New RPI’s just update in the last hour get to work bracket
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It's going be possible for Robbinsville to win the SMC and finish below 2 other smc schools in the rpi rankings..And that's with wins over 2 3A schools. Simmons also shows Robbinsville with the toughest 1A schedule in the state...there's something dead up the creek.
Andrews is gonna throw the kitchen sink at Murphy. Think they could win that game if they can somehow contain the qb.
Simmons like MaxPreps does more then just strength of schedule in their formulas they do something like RPI then probably add things like playing a higher classification etc no one but them knows what goes into their algorithm. RPI is just straight math ether the teams you ,the teams you play and the teams they play have a good average winning percentage or they don't, there hinden ingredients that goes into the formula. There are other states that like NC started using the RPI this year but also gives extra credit for playing a higher classification team and that would have been good I think if NC had done that as well.
But if Robbinsville wins SMC and is still behind other SMC teams in the RPI they still will be seated higher by winning the conference.
I don't think Andrews has anything left to throw. With those 2 backs injured ,their in trouble.
Makes little sense then. Who knows with this stuff. Robbinsville wins the league they still get no 1 seed out of the SMC though for being the league champion
They aren’t banged up enough to be on the sidelines… I assume they will both be back to their regular roles this week.
#4-#10 is a tight race. Could be a lot of shuffling there this week. It opens up at #3, and opens up a little more at #2...
Robbinsville could move all the way to 3 seed with 2 wins. Go from .5714 win percentage to .6666 win percentage. So increase of .0952. Which would put rpi higher than Mitchell. At 0.6328.
The RPI has no human element involved....so therefore no "eye" test. Also, does not take into consideration margin of victory and classification of teams you play. I think these additions would make the RPI slightly more accurate.
A teams winning % only counts for 30% of the RPI. Opponents winning % counts for 40%, and Opponents Opponents winning % counts as 30%. The only way the top 3 get shook up any is if one of them loses this week, and even then, it still might not change.
Eastern Randolph and mt airy are too high imo to be passed. Mitchell could be passed by robbinsville if robbinsville wins there last 2 games bc it would increase there rip higher than theirs...and bc Mitchell plays 1 and 8 Avery which will pull there owp down. It will be close between them but they could pass Mitchell.
Mitchell fans would have heart failure if they had to come to the Big Oaks again..
Mitchell's RPI should drop to roughly .595 with a win over Avery. If Robbinsville wins out, then it should make their RPI roughly .600 so entirely plausible if my maths are correct.
It would put the 2 on completely different ends of the bracket. The only way Mitchell and Robbinsville would meet would be in the western final.
I agree the playing up should be extra credit for a lower classification team some states who also use RPI do that while giving the higher classification teams 2 games exemptions to play a lower classification school without handicapping their RPI by playing down if not you wouldn't have any bigger schools willing to play down.
But I don't think there should be a reward in high school for margin of victory to me that encourages bad sportsmanship plus it would negate the purpose of using a strength of schedule system to play quality non-conference teams instead some schools would just schedule cupcakes and run up the score.
And the nchsaa is biased towards the silver spoons
Well looking at Mitchell and Robbinsville as far as R taking them over.
If you look at their RPI now Mitchell's didn't plummet playing Rosman because their non-conference teams went 3-1 keeping their opw from falling much. Robbinsville was'nt helped as much because their non-conference went 2-2.
Guessong on game outcomes the numbers I used assumed that Mitchell wins their last game and Robville wins their last two.
Looking at their schedules took a guess on the outcomes of their opponents last games some pretty easy some toss-ups in my mind I gave home field advantage, one of those I added up both ways and went with the outcome that helped Robbinsville's opw.
As far as the last column oopw used percentages lost or gained from their last game.
While I did a check the math on opw with Mitchell from last opw to now to see if I was doing the math right but try not to make to much fun of me if I end up being way off lol.
Mitchell RPI now..(.60700) my guess for last RPI range (.58300) to (.600084)
Robbinsville RPI now ( .53764)
guess form last RPI range (.54343) to (.57972)
If you look at their RPI now Mitchell's didn't plummet playing Rosman because their non-conference teams went 3-1 keeping their opw from falling much. Robbinsville was'nt helped as much because their non-conference went 2-2.
Guessong on game outcomes the numbers I used assumed that Mitchell wins their last game and Robville wins their last two.
Looking at their schedules took a guess on the outcomes of their opponents last games some pretty easy some toss-ups in my mind I gave home field advantage, one of those I added up both ways and went with the outcome that helped Robbinsville's opw.
As far as the last column oopw used percentages lost or gained from their last game.
While I did a check the math on opw with Mitchell from last opw to now to see if I was doing the math right but try not to make to much fun of me if I end up being way off lol.
Mitchell RPI now..(.60700) my guess for last RPI range (.58300) to (.600084)
Robbinsville RPI now ( .53764)
guess form last RPI range (.54343) to (.57972)
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| Mountain Island Charter | 8-1-0 | 0.88889 | 0.38911 | 0.48964 | 0.56920 |
And then there's the likes of MICS. Proof that when you play weak teams, you can still be ranked high.
True and if they were 7-2 instead of 8-1 they'd be #12 it's very thin margins. But at the same time I'm sure you've got people not happy that 5-3 Startmont is #4 but it's because their opw is .66446. In the 2A, 8-1 Shelby is #1 over 4 undefeated teams because their opw is .60053 the big complaint there is that 8-0 Salisbury is #11 but their opw is 0.36161. Even though opw counts 10% more it's a combination of the three plus what the other teams are doing.
The NCAA RPI they use is 25-50-25 instead of 30-40-30 that would strengthen the opw, though you'd really have the ones who complaining that their wp should have them higher in the rankings.
I do like where other states have gone to using RPI ratings also added an kinda extra credit to lower classification schools who play higher classification schools in non-conference games.
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Makes total sense to me as well and no clue why a 25-50-25 isn't used or a little more weight on opponents like 20 - 50 - 30. Can easily experiment with the numbers after tomorrow night to see how it would shake up the standings.