New ESPN INSIDER article on Dak and Mississippi State..

PineGroveBully

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I normally dont like to ask for someone to post the content of an "Insider" article but I don't have an insider account and my interest is peaked and I imagine the board would be intrigued by it also. If the moderators don't have a problem with someone posting the article so us non-insiders could read it it would be greatly appreciated if one of yall ESPN insider members woud paste the entire article to the board.

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/travis-haney/post?id=2717
 

Bigedawg

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Today’s question: How can the Mississippi State Bulldogs become this year’s breakout SEC team?


When I talked last summer with Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen, he bemoaned the lack of veteran leadership on his team. He spent about 10 or 15 seconds going through the roster in his mind, trying to think of scholarship seniors who would actually play in 2013. He came up with six, and a list that included at least one specialist.


“It’s something we are missing,” Mullen told me then, referring to the team's lack of an experienced leader.


Things have changed since then. I view Mississippi State as the SEC’s most viable sleeper in 2014. If there is an Auburn or Missouri story in the SEC in 2014, I think it's the Bulldogs.


Here's why they can make a leap this season:


Dak attack


If you haven’t noticed, there aren't many returning QBs in the SEC this year.


Dak Prescott, a name only now becoming familiar to the region (let alone to the country), could very well be the second-team SEC QB behind the Auburn Tigers' Nick Marshall. (Bo Wallace could receive votes, as well, as the signal-caller for the Ole Miss Rebels.)


Prescott went for five total TDs in the Bulldogs' bowl win against Rice as a redshirt junior, demonstrating that he could be due for a big year in 2014.


With apologies to the other dual-threat QBs listed above, they are not built like running backs, like the 6-foot-2, 235-pound Prescott is. Which reminds me ...


The Bulldogs look the part


An SEC assistant told me late last season that Mississippi State passed the eye test as much as anyone in the league, including Alabama.


“They have some monsters,” he said. “I thought they were the strongest [defensive] front we saw all year.”


The Bulldogs were so physically stacked on both lines that he wondered why they weren’t winning more games.


Going back to Mullen’s point from a year ago, the team could start as many as four seniors on the offensive line and three seniors -- plus junior All-America candidate Benardrick McKinney at MLB -- in the front seven on defense.


The schedule ... is what it is


You’re never going to have an ideal schedule in the SEC West, but it’s no help to the Bulldogs that they have to go to LSU (Sept. 20) and Alabama (Nov. 15). On the bright side, at least those games are split in different parts of the season; that worked in Auburn's favor last season, even though the Tigers ended up losing to LSU.


This year, it's beneficial for the Bulldogs to catch LSU and its young offense early in the season rather than in October or November.


There are also absolutely no nonconference threats on the schedule in 2014. Some schools in other conferences might find that upsetting, but it’s something that stands to benefit a dark-horse playoff contender. If MSU ends up winning two of three against Bama, Auburn and LSU, the committee will certainly take notice.
 

BiscuitEater

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Good points made ...

Prescott went for five total TDs in the Bulldogs' bowl win against Rice as a redshirt junior, demonstrating that he could be due for a big year in 2014.
With apologies to the other dual-threat QBs listed above, they are not built like running backs, like the 6-foot-2, 235-pound Prescott is.

Only miss was the RS JR statement.
 

60sdog

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Same old problem...

Everyone seems to be going overboard about this upcoming season. Every one is going ga-ga over Dak and the D, but almost no one is mentioning the offensive line, which has always been the thing that has kept MSU from moving into the upper half of the SEC. I see it as no different this season. I mean, we lost the one good OL we had last year, and for most of the season, we could get no push at all when we ran up the middle, other than the OT play by Dak in the Egg Bowl.

I'm afraid that we are looking another typical MSU offensive line, and if that's so, then our upside is probably limited to 7-5, even with Dak and the great D we'll have.
 

Bigedawg

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It's all good. Just touched down in Moscow and Vlad is gonna protect me from ESPN legal.
 

KurtRambis4

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I disagree

on the OLine having been the main factor that has kept us back, throughout the years. I would say, overall, it has been the lack of an above average QB. Now I'm not saying this has always been the case, but more often than not. That's my opinion, at least.
 

60sdog

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Our OL

Compare/contrast the MSU linemen that have gone onto the NFL vs MSU QB's.

Yes, we've had a standout every few years who has been a high draft pick, just no where enough of them to be able to compete with SEC DL's. Consider this: even with Gabe the past few years, Tyler had to run for his life and that is why he stayed hurt all of the time. And our running game has had no push in the middle, the only we have generated any running attack at all (consistently) by attacking the ends with the QB or a receiver. My observation has been that OL quality and depth is what generally separates the top of the conference from the bottom.
 
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Under Jackie our OL was a strength but our skill position players were mediocre. It's the opposite with Mullen. We've had some nice skill players under him but our OL has been mediocre (compared to our conference brethren).

I too am not drinking the koolaid this year. Our OL wasn't great last year and we lost our best one. Our ceiling is 8-4.
 

121Josey

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By no means was the OL good/great under Tha Kang. TSUN still got the pick of the litter. But we wanted to run the ball and built the line for that purpose.

I won't say at the moment that the skill position players (except QB) are better than what Jackie had.

We also lost our worst OL. We could make a complete OL out of people that played last year. This year's team is all about experience.
 

johnson86-1

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Under Jackie our OL was a strength but our skill position players were mediocre. It's the opposite with Mullen. We've had some nice skill players under him but our OL has been mediocre (compared to our conference brethren).

Actually we usually had decent WRs with Jackie. Or at least as good or better than Mullen although I think Mullen will change that over the next few years. Jackie just never had a good qb. Not sure how much of it was recruiting and how much of it was inability to develop them. Taite and Madkin seemed like pretty decent raw material that didn't get better over time. I've been told Taite was a headcase, but I don't think that was the case with madkin. He was very good for a freshman, but didn't see the jump you would have expected.
 

Singer

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Ye of little faith. Dak is a winner. Always has been always will be, those without faith reap no reward. Move on. He gives his teammates and fans all the respect in the world. Family not fans? Who needs family like you, Id be surprised if you ever won at anything. Where's the love and encouragement. Much less faith. Maybe your the typical reason for the season. Wow !!!! GO DAWGS!!!! I believe!!!
Everyone seems to be going overboard about this upcoming season. Every one is going ga-ga over Dak and the D, but almost no one is mentioning the offensive line, which has always been the thing that has kept MSU from moving into the upper half of the SEC. I see it as no different this season. I mean, we lost the one good OL we had last year, and for most of the season, we could get no push at all when we ran up the middle, other than the OT play by Dak in the Egg Bowl.

I'm afraid that we are looking another typical MSU offensive line, and if that's so, then our upside is probably limited to 7-5, even with Dak and the great D we'll have.
 

ColMuldrow

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If this is what being an "Insider" gets you....

I'm not signing up any time soon. Nothing terribly novel about that article.
 

engie

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Yes, we've had a standout every few years who has been a high draft pick, just no where enough of them to be able to compete with SEC DL's. Consider this: even with Gabe the past few years, Tyler had to run for his life and that is why he stayed hurt all of the time. And our running game has had no push in the middle, the only we have generated any running attack at all (consistently) by attacking the ends with the QB or a receiver. My observation has been that OL quality and depth is what generally separates the top of the conference from the bottom.

How do you explain Dak being the hardest QB to sack in the SEC -- by a mile -- behind that same OL? Tyler held the ball too long, just like Relf before him. Our running game had plenty of push in the middle -- when we started a RB capable of running it up the middle. I'd venture to guess Perkins had one of the highest TFL allowed among RBs in the country the past two years. Some of that is OL probably -- but a huge part of it was his affinity to get upended and fall backwards. That almost never happens with J-Rob. I'm working on something statistically that will raise some interesting questions on this...
 

thf24

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Tyler had to run for his life because he couldn't make quick decisions consistently and held onto the ball too long. Even then, our number of sacks allowed was well below the league average. And it only looks like we don't get push in the running game because you're not trying to road grate the opposing front in a certain direction in a spread option offense since the ball could be going several different directions. Our line isn't nearly as weak of a link as some of you want to believe. Clausell and Day will be in NFL training camps as FA's or better this time next year, Clayborn and Malone will be drafted in three years, and Beckwith is solid with plenty of experience. We've got three or four backups who are a lot better than they're being given credit for as well. I agree that our season hinges on o-line play (in addition to the kicking game), but there's plenty of talent there and there's no reason to believe they won't step up to the challenge.