Who's to say that isn't the reason the Belk Bowl talk has died down some and the TaxSlayer has picked up?

You football first people take it as a slight when I said I don't want to sacrifice one sport for the other. That is because I enjoy them equally and want to watch them both live and some of us don't have DVRs. I might even try to go to the bowl if I can, but I'm not missing the basketball game to do it. I'm sure there are plenty of other fans that feel the same way. That is why I said Mitch would have failed in considering this and that is also why I don't think he did and we will get a better bowl because of it.

Football and basketball have to coexist here unlike most SEC schools. That is why I think that will be one of the deciding factors in our bowl destination. We are the flagship of the conference in basketball and I think that is still worth something to the SEC.

I have heard that if we go to Charlotte, the basketball game might be postponed for an hour (from 8 to 9) so Cat fans can get to their hotels and watch the game and/or the football game doesn't bleed over top of the basketball game if you're at home watching both.

With that, I think we're headed to Jacksonville unless some unforeseen results happen this Saturday.
 

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The bowls in this pool—the Outback Bowl, TaxSlayer Bowl, Music City Bowl, Texas Bowl, Belk Bowl and Liberty—are filled by the SEC in conjuncture with the individual bowls and schools.

All I'm saying is according to that above, the SEC, bowls, and schools all work together in selecting where the school goes. Mitch represents the school and he cares about all sports. That is why I've maintained that I believe the basketball game and the football game being on the same day might eliminate a bowl from consideration. You know Mitch will go into these talks using that to help with our bowl selection. Who's to say that isn't the reason the Belk Bowl talk has died down some and the TaxSlayer has picked up?

You football first people take it as a slight when I said I don't want to sacrifice one sport for the other. That is because I enjoy them equally and want to watch them both live and some of us don't have DVRs. I might even try to go to the bowl if I can, but I'm not missing the basketball game to do it. I'm sure there are plenty of other fans that feel the same way. That is why I said Mitch would have failed in considering this and that is also why I don't think he did and we will get a better bowl because of it.

Football and basketball have to coexist here unlike most SEC schools. That is why I think that will be one of the deciding factors in our bowl destination. We are the flagship of the conference in basketball and I think that is still worth something to the SEC.
coexist?!?! that's rich. and the conference doesn't care about basketball very much, so what exactly is the benefit of 'flagship' status??
 

KyCatFan1

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All this and you have no idea that the basketball game you are talking about is an away game at Ole Miss... [eyeroll]

I know damn well when and where the basketball game is played and have said nothing that even says that I didn't. I am talking about people at home wanting to watch both. Sure some might even like to go to both games. If we get the TaxSlayer Bowl then all of this is moot so just freaking drop it. I didn't post the original subject matter to start arguments. In was just an opinion on the bowl selection process.
 

CatsFanGG24

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I know damn well when and where the basketball game is played and have said nothing that even says that I didn't. I am talking about people at home wanting to watch both. Sure some might even like to go to both games. If we get the TaxSlayer Bowl then all of this is moot so just freaking drop it. I didn't post the original subject matter to start arguments. In was just an opinion on the bowl selection process.

If you really believe MB should decline a bowl game to go to a lower level bowl because we have a reg season basketball on the same day, you need to reevaluate things...

Is that what you are trying to argue for? Decline Belk for Independence, Liberty or Birmingham Bowl?
 

KyCatFan1

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If you really believe MB should decline a bowl game to go to a lower level bowl because we have a reg season basketball on the same day, you need to reevaluate things...

Is that what you are trying to argue for? Decline Belk for Independence, Liberty or Birmingham Bowl?

No I was for the MCB and I was the first on here saying the TaxSlayer was potentially an option when most everyone on here kept predicting Birmingham and Independence. The Liberty might have been an option over Belk if for some reason all the other bowls chose other schools.
 
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It's a road game at Ole Miss. You're placing the same level of importance on a regular season SEC basketball game as a bowl game. That's not coexisting. Many people would consider me a basketball first fan but I can live without watching us beat Ole Miss by 20 in December.

And..DVR for basketball is your friend. It is a good bowl game people .. step up for the football team after the historic win over no class and no integrity U. That was one of the all time best wins in UK football history over our hated rival .. felt like a NCAA championship too me. I have watched replay several times.

Can't get enough. Go Big Blue! Been supporting team for nearly 40 years.
 

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The sweetness in the bowl projections is the hesitation to name the opponent for the Gator Bowl against UK.
 
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jauk11

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The bowls in this pool—the Outback Bowl, TaxSlayer Bowl, Music City Bowl, Texas Bowl, Belk Bowl and Liberty—are filled by the SEC in conjuncture with the individual bowls and schools.

All I'm saying is according to that above, the SEC, bowls, and schools all work together in selecting where the school goes. Mitch represents the school and he cares about all sports. That is why I've maintained that I believe the basketball game and the football game being on the same day might eliminate a bowl from consideration. You know Mitch will go into these talks using that to help with our bowl selection. Who's to say that isn't the reason the Belk Bowl talk has died down some and the TaxSlayer has picked up?

You football first people take it as a slight when I said I don't want to sacrifice one sport for the other. That is because I enjoy them equally and want to watch them both live and some of us don't have DVRs. I might even try to go to the bowl if I can, but I'm not missing the basketball game to do it. I'm sure there are plenty of other fans that feel the same way. That is why I said Mitch would have failed in considering this and that is also why I don't think he did and we will get a better bowl because of it.

Football and basketball have to coexist here unlike most SEC schools. That is why I think that will be one of the deciding factors in our bowl destination. We are the flagship of the conference in basketball and I think that is still worth something to the SEC.

And some of you basketball first fans completely misunderstand AND underestimate the football fans.
 
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jauk11

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And..DVR for basketball is your friend. It is a good bowl game people .. step up for the football team after the historic win over no class and no integrity U. That was one of the all time best wins in UK football history over our hated rival .. felt like a NCAA championship too me. I have watched replay several times.

Can't get enough. Go Big Blue! Been supporting team for nearly 40 years.

Watching a replay now, middle of the night to me.
 
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UKvisitor_rivals101449

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some of us don't have DVRs.

If you have an internet connection, you have a dvr.

Pointing my finger towards ukbasketballlive. Don't let the name fool you.
 
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Go to the bowl game. Get there the night before. I'm sure there will be a game watching party for the basketball game at some local establishment in Jacksonville.
 

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And some of you basketball first fans completely misunderstand AND underestimate the football fans.

And may underestimate the importance of Football fans to the athletic program. Look at the finances. The UK athletic program would be a fraction of what it currently is without Football money. Sure, UK could make it without Football, but is looking like a St. John's or one of the former big least athletic programs what fans want?

For me, even a post season bball game pales compared to a bowl game but then I'm primarily Football. I don't understand how anyone could even remotely regard regular season bball as even approaching a bowl game on the significance scale.
 

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I have no sources at all, but I almost guarantee we will not be in the Belk. Mitch will not let them put us in a bowl that is going on at the same time as our basketball team. If he does he fails as an AD.
There is NO, ZERO, ZILCH, ZIP , NADA comparison between your football team playing in a BOWL GAME and a meaningless bb game against a team we probably beat by 40 points!!!! This is beyond insane and ridiculous... Wake up people!
 

sluggercatfan

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You know it's the truth. You don't sacrifice one sport (your best one at that) for another one. I don't see any AD doing that and that's why I think Mitch will do the right thing and that may end up being a big reason we might end up at the TaxSlayer Bowl. That and buying up a ton of tickets. You don't force the fans to choose between the two.
There is NO COMPARSION between your bb team playing a meaningless bb game, and I don't care that we are KENTUCKY, and your fb team playing in a BOWL GAME ...
those fans that are concerned about it are stupid!
 

BlueVelvetFog

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It's a business. You follow the money and go forward. I like basketball, but to make the aforementioned comparison is stupid.

Football bowl game >>>>>>>>>not even close >>>>>>> meaningless road SEC basketball lame game.
 

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If Mitch did that, I would hope that there's a protest and a resignation

Did what? Play when UK BB is playing or asking for another bowl when UK BB is playing? Just saying...BB guys see it one way and FB guys see it another.

TaxSlayer makes it a mute point anyway.
 

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It's a business. You follow the money and go forward. I like basketball, but to make the aforementioned comparison is stupid.

Football bowl game >>>>>>>>>not even close >>>>>>> meaningless road SEC basketball lame game.

Financially...I think FB teams usually LOSE money going to a bowl game. I'm pretty sure that's what I read a while back.
 

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Did what? Play when UK BB is playing or asking for another bowl when UK BB is playing? Just saying...BB guys see it one way and FB guys see it another.

TaxSlayer makes it a mute point anyway.

I have to agree with the others you don't take a lesser bowl because of a road basketball game. If U.K. Was to do that then that just shows Stoops and future football coaches where football stands at UK. Heck if UofL gets the Citrus Bowl it is on the same day and time as the UofL/IU basketball game and should that happen they already have Fillin announcers for the basketball game picked out.
 
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sluggercatfan

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One brings in a boatload of money, is on national TV, and is the culmination of a successful season for the bread and butter of our athletics department; the other is a few hundred UK fans in Oxford, MS for a conference cupcake. You're right, he'd be a failure of an AD if that was our best bowl invite and he turned it down over a road conference basketball game. DVR the damn basketball game......dear Lord what is wrong with our fanbase. Hmmmmm...bowl game or watch UK play Ole Miss. You can't be serious.
Hello!!!!!!! Thank you!!!
 
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Financially...I think FB teams usually LOSE money going to a bowl game. I'm pretty sure that's what I read a while back.
I actually think you would make some money from the Gator Bowl, however you can't really put a price on what the exposure could mean to a team and how it could impacted recruiting.
 
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sluggercatfan

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Unfortunately I believe that person is along with many others. It is yet another of the many obstacles this football program has to over come..there truly is an attitude that basketball comes first, period. Its crazy
It is not that bb comes first, it is a matter of which game is the most important and in this case it is insane comparing a bowl game for football versus a basketball game that means nothing!
 
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Did what? Play when UK BB is playing or asking for another bowl when UK BB is playing? Just saying...BB guys see it one way and FB guys see it another.

TaxSlayer makes it a mute point anyway.

If he turned down a higher tier how for a lesser because of basketball. Which I don't believe there is any chance he would do.
 

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Financially...I think FB teams usually LOSE money going to a bowl game. I'm pretty sure that's what I read a while back.

I want to say the tendency is to blow the money on the players, team managers, etc. It's a reward for the long slug of the season.

The bigger bowls, with the bigger payouts, maybe there is some return, but I'm not sure. But I do know that their is money provided for players families (for travel), and the players get gifts (ipads, etc.) for those higher tier games.

So, maybe at the end of the day, there really isn't much net income from these events. But it does provide for good exposures, especially for games played closer to January 1.
 

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I want to say the tendency is to blow the money on the players, team managers, etc. It's a reward for the long slug of the season.

The bigger bowls, with the bigger payouts, maybe there is some return, but I'm not sure. But I do know that their is money provided for players families (for travel), and the players get gifts (ipads, etc.) for those higher tier games.

So, maybe at the end of the day, there really isn't much net income from these events. But it does provide for good exposures, especially for games played closer to January 1.
Its all about the TV money.
 

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There is NO, ZERO, ZILCH, ZIP , NADA comparison between your football team playing in a BOWL GAME and a meaningless bb game against a team we probably beat by 40 points!!!! This is beyond insane and ridiculous... Wake up people!
This is precisely why UK Football has languished in obscurity since Bear Bryant, and the early 1950's! I invite anyone to check the archives & why Bear left UK for TAM U. Why you are at, why not view the prevailing attitude(per UK athletics), the UK AD's, - Cliff Hagan & C M Newton - post Bernie Shively's tenure!!! This time frame existed from '69 up to MB!

MY PLEA, WHY CAN'T WE AS FANS, BE INCLUSIVE & SUPPORT BOTH PROGRAMS EQUALLY?
 
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