Next Years Lineup

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The lineup is starting to look really impressive at O-State, what weight class would you like to wrestle next season and where are you most comfortable?

"I think that this decision will ultimately come down to the coaches and where they think I’m best. I wanna be a 165-pounder but if they think I’m a better 157-pounder or 174-pounder for the team then I’m gonna do it and I’m still gonna keep the same goals and compete to the best of my ability."
 

Howie_Fartz

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Tagen is going 141. With Vega waiting in the wings if Tagen doesn't perform.

Hughes is going to have to get healthy and get his **** together to see the lineup at 133.
Tagen going 41 is absolutely not written is stone. They will be evaluating him throughout the offseason. He had some health issues during the season that very few know about and the weight cut made it worse as the season went on. Those issues will be hopefully remedied whether the coaches ask him to go 41 or not. I think a healthy Tagen wins the spot at 49 and theyll have to look hard at Swiderski going 41 or theyll talk Tagen into going back down (which is what happened this last season). As far as Vega taking his spot? Aint no way lol.

133 will be wild in the room next season. Figs, Rin, and JJ (who let it be known he isnt rolling over for Figs) will be battling. Hughes? I just dont know honestly. His cut to 33 last year was less than Tagens cut to 41. Hell have to stay 100% committed to living the life if he evens wants in the conversation.
 

643Bsbl

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Tagen going 41 is absolutely not written is stone. They will be evaluating him throughout the offseason. He had some health issues during the season that very few know about and the weight cut made it worse as the season went on. Those issues will be hopefully remedied whether the coaches ask him to go 41 or not. I think a healthy Tagen wins the spot at 49 and theyll have to look hard at Swiderski going 41 or theyll talk Tagen into going back down (which is what happened this last season). As far as Vega taking his spot? Aint no way lol.

133 will be wild in the room next season. Figs, Rin, and JJ (who let it be known he isnt rolling over for Figs) will be battling. Hughes? I just dont know honestly. His cut to 33 last year was less than Tagens cut to 41. Hell have to stay 100% committed to living the life if he evens wants in the conversation.
I damn sure wouldn’t be saying no way Vega can’t take the 141 spot. Vega is a special talent
 

TheJimReaper

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Tagen going 41 is absolutely not written is stone. They will be evaluating him throughout the offseason. He had some health issues during the season that very few know about and the weight cut made it worse as the season went on. Those issues will be hopefully remedied whether the coaches ask him to go 41 or not. I think a healthy Tagen wins the spot at 49 and theyll have to look hard at Swiderski going 41 or theyll talk Tagen into going back down (which is what happened this last season). As far as Vega taking his spot? Aint no way lol.

133 will be wild in the room next season. Figs, Rin, and JJ (who let it be known he isnt rolling over for Figs) will be battling. Hughes? I just dont know honestly. His cut to 33 last year was less than Tagens cut to 41. Hell have to stay 100% committed to living the life if he evens wants in the conversation.
Howie how do you see Dee, Facundo, BT, and Ryder shaking out?

Seems like we won’t know the lineup until right before the season.
 
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SlickWillie18

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Dee 65, Facundo 74 and Ryder 84. BT may be a factor if he gets his weight under control and lives the life 24/7- 365. Just my opinion.
I was surprised/pleased to see BT decided to stay after Ryder came in. There must be a level of confidence there that he can realistically take and keep the spot, else he’d probably have left and gone elsewhere (I would think for a decent NIL package as well).
 
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MALOS

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HE will get a shot to compete at 149 if weight cut too much and Vega can slide in as a true freshman. It’s simple to me best wrestler goes between 141-149
Hughes at 41 and Jamison at 49 is the best option. Jamison can win the wrestle off at either weight but, my fear is he crashes the second half of the season because of the weight cut at 41. Jamison would be in the title mix at 49 IMO

Hughes, Jamison is better than a big Jamison and small Swiderski
 

tom_v31

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Dee 65, Facundo 74 and Ryder 84. BT may be a factor if he gets his weight under control and lives the life 24/7- 365. Just my opinion.
Redundancy may be a bit awkward at the beginning of the season, but often, injuries tend to shake things out and then we are very happy we have a potential starter come off the bench. We had two last year. The backups should be training almost like they could start the next match, because they could easily be.
 
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osu2082

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Tagen going 41 is absolutely not written is stone. They will be evaluating him throughout the offseason. He had some health issues during the season that very few know about and the weight cut made it worse as the season went on. Those issues will be hopefully remedied whether the coaches ask him to go 41 or not. I think a healthy Tagen wins the spot at 49 and theyll have to look hard at Swiderski going 41 or theyll talk Tagen into going back down (which is what happened this last season). As far as Vega taking his spot? Aint no way lol.

133 will be wild in the room next season. Figs, Rin, and JJ (who let it be known he isnt rolling over for Figs) will be battling. Hughes? I just dont know honestly. His cut to 33 last year was less than Tagens cut to 41. Hell have to stay 100% committed to living the life if he evens wants in the conversation.

I got to visit with our NC wrestlers Tuesday. Figs is actually a big 125. He walks around at close to 160 in the offseason. Said staff is stoked and think he is a NC caliber 133.

Plan as of now is Jamison 141 and ISU transfer at 149 who the staff is also very high on his ceiling. Thinks if Jamison struggles staying in a good weight range this summer they will look to bump him up to 157.
 

Cowboy_1988

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Hughes at 41 and Jamison at 49 is the best option. Jamison can win the wrestle off at either weight but, my fear is he crashes the second half of the season because of the weight cut at 41. Jamison would be in the title mix at 49 IMO

Hughes, Jamison is better than a big Jamison and small Swiderski
Gonna fun to see who the best wrestlers are at those weights after the summer.
 

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Hughes at 41 and Jamison at 49 is the best option. Jamison can win the wrestle off at either weight but, my fear is he crashes the second half of the season because of the weight cut at 41. Jamison would be in the title mix at 49 IMO

Hughes, Jamison is better than a big Jamison and small Swiderski
I am NOT trying to run down Jamison, I know he is a solid wrestler and a good kid. However, I cannot believe the respect he gets on here and the optimism for future performance. He was not highly recruited and has failed to meet expectations at the NCAA tournament two years in a row, going 2-4. Take away the name and just say "Wrestler A" and no way anyone thinks that his production warrants a starting spot on a team challenging for a national championship. I hope he gets beat out because our team will be better if that happens.

Of course, this post should be bookmarked. And when he scores 15+ points next year at NCAA's, I should be reminded of how dumb I am. I'm also hoping for this result.
 

okokzach

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I am NOT trying to run down Jamison, I know he is a solid wrestler and a good kid. However, I cannot believe the respect he gets on here and the optimism for future performance. He was not highly recruited and has failed to meet expectations at the NCAA tournament two years in a row, going 2-4. Take away the name and just say "Wrestler A" and no way anyone thinks that his production warrants a starting spot on a team challenging for a national championship. I hope he gets beat out because our team will be better if that happens.

Of course, this post should be bookmarked. And when he scores 15+ points next year at NCAA's, I should be reminded of how dumb I am. I'm also hoping for this result.
I have esteem for Tagen because I watched him wrestle. I don't think he's anywhere near his potential, and I think he'd be even better at 149 and not worrying about his weight as much. I'm not blindly slotting in Swiderski because he wasn't beating out Echemendia and he's known to be a hothead, including in the room. If they both make the lineup, that's great, but I'm really hoping Tagen tries for the 149 spot.
 

OAMC99

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I have esteem for Tagen because I watched him wrestle. I don't think he's anywhere near his potential, and I think he'd be even better at 149 and not worrying about his weight as much. I'm not blindly slotting in Swiderski because he wasn't beating out Echemendia and he's known to be a hothead, including in the room. If they both make the lineup, that's great, but I'm really hoping Tagen tries for the 149 spot.
I will be stunned if Jamison can beat a fully healthy, fully focused, trained under our staff, Swiderski at 149. If that happens we are in really good shape.

It is scary to think of the talent we have in these incoming transfers coupled with what our staff did for Spratley, Hamiti, and Hendrickson. Figueroa, Swiderski, Facundo, and Ryder are all more highly accomplished and rated out of high school (Hamiti was close and maybe equal to Ryder) than those guys who just made the finals and won two national championships. What if we saw similar improvement and success stories from these new four??? We could be competing for a NC next year!
 

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I will be stunned if Jamison can beat a fully healthy, fully focused, trained under our staff, Swiderski at 149. If that happens we are in really good shape.

It is scary to think of the talent we have in these incoming transfers coupled with what our staff did for Spratley, Hamiti, and Hendrickson. Figueroa, Swiderski, Facundo, and Ryder are all more highly accomplished and rated out of high school (Hamiti was close and maybe equal to Ryder) than those guys who just made the finals and won two national championships. What if we saw similar improvement and success stories from these new four??? We could be competing for a NC
Jamison beating Swiderski at 149 wouldn't surprise me at all. Swiderski beating him wouldn't surprise me either.
 

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Sorry, does anyone know the dates of when seniors are wrestling of us open this upcoming weekend?
It starts Friday at 10AM for seniors freestyle, under 20 freestyle starts Saturday at 10AM, 17 under begins at 10AM on Saturday. We will learn a lot about our wrestlers this week. I am hoping for a performance similar to the Pittsburg classic (which was outstanding). Although the competition will be much stronger.
 
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I will be stunned if Jamison can beat a fully healthy, fully focused, trained under our staff, Swiderski at 149. If that happens we are in really good shape.

It is scary to think of the talent we have in these incoming transfers coupled with what our staff did for Spratley, Hamiti, and Hendrickson. Figueroa, Swiderski, Facundo, and Ryder are all more highly accomplished and rated out of high school (Hamiti was close and maybe equal to Ryder) than those guys who just made the finals and won two national championships. What if we saw similar improvement and success stories from these new four??? We could be competing for a NC next year!
Ill Be Back Jim Carrey GIF

You never know. Regretfully, I wrote off Hendrickson against Gable. If I could have, I would have handed over my OSU membership card. There is no disrespect at being a homer when there is a shot in a million.
 

Howie_Fartz

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People forget Tagen beat Echemendia who Swiderski couldnt beat. Hes also beat the national runner up the last two times they wrestled. Tagen up at 149 would be an animal. Ive mentioned there have been some health issues with him before and the pull to 141 didnt help and it definitely affected his wrestling. His first year the problem wasnt identified and and by the time they found the issue this last season he couldnt get it taken care of. If the coaches ask him to go 41 I'm hoping the issues are resolved and he'll be the right version of himself. If he's at 149 he'll be even better. He needs to work on having a style of constantly attacking and that is also something I think theyll be working on. I'd take Tagen over Swiderski at 149 all day and twice on Sunday.
 

TheJimReaper

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People forget Tagen beat Echemendia who Swiderski couldnt beat. Hes also beat the national runner up the last two times they wrestled. Tagen up at 149 would be an animal. Ive mentioned there have been some health issues with him before and the pull to 141 didnt help and it definitely affected his wrestling. His first year the problem wasnt identified and and by the time they found the issue this last season he couldnt get it taken care of. If the coaches ask him to go 41 I'm hoping the issues are resolved and he'll be the right version of himself. If he's at 149 he'll be even better. He needs to work on having a style of constantly attacking and that is also something I think theyll be working on. I'd take Tagen over Swiderski at 149 all day and twice on Sunday.
I know a lot of people have said that 141 is a tough cut for Casey but I wonder if maybe he’d have an easier time with the right lifestyle? No judgement on the dude but it sounds like he was definitely a partier at ISU and liked to drink.

if he cut that stuff out would he have an easier time at 141?
 
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Air_Thurman

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People forget Tagen beat Echemendia who Swiderski couldnt beat. Hes also beat the national runner up the last two times they wrestled. Tagen up at 149 would be an animal. Ive mentioned there have been some health issues with him before and the pull to 141 didnt help and it definitely affected his wrestling. His first year the problem wasnt identified and and by the time they found the issue this last season he couldnt get it taken care of. If the coaches ask him to go 41 I'm hoping the issues are resolved and he'll be the right version of himself. If he's at 149 he'll be even better. He needs to work on having a style of constantly attacking and that is also something I think theyll be working on. I'd take Tagen over Swiderski at 149 all day and twice on Sunday.
So why was Swiderski a priority?
 

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From what I have seen swiderski has a passion you can’t teach. Also from experience hahaha if he does clean up and quit drinking he’s going to be an animal. Talked to a guy at big 12s he said alot of the guys were upset in Ames because Cubans received special treatment plus practices lead to injuries..source was a wrestlers dad.
 
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Old Number Nine

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People forget Tagen beat Echemendia who Swiderski couldnt beat. Hes also beat the national runner up the last two times they wrestled. Tagen up at 149 would be an animal. Ive mentioned there have been some health issues with him before and the pull to 141 didnt help and it definitely affected his wrestling. His first year the problem wasnt identified and and by the time they found the issue this last season he couldnt get it taken care of. If the coaches ask him to go 41 I'm hoping the issues are resolved and he'll be the right version of himself. If he's at 149 he'll be even better. He needs to work on having a style of constantly attacking and that is also something I think theyll be working on. I'd take Tagen over Swiderski at 149 all day and twice on Sunday.
I think Tagen can beat anyone, he just doesn't seem to know it.
 

Air_Thurman

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Was he a priority? He didn't shop around in the portal. Sounds like he was set on OSU similar to Hamiti
I mean wouldn't that indicate he was a priority? One of the bigger portal names and him going to OSU was a foregone conclusion. He was our first get out of the portal.

And I'm not saying he is head and shoulders above Jameson. I don't like the kids' antics but he is a former AA and a monster recruit out of HS. I don't know were he fits but from the outside looking in he looks like someone the coaches really wanted. He also has a style that matches DT. I would just be surprised if he isn't in the lineup somewhere next year.
 

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What I see no one talking about is Travis started his career at 141. He wrestled 2 years at 141 in college. I believe he bumped up to 157 just to fill a hole and did pretty damn good. Any shot of him getting back down there? Let him and Hughes battle it out for 141. And Jamison and Swiderski covering 49 and 57? Watch out for Robideau after a redshirt year this year. Dude is going to be nasty!

25-26
125: Spratley
133: Figueroa
141: Travis/Hughes
149: Jamison/Swiderski
157: Jamison/Swiderski/Lockett
165: Facundo/Lockett
174: Facundo/Ryder/Thompson
184: Ryder/Thompson
197: Merrill
HWT: Doucet

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125: Spratley
133: Forrest/Vega
141: Vega/Forrest
149: Jamison/Swiderski
157: Jamison/Swiderski/Robideau
165: Lockett/Robideau
174: Lockett/Facundo
184: Ryder/Thompson
197: Merrill
HWT: Ross/Johnson/Transfer
 

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I mean wouldn't that indicate he was a priority? One of the bigger portal names and him going to OSU was a foregone conclusion. He was our first get out of the portal.

And I'm not saying he is head and shoulders above Jameson. I don't like the kids' antics but he is a former AA and a monster recruit out of HS. I don't know were he fits but from the outside looking in he looks like someone the coaches really wanted. He also has a style that matches DT. I would just be surprised if he isn't in the lineup somewhere next year.
If that indicates he was a priority, then wouldn't it also indicate he was poached? My starting point is to assume he wasn't poached and so my conclusion is that he was set on coming to OSU for his own reasons (like he talked about in the podcast).
 
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If that indicates he was a priority, then wouldn't it also indicate he was poached? My starting point is to assume he wasn't poached and so my conclusion is that he was set on coming to OSU for his own reasons (like he talked about in the podcast).

"poaching" isn't a thing.

Swiderski didn't want to go back down to 141,, probably needed a change of scenery and the staff (yours), for whatever reason, really believes he can be a NC.
 

Air_Thurman

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If that indicates he was a priority, then wouldn't it also indicate he was poached? My starting point is to assume he wasn't poached and so my conclusion is that he was set on coming to OSU for his own reasons (like he talked about in the podcast)
I have no idea if he was poached. But I think there was a good chance he was. I'm just not going to turn into a PSU fan where I believe all these guys just show up on the door step. I think if a former AA shows up at your school the coaches wanted them.

But I say that having zero clue how this all went down. Maybe he did just show up and he is getting zero NIL/scholarship money.