At the moment there does not appear to be a court battle that the Obama administration will be involved with, as this persons suit would have to first be filed at the local level. Feel free to point me to one from another state though.
New heights of insanity.
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Are these statistics based on a transgender person being placed in a locker room with a biology similar cisgender group or the transgender's self identify cisgender group? cause i understand a boys locker room could be a hellish place for any one transgender or not, teen boys give each other hell, a transgender ( with male biology) might be an ez target, and a transgender with female biology might be popular in the locker room even more (teens boys have dirty minds), but is now putting transgender (male biology and female biology) in the locker room with cisgender females the right thing, while ignoring the females concerns, just to avoid the boys.. its a standoff and both side have real issues...... we need a solution that speak to all issues before we start penalizing the school. and the student who will ultimately lose out if the gov pull funding. gotta get people talking, not shying away from the subject because of fear of not being PC, that's the only way to really solve the problem.... "so i think, but what do i know"?..... thanks for helping me get some clarity on this issue....... its truly over my head...
Truthfully I'm not sure. I think studies like that are based on transgender people as a whole and I'm not aware if there is even a way to study the relative safety of a same-gender v same-sex situation as far as shared public/private spaces go. However the mental health struggles that transgendered people face is pretty alarming (depression, suicide, etc). I'm okay with erring on the side of caution with a group that faces those struggles. I understand can be a difficult to come to either conclusion, and I'm understanding of those who take the other side of this issue. I've spent a lot of time reading about it and contemplating it internally, and with a decision like that I do think we can make sure we do enough to support every kid adjust to a new situation like that, but I'm ultimately gonna err on the side that I do and say that a transgendered person does have the right to use the bathroom and lockerroom that matches their gender.
A person with a ****** is a woman.
If you have a penis, you are a male.
We have all know this forever. It is just now that a political agenda "questions" this that we have to deal with this ridiculous crap.
Oh - the AMA statement about "changing gender" what's the position by OBG's: dick and balls, it's a boy.
If you have a penis, you are a male.
We have all know this forever. It is just now that a political agenda "questions" this that we have to deal with this ridiculous crap.
Oh - the AMA statement about "changing gender" what's the position by OBG's: dick and balls, it's a boy.
Well Websters dictionary isn't wrong in saying that its the state of being female, even though that's kind of vague. I think this link from the American Psychological Association is a more formal definition of terms of the various items.
https://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/sexuality-definitions.pdf
What is definitely overriding in the medical community is that gender isn't reliant upon internal or external sexual organs. And while some transgendered people will make the decision to cosmetically mimic their external sexual organs to their gender-identity, their gender-acceptance plays a much more beneficial role in their mental health than whats between their legs.
Well that's not totally true. There are some cultures that have always recognized genders outside of a strict male/penis femal/****** desingation. In western culture, at least since the last half of the 20th century there has been scientific study and recognition of the current, mainstream scientific definition of gender.
"What is definitely overriding in the medical community..."
Some sects - you're overplaying your hand.
I'll tell you what - I'm not gonna respond more. Going to spend time with my junior daughters who attend Fremd, the epicenter of this fiasco.
I'll end with this, see you in court. This local community will weather the storm - D211 will be fine.
Some sects - you're overplaying your hand.
I'll tell you what - I'm not gonna respond more. Going to spend time with my junior daughters who attend Fremd, the epicenter of this fiasco.
I'll end with this, see you in court. This local community will weather the storm - D211 will be fine.
Well I can't argue with going to spend time with family. I suppose I have been neglecting my wife while taking part in this conversation 
The arguments crusader and others are making sound eerily similar to the arguments made by those in favor of school segregation in the 50s (e.g. "It's a local issue! Federal govt shouldn't be involved."; "The majority of the local district agrees with me so we are right."; "Neither my kids nor I feel comfortable with it so it shouldn't be allowed.").
This is a complex issue. And one that is quickly gaining mainstream attention in both the media and scientific communities. I do understand and sympathize with what crusader is saying though. But can't say I agree with him.
This is a complex issue. And one that is quickly gaining mainstream attention in both the media and scientific communities. I do understand and sympathize with what crusader is saying though. But can't say I agree with him.
Substitute PE with art - mandatory class during which - from frosh though senior year - students must strip and pose naked in front of classmates, gender be damned.
If you think I'll ok this environment for my girls ... I'll fight it to then end.
If you think I'll ok this environment for my girls ... I'll fight it to then end.
That's such a ridiculous example. No one is being forced to get naked or be stared at naked or pose naked. And there appear to be private accommodations for anyone that opts to use them, for any reason.
I thought you were done anyways.
I thought you were done anyways.
I had to reply to another idiot beside you.
Yes / those accommodations are private for the majority's comfort.
You wish that one person's wish trumps that so the this special person feels normal.
Yes / those accommodations are private for the majority's comfort.
You wish that one person's wish trumps that so the this special person feels normal.
Yeah, I do believe in protection of the minority at the will of the majority. It's a flaw in a strict democracy which is why a three branch system with judiciary and executive branches exist.
tangentially related to the subject matter of the board (HS athletics and those who participate). Granted not a football topic though.
I really don't have much more to say directly on the topic. Anything left would just be in response to picking apart crusaders posts, but I started losing energy for that a few posts ago, so I'm fine being done.
Next thing you know, there will be a movement to remove the gender field from birth certificates. Why label a child with whatever stigma you want to assign to being male or female before s/he has a chance to determine his/her own gender?
Epic
I don't usually agree with you but your statement has a lot of merit. Listen times have changed since the 50 & 60,s. Spreading ones legs to determine sex is different then spreading ones legs to determine gender. I feel for both sides, I am glad I never had to deal with
such issues with my kids. That said I firmly believe these people are born this way and have no choice on how they feel. I also understand the complexities that crusader90 is dealing with. I am not sure their is a easy answer certainly not one that will get figured out on a HS football site. Please don't make these people feel worse than they already do, it's not something they are proud of which is why I am sure they have such a high suicide rate.