Newman is

muddawgs

Freshman
Aug 22, 2012
1,158
93
48
He's a one and done? Couldn't even come close to hitting a 17ing free throw. wow that was horrible.
 

HD6

Sophomore
Apr 8, 2003
10,019
108
63
I'll bet you any amount of money he's gone at the end of the year. Name your stakes.
 

Utah_Chaney

Redshirt
Nov 12, 2015
180
0
0
I agree, Newman will be amazing. It's comical to me the all the conclusions that are jumped to.

He was literally JUST in a cast, is a true freshman and probably has put an extreme amount of pressure on himself! It's EARLY in his brief college career. He will be amazing.
 

BiscuitEater

Redshirt
Aug 29, 2009
4,178
0
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Apples to oranges ..

Nostradubmass? Michael Jordan was not a great outside threat coming out of college.

A. Michael Jordan spent THREE years in college BEFORE going to the NBA

B. Michael Jordan SHOT it plenty well in college. He shot 44.7% from behind the arc in college. He was also the Naismith and Wooden College Player of the Year and averaged 13.5/20.0/19.6 in his 3 years in college.

C. Michael Jordan played SG; Newman wants to be a PG

D. Michael Jordan was picked 3rd, right BEHIND Sam Bowie; NBA doesn't always get it right
 

thf24

Redshirt
Jan 28, 2011
1,334
3
38
So we're writing our best ever basketball recruit off as "not a great outside threat" based on his first college game after being extremely limited in practice for almost a month? Unbelievable.
 

DawgatAuburn

All-Conference
Apr 25, 2006
11,192
2,329
113
Stats don't tell the whole story, do they? First of all, Jordan only had the three point option one year. Second, it was ridiculously short. Third, when Jordan got to the NBA, he couldn't his *** with both hands from three because he wasn't a great shooter.

 

msufandan

Redshirt
Aug 9, 2013
48
0
0
He's probably still recovering from his injury and isn't completely healthy. This is nothing to get too worried about. We'll see how he performs as the year goes on.
 

fishwater99

Freshman
Jun 4, 2007
14,073
54
48
I've been watching him for the past 4 years here in Jackson...

So we're writing our best ever basketball recruit off as "not a great outside threat" based on his first college game after being extremely limited in practice for almost a month? Unbelievable.

There is a reason he is transitioning to point guard for the next level. He is not a pure outside shooter, if he was he would play SG.
Sure he can go pro after this year, but he would benefit from staying another year in college to work on his PG game.
Don't tell me any of you wouldn't like for Malik to stay for 2 years at MSU.
 

muddawgs

Freshman
Aug 22, 2012
1,158
93
48
Newman will be awesome this season. You people are nuts.

nobody said he wouldn't be awesome. 1-6 in Free Throws and the last two weren't even close. I would just think one and done type player would have a little more touch instead of having two free throws sling shot off the iron. 17ing look like Shaq shooting free throws. I will tell you what's nuts though is 17ing Sword shooting 8 3 pointers. Not going to win many games with him doing that.
 

HD6

Sophomore
Apr 8, 2003
10,019
108
63
He shot 40 percent from 3 as a senior. Only 22 guys in the NBA shot better than that a year ago. Please, continue to tell us about his 3 point shooting that you've scouted so thoroughly.

I'd like to have a billion dollars too, but it's just as big a pipe dream.
 

HD6

Sophomore
Apr 8, 2003
10,019
108
63
D'Angelo Russell only shot 75 percent off the line a year ago. For comparison, Gavin Ware shot 74 percent.

It's one game, coming off an injury and a week missing practice. It sucks to lose this game, but the overreactions are comical.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
61,337
33,064
113
I mostly agree with you, but I don't think you can compare 3-point percentages in high school with the NBA. NBA line is further out, and of course you're facing MUCH better defenses.

Like all highly rated recruits, I'm taking a wait and see approach with Malik. Maybe he's as good as the hype and maybe he's not. But one thing he is, is determined to play in the NBA next season. If he's even marginally projected in the draft, I think he's gone.
 

philduckworth

Redshirt
Feb 20, 2015
2,228
0
0
He shot 40 percent from 3 as a senior. Only 22 guys in the NBA shot better than that a year ago. Please, continue to tell us about his 3 point shooting that you've scouted so thoroughly.

I'd like to have a billion dollars too, but it's just as big a pipe dream.

He'll go pro, but his idol Steph Curry played 3 years of college ball. Both guys are 6'3. Malik would really benefit from 2 years of running the point in college.
 

HD6

Sophomore
Apr 8, 2003
10,019
108
63
So then what are you basing your scouting report on? Did you see him take a lot of NBA range 3's in all those games you watched?
 

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
40,739
22,990
113
You really think you can compare an NBA defender vs a high school defender and apply those stats across the board?
 

HD6

Sophomore
Apr 8, 2003
10,019
108
63
I don't know, how do you suppose the scouts from the NBA who drafted high school players for years did it? Did they arrange scrimmages with pros to find out about a prospect?
 

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
40,739
22,990
113
I wouldn't think they would look to their JPS stats. They probably have a better judge than we do. I don't think you can equate the two.

Also, you are fat.
 

HD6

Sophomore
Apr 8, 2003
10,019
108
63
I don't think scouts are just drafting off a stat sheet. But beyond looking at what players do against the competition that they face, how else do you determine who is worth drafting?

 
Nov 16, 2005
29,733
25,397
113
They draft most one and done players on potential. There are very few that are instant contributors and even fewer that are immediate stars.
 

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
40,739
22,990
113
I just don't think they say hey - Malik Newman's 3 point shooting stats automatically mean he will be a 3 point threat in the NBA. It's a whole different dynamic with the speed and athleticism.

That's like saying Ashton Shumpert is a great RB b/c he rushed 153 times for 1,796 yards, an average of 11.7 yards-per-carry, and 25 touchdowns his senior year.
 

DawgatAuburn

All-Conference
Apr 25, 2006
11,192
2,329
113
Sort of. They brought them in for workouts, either by themselves or with other members of the team. Garnett's workout is legendary. Kobe's too. In those days drafting it was more off potential and athletic ability than what they did in HS. But it got too many people fired, so now we have one and dones where they have better competition to gauge them against.
 

HD6

Sophomore
Apr 8, 2003
10,019
108
63
So then, what do you base the idea that he is not a good outside shooter on? Because that's what we're talking about here, right?
 

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
40,739
22,990
113
That is what we are talking about here and I'm saying it's too early to judge. It's impossible to equate the two.
 

fishwater99

Freshman
Jun 4, 2007
14,073
54
48
nobody said he wouldn't be awesome. 1-6 in Free Throws and the last two weren't even close. I would just think one and done type player would have a little more touch instead of having two free throws sling shot off the iron. 17ing look like Shaq shooting free throws. I will tell you what's nuts though is 17ing Sword shooting 8 3 pointers. Not going to win many games with him doing that.


He actually shot okay from the FT line in HS. 84% over 4 years..
 
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