Next year we are fine, hope we don’t have to burn his freshman year after the semester.
Next Year’s Lineup '26
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He just beat a 6th year Senior, 8th Ranked, ACC Champ, 3x qualifier and All-American.
I think Swiderski can fix his issues if he keeps his head right, but if that doesn't happen, it seems our two best options are Tagen and Teague.
Tagen has always been my preference at 149, but his health obviously puts that into question. I think 149 is not ideal for Teague because it's a really tough cut. In the universe where we go with Teague, do you save him until Big 12s again so he doesn't have to cut weight for months and just does it for two tournaments?
Tagen has always been my preference at 149, but his health obviously puts that into question. I think 149 is not ideal for Teague because it's a really tough cut. In the universe where we go with Teague, do you save him until Big 12s again so he doesn't have to cut weight for months and just does it for two tournaments?
Swiderski's issue is conditioning. Always has been. It's really, really bad.
For discussion, order of concern right now. How do you see differently?
1. 149 - should be wide open. Try Jamison and/or Travis?
2. 133 - roll with Ramirez? Have this weight 2nd bc Ramirez looks like a suitable replacement.
3. 174 - need offense, brutal weekend
4. 184 - need offense, brutal weekend
5. 197 - feel better about the raw material right now than 74 & 84 due to offensive proclivity.
1. 149 - should be wide open. Try Jamison and/or Travis?
2. 133 - roll with Ramirez? Have this weight 2nd bc Ramirez looks like a suitable replacement.
3. 174 - need offense, brutal weekend
4. 184 - need offense, brutal weekend
5. 197 - feel better about the raw material right now than 74 & 84 due to offensive proclivity.
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I think Merrill needs to go to the Konner Doucet school of getting out of his own head and trusting his offense. Same with Ryder. I think both those guys will end up fine come March.
I think Figs might be done. Rolling Ramirez out there is pretty damning imo.
Swiderski, what do you even say? Tagen is going to push him when back healthy (I hope), and come March it’s either going to be Jamison with a chip on his shoulder or Swid with his head out of his a$$.
I think Figs might be done. Rolling Ramirez out there is pretty damning imo.
Swiderski, what do you even say? Tagen is going to push him when back healthy (I hope), and come March it’s either going to be Jamison with a chip on his shoulder or Swid with his head out of his a$$.
Swid and Figs both gas. Different approaches though. Swid at least seems to know he’ll gas and so he conserves energy.
Sprat should keep the foot on the gas. When he goes cagey he seems to lose the close ones more often than not. I don’t have any hard data to back that up though.
Sprat should keep the foot on the gas. When he goes cagey he seems to lose the close ones more often than not. I don’t have any hard data to back that up though.
Too be fair, 174 got a brutal lineup for the weekend.
For sure. Vega, Lockett, Spratley, and others had brutal weekends as well.
Not writing Facundo off. The point is, relative to the rest of the team, where does everyone stand coming out of this weekend vs. where OSU needs them to be to maximize their finish in March.
Fair, I think he’s a good “plug” but if it doesn’t click we should recruit over him.
FWIW, the HC specifically called out 184, 174, and 149, and doesn’t seem super concerned.
All 3 of those guys are some of the hardest working guys in the room and doing all the right things.
184 and 174 give up size most matches and will have to adjust their philosophy to a degree.
149 is fighting rust, confidence and the mental side. Travis and probably Jamison are on their way so he will need to figure it out but there are some good options here.
The news didn’t originate from this board, which I what my concerns are.
It definitely did but you deleted it
. DT will still let you apply the tanning lotion its ok 
With Forrest in the Lineup, Final Flo Rankings for each current OSU Starter:
125: #6
133: #1 (Figueroa was #1 as well)
141: #7
149: #2
157: #5
165: #3
174: #2
184: #5
197: #12
285: #89
125: #6
133: #1 (Figueroa was #1 as well)
141: #7
149: #2
157: #5
165: #3
174: #2
184: #5
197: #12
285: #89
Gotta be honest, I don’t think it makes any sense to have Jax on competing for 2nd semester and burning a year of eligibility like that. If it’s a gray shirt or redshirt semester, okay sure. Just seems shortsighted to me. But there’s also a reason I’m not on staff in Stillwater
100% in agreement in all areas. Sounds like it’s Jax’ call at the end of the day.
DT won't be struggling to find another hammer 4 years from now
Enrolling and taking a RS is wasting a year that's ridiculous and funny at the same time. They should definitely do that
125 - Spratley is Spratley....Couple head scratchers but he's a Finalist or Bust kind of guy.
133 - Figs disappointing so far. Ramirez? Does Forrest come in and assume the starting job during the second Semester? Sakomoto?
141 - Vega is a DAWG
149 - Swiderski has been MIA
157 - Robideau is a DAWG
165 - Lockett is a DAWG
174 - Facundo has been good. 174 is a BEAST weight.
184 - Ryder has been good. 184 is a tough weight as well.
197 - Merrill is good but still young so I think he'll be a little inconsistent until he gets some matchups under his belt.
HWT - Doucet has been fine, no issues currently. I think he should've beat Ferrari but overall, he's far better than two years ago.
Overall, think we're pretty locked into 8 weights out of 10 (133 and 149 imo).
A lot of season, but so far, no reason to believe we can't place top 3-4. We beat the **** out of Nebraska and should've won against Iowa...
Penn State and Ohio State look like TOUGH top 2...Iowa State being a wild card.
133 - Figs disappointing so far. Ramirez? Does Forrest come in and assume the starting job during the second Semester? Sakomoto?
141 - Vega is a DAWG
149 - Swiderski has been MIA
157 - Robideau is a DAWG
165 - Lockett is a DAWG
174 - Facundo has been good. 174 is a BEAST weight.
184 - Ryder has been good. 184 is a tough weight as well.
197 - Merrill is good but still young so I think he'll be a little inconsistent until he gets some matchups under his belt.
HWT - Doucet has been fine, no issues currently. I think he should've beat Ferrari but overall, he's far better than two years ago.
Overall, think we're pretty locked into 8 weights out of 10 (133 and 149 imo).
A lot of season, but so far, no reason to believe we can't place top 3-4. We beat the **** out of Nebraska and should've won against Iowa...
Penn State and Ohio State look like TOUGH top 2...Iowa State being a wild card.
I never said I was a smart manEnrolling and taking a RS is wasting a year that's ridiculous and funny at the same time. They should definitely do that
Going into Jan I think we will have top 10 wrestlers in all weight but 1-2 (Swid and Facundo), And they can get into top 10 too. Will be really fun to cheer for this team from Jan with almost 10 top 10 wrestlers.
I do not have Spratley as a "should be NCAA finalist." "Could be" for me. Like you said he's super inconsistent and he's not a smart wrestler IMO. His loss to Peterson of Iowa was one of the dumbest I've ever seen and cost us the match. His tournament will be about matchups. There are a few guys he can't beat. I think Top-6 is more realistic.
Yes you do on Spratley. You've seen it happen six times the past two years.
So true. He failed his test of "is he an elite wrestler?" But he still could be good. Top 5-8ish.
He was a finalist last year and he already looks like a better wrestler this year, despite the slip up against Iowa. His fitness and conditioning are at a peak.
Not having Gilman and RBY will hurt him but Troy is a junkyard dog and will be right there in March
Yes he CAN get to the finals but it is going to be a very tough road. It will come down to draw. He's shown he can't beat Robinson or Strickenberger. Lilledahl is a beast. So is Bouzakis. And now Peterson is a problem. I really hope I'm wrong.
I would be surprised if Bouzakis can be an effective 125 all year, that's a crazy pull I would think. Pretty sure McCrone wrestled the morning duals and Bouzakis wrestled in the afternoon this past weekend. Be interesting to see how he is by the end of the year.
Well to be honest I was only able to keep one eye open Saturday morning after our get together at mcnellies Friday
They gave McCrone Wyoming and the Nebraska back up. Bousakis got Volk and Dean so it looks like we know how Tom Ryan is leaning. He also started the cut long ago and did it right and shrunk his body. My guess is they have a certain # of weigh ins in mind for him.
Potentially Jax is an all time great, so yes it won't be hard to replace him. Wrestle half a year ( practice half a year) doesn't make sense to me but it appears it will happen. Time will tell if this was a good decision. Robideau and Lockett decision seems to have been decided. I hope this works out but if we don't win a championship in the next 4 years and Jax, Landon and Dee are done wrestling for the Cowboys that will be sad. You don't replace these 3. I think each will be all time greats.