Next Year’s Lineup
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Iron turd... still talking about this fascination with weird finger in the butt stuff. Man iron turd. you got to give up that weird fetish of yours. You come across even loonier than you actually are. If that's somehow possible. Weird characters like you ought to just keep their mouth shut about these kind of subjects and let it die out, instead of doubling down on your weirdness. But you be you, no pun intended.
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Not a good sign when this thread is bumped up while the "greatest rivalry" is still being wrestled. Lol. So...anyone want to take a stab at your lineup next season? 
Wtf i was waiting for sabulas response to stink finger
I’d get too depressedNot a good sign when this thread is bumped up while the "greatest rivalry" is still being wrestled. Lol. So...anyone want to take a stab at your lineup next season?
Oh it's there. The turd just too embarassed to try and support his continuing fascination and attention to all that depraved finger/butt weirdness he's obsessed with.
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I don't see the portal being the difference maker this off season like it was in prior off seasons.- well prior to this last season.
1. Too many needs
2. Not a lot of reason to come to Iowa City right now other than money. Of the elite programs - Iowa's shine is worn off. Not getting results with the current batch.
3. Speaking of money. Hope Bob is very selective and generous. If its a legit national title contender by all means but I wouldn't cut a large check for blood rounds type guys to bail Tom out of his recent recruiting failures. Brands isn't taking them to another development level. They are what they are coming in. See #1 above and repeat.
1. Too many needs
2. Not a lot of reason to come to Iowa City right now other than money. Of the elite programs - Iowa's shine is worn off. Not getting results with the current batch.
3. Speaking of money. Hope Bob is very selective and generous. If its a legit national title contender by all means but I wouldn't cut a large check for blood rounds type guys to bail Tom out of his recent recruiting failures. Brands isn't taking them to another development level. They are what they are coming in. See #1 above and repeat.
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The needs aren’t really that many, but there obviously will be two huge holes to fill in Caliendo and Ayala. A lot will come down to how DeLuca and Ludington step up next year.
125: DeLuca needs to prove he was a top ten recruit.
133: Transfer portal unless Bailey can get back down here without issue.
141: Bailey or transfer
149: Block
157: Williams
165: transfer portal
174: Arnold
184: Ferrari
197: Ludington
285: Kueter/Mocco
They truly don’t need many transfers, but they do NEED the right two guys along the lines of a Buchanan type and THAT is a very tall task to expect…
On paper Angelo is the only sure fire AA coming back next year. That's not good.
This is not a top ten roster. There’s not even a top 5 guy on that roster in their weight, except Angelo.
You have no idea what top 10 is then, do you? Last year, 8th scored 46.5, 9th 45.5 and 10th 44.5. Even 6th and 7th barely scored 50.
As far as top 5 at each weight goes, who doesn’t have top 5 potential? Mind you, DeLuca, Arnold and Ludington will all be at new and optimal weights for them.
Now, I am definitely not saying they will be contending for the title. Even if they land two top transfers, at 133/141 and 165, PSU is going to be so damn good they will be about as untouchable as it gets.
I am simply saying that they could easily still be a top 5 team. Now, if top 5 isn’t enough for you guys, that is a separate argument. But, acting like they will fall out of the top 10 is laughable at best…
That lineup blows. Psu and Okie st backups probably give that lineup fits. That lineup is nothing but question marks, what ifs and maybes in another year.
We are close to falling out of the top 10 right now. Literally no one has top 5 potential on this roster, except Angelo. I guess you can squint and say Keuter but good luck with that one!
Other than Ferrari, there isnt a guy on that list that i would feel comfortable putting money on finishing in the top five next year at this point
To be fair, there aren’t that many guys in all of DI wrestling that I would put money on to place top 5 next year without knowing their health and weight. However, that wasn’t my point.
I would say DeLuca, Bailey(he had already done it in his career), Block, Williams, Arnold and Kueter ALL have that type of potential. Ludington needs more seasoning before I know what to expect from him, but I do think next year’s lineup is FAR from the garbage many on here want to portray.
Now, I am definitely not saying this lineup will be a contender. Unless they land a couple absolute studs in the portal, Ferrari is most likely their only finalist. But, I could still see 6 or 7 AA’s out of that lineup, without any of them being a big surprise…
I could also definitely see Angelo being the lone All American on the roster next year at this point.
The difference between 5th and 10th was what, 8 or 9 points last year? Sure they could be a top 5 team. Not a stretch to see them as 10th either. That is not a top tier lineup. The problem is how big of a points logjam it gets off the podium. Every year the points from 5th thru 15th are relatively close compared to the top 3 or 4 teams. I don't disagree that top 5 isnt a solid result for alot of teams. If everyone is content with being grouped with those types of programs, who am I to disagree.
I could easily see GA ending in the top 5 at 174. Overall we are in a lean set of years I’m afraid. Not a lot to look forward to team wise, but I’ll be supporting all the individual Hawkeye wrestlers and try to find some enjoyment there.
Hopefully Oklahoma State can at least make team titles competitive again. I’ll be rooting for them to take down PSU just to turn the page and make it interesting.
I would put Arnold top 5 and pretty sure AA type of guy
Not until he can score consistently. Heck Angelo's unwillingness to open up scares the heck out of me. Far too many quality wrestlers out there to keep wrestling 4-1 matches
Yea I agree about Arnold. Every match next year at NCAAs from Thursday night on is going to be a coin flip and grind it out affair with very little points. Not sure that’s a recipe for success, but it’s literally the same recipe for every guy on the roster right now against quality opponents, except Mikey C.
That would be a really good team for Indiana or Purdue, but this is Iowa. I'm not saying that is a bad team as it could be as high a 4th or one injury and some poor performance and it could be non top 10. At least admit this hasn't been acceptable at Iowa in the past 50 years.
Throw in Bassett at 141 and Miller at 165 and have Bailey and Petersen battling it out for 133 and that line up looks much much much better. I really wish we could have handled the Bassett situation better. I feel like us fans would be much more optimistic.
How could they have handled it better? Wasn’t the key issue a compliance issue that Brands had zero control over?
And you don't think there was talk of, and people were aware of, the pending rule change?
There are likely similarities between Bassett and Endene situations. They likely center on communications and ego... feelings of being 'shaken down.'
So, because the rule change was coming LATER, they should have just broken the rules then when compliance said no?
Speaking of cogent arguments…
Not sure what else they could have done, but the end result was not good. Leaders being able to work with administration to handle problems is a major part of the coach’s job.
Issues that should have been identified were not, yet again. Then we’re stuck kicking the can down the road another year due to poor planning/execution.
The Bassetts demanded flight reimbursement immediately? You know that for a fact?
Either the Brands weren't in the know, or they refused to include future travel and stay costs knowing the change was coming.
Didn't Jax get an apartment as a work around?
Where's the big compliance issue with Jax?
No reason NIL payments couldn't have included travel costs associated with performing a NIL contract, or provided a residence to support their fulfillment.
Ego. Feeling of a shake down.
You have to understand that MSU perceives what would be a great lineup for Michigan State is good enough for Iowa because in a niche sport and really just finishing top ten is about all you can ever ask for.
I am spitting my coffee out laughing that he only really sees 2 holes to bandage up in the portal.
Stay golden pony boy!!
I swear this board is full of people that need to desperately take a reading comprehension course. I didn't say that they were going to be a great team, even with 2 high end transfers. I CLEARLY said they wouldn't sniff PSU. The point was that they have a legit AA contender at every weight but 2 going into next season and MOST of my argument was against someone saying they are falling outside of the top 10. Ferrari ALONE should score half the points needed to finish around 8th. 2 more AA's would get them to that point. Another 2 solid finishes would get them to top 5.
Even after all that, I clearly said not accepting 5th is a different argument altogether. If 5th isn't good enough for you, fine. I wouldn't argue against that stance for next season. But, expecting ANY team to truly compete with a team scoring 170+ points is beyond comical. Even Gable only did that 1x...
With what they were reportedly getting in NIL $, pretty sure they could afford their own dam flights and lodging.
Lol There’s not much need next year to improve the team? Just need to replace two wrestlers? That SHOULD keep us in the top ten, eh?
I have a hard time believing it came down to just that. Bob is literally in the real estate business. Finding a rental in Iowa City shouldn't have been an issue. Its like buying a Corvette and complaining about paying for custom floor mats later on.
I feel pretty safe in saying Brands lack of tact and de-escalation was the biggest factor. Its just not convenient for the pro Brands crowd to admit.
Probably could but it was worth some level of revisiting given Miller's signing was imminent. And also little Basset at some point.
The definition of cant see the forrest through the trees.
So you're saying Iowa leadership made a fiscal choice? And that choice was based on what? Feelings of being shaken down? Aren't those kinds of feelings rooted in ego?
Im not saying it came down to that. If that was a factor at all, it says way more about that family than the Brands. It’s been talked about plenty on here, the U wasn’t willing to bend the rules and the Bassetts were jealous of Jax being able to train in Stillwater whenever he wanted. Could it have been handled better and we held onto them? No idea.
Just the same as you saying it’s convenient for the pro Brands crowd using that “excuse”, it’s convenient for the anti-Brands crowd to use it against them, having no idea what the conversations were like
Wtf are you blabbering about? Iowa leadership made a choice to not break the rules. If the Bassetts were really complaining about not having flights and housing paid for after the NIL deal they reportedly agreed to, then screw em!