NFL '26 Divisional Round Playoff Games thread (1/17-18)

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The Rams were lucky to beat the Bears? Were you in the bathroom when Williams completes a desperation pass on 4th down to Kmet to tie the game with only a few seconds left in the game?
Yes that was a Hail Mary prayer that was answered. McVay's Rams blow leads so it was not shocking. I should have said once in OT they were fortunate not lucky.
 

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If he doesn't have possession which is highly debatable then it is shared which goes to the receiver. The defender has his hands on the ball. You can't say he bobbled it into the defender's hand. The defender already has some possession of the ball IF you are ruling Cooks did not have full possession of the ball when he hit the ground.

This was either full possession by Cooks as he was down or a shared possession as he hit the ground. The refs were incompetent and said he was bobbling it then it was ripped away. Yet the bobble as it were was a struggle for possession (again if you look at it as best case for Denver because Cooks did have possession and not a shared but if you go with shared possession theory) thus the play is over when Cooks is down. The ref is ruling it like Cooks went down was bobbling the ball as his knee and back hit the ground and then the defender jumped in and snatched the ball before the ball hit the ground and they roll over and wa la the defender has the ball. It is not that type of play. The defender reached in and grabbed the ball before Cooks hit the ground but Cooks had the ball too so it is a shared possession. Thus the play has to be over once Cooks is down and a shared possession goes to Cooks. To me, these officials went out of their way (incorrectly and incompetently) to give the ball back to Denver.
They aren't saying it was shared possession--the ruling was no one had possession which appears correct.
The refs were no incompetent--it was reviewed as well-the expert on the broadcast said the same thing.
When you start saying the officials were "giving" the game to someone you lose any credibility
I was rooting for Buffalo--hell, I would have rooting for Buffalo against my Steelers if they played each other--but the refs had zero impact on that game. Buffalo lost and McDermott's awful coaching decisions are throughout the game is why he's fired.
 

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They aren't saying it was shared possession--the ruling was no one had possession which appears correct.
The refs were no incompetent--it was reviewed as well-the expert on the broadcast said the same thing.
When you start saying the officials were "giving" the game to someone you lose any credibility
I was rooting for Buffalo--hell, I would have rooting for Buffalo against my Steelers if they played each other--but the refs had zero impact on that game. Buffalo lost and McDermott's awful coaching decisions are throughout the game is why he's fired.
By their actions they did seal McDermott's fate. Did they do it intentionally? Probably not but it still doesn't excuse their incompetence. More on McDermott below in third and fourth paragraph.

Yes, obviously they didn't think it was a shared possession. But it was at best if not possession by Cooks. That is where we differ and I differ from all their "experts". Neither of us will change our opinion. We can agree to disagree. I stated my opinion. I wanted Buffalo but am not a big fan of theirs.

That call goes Buffalo's way they win and McDermott has a job this week. They could have lost to NE and he probably would have been fired. My point is simply if that call goes the other way Buffalo wins barring a major choke job by their kicker.

And if Buffalo wins that game do you think McDermott is fired? No, he is not. I am not saying whether he coached a good game or bad game or an average game. I don't care. Heck I don't know much of anything about McDermott. I do know he is not fired if Buffalo wins that game and if that call goes Buffalo's way there is a high, high probability Buffalo wins it. That is the logic train, no denying it. So in this argument about McDermott, I am not commenting on if the call was right or not. I stated my opinion about that in the first paragraph. If the ref rules that was a catch then McDermott has a job this week. No denying that unless you are convinced their kicker misses a extra point like FG.
 

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By their actions they did seal McDermott's fate. Did they do it intentionally? Probably not but it still doesn't excuse their incompetence. More on McDermott below in third and fourth paragraph.

Yes, obviously they didn't think it was a shared possession. But it was at best if not possession by Cooks. That is where we differ and I differ from all their "experts". Neither of us will change our opinion. We can agree to disagree. I stated my opinion. I wanted Buffalo but am not a big fan of theirs.

That call goes Buffalo's way they win and McDermott has a job this week. They could have lost to NE and he probably would have been fired. My point is simply if that call goes the other way Buffalo wins barring a major choke job by their kicker.

And if Buffalo wins that game do you think McDermott is fired? No, he is not. I am not saying whether he coached a good game or bad game or an average game. I don't care. Heck I don't know much of anything about McDermott. I do know he is not fired if Buffalo wins that game and if that call goes Buffalo's way there is a high, high probability Buffalo wins it. That is the logic train, no denying it. So in this argument about McDermott, I am not commenting on if the call was right or not. I stated my opinion about that in the first paragraph. If the ref rules that was a catch then McDermott has a job this week. No denying that unless you are convinced their kicker misses a extra point like FG.
Buffalo probably wins if it's ruled a catch but they definitely win if they take a knee before the half...that decision got him fired.
 
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Buffalo probably wins if it's ruled a catch but they definitely win if they take a knee before the half...that decision got him fired.
To clarify, IF Buffalo won he is not getting fired. So if the catch was ruled a catch then McDermott would still have a job and the decision to not take a knee would not be an issue. I do think McDermott probably needed to win the AFC to keep his job and the way Buffalo kind of blows games they most likely lose to NE at NE and he gone at that point.
 

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To clarify, IF Buffalo won he is not getting fired. So if the catch was ruled a catch then McDermott would still have a job and the decision to not take a knee would not be an issue. I do think McDermott probably needed to win the AFC to keep his job and the way Buffalo kind of blows games they most likely lose to NE at NE and he gone at that point.
But the catch is never in play if he doesn't screw up before the end of the half. And yes he likely needed to win the AFC.
 

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But the catch is never in play if he doesn't screw up before the end of the half. And yes he likely needed to win the AFC.
Yes but it was so again in that scenario where you keep everything as is until the catch then he still has a job. And yes if Allen doesn't fumble and other things as well things change. But just isolating to that play (all other things stay as they happened) it is interesting that if ruled a catch he still has a job.
 

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Yes but it was so again in that scenario where you keep everything as is until the catch then he still has a job. And yes if Allen doesn't fumble and other things as well things change. But just isolating to that play (all other things stay as they happened) it is interesting that if ruled a catch he still has a job.
Because the coach controlled that decision. He doesn't control the ruling of the catch. I'm not questioning that play call. Also, I think we agree he has a job today but still didn't another win because he doesn't put his team in the right position. It's part of the reason they blow so many leads.
 

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There is no angle showing that he bobbled it into his arms. That is made up and what the ref thought happened and then the ref was too arrogant to stop the game and review it. Cooks has possession and the "bobble" is because the defender is pulling at the ball that causes the ball to ultimately come loose. Here is the key point....at the time of Cooks hitting the ground it is either full possession by Cooks or the defender has some possession and it is shared. Either way that is the receiver's ball or possession. The defender got the ball because he got his hands in there and started pulling it out. Maybe eventually as he pulled he triggered a "bobble" but that doesn't matter because at the time Cooks hit the ground it is shared possession. Look at the photo. The defender has his hands on the ball and Cook has it on his chest. There is no bobble at that point with Cooks down. You have to rule that Cooks is down there and it is shared possession with the possession to the offense. That ref caused McDermott to get fired. McDermott should send him an invoice for the amount of money this incompetent and careless call cost him. Maybe he can sue him. Lol!
The receiver has to complete the catch and he didn’t. It’s not like once he’s down it’s automatically a catch. If you jump to catch a ball and land on your back and the ball pops out, it’s incomplete. In this case it popped into the defenders hands and never touched the ground therefore INT.
 

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Because the coach controlled that decision. He doesn't control the ruling of the catch. I'm not questioning that play call. Also, I think we agree he has a job today but still didn't another win because he doesn't put his team in the right position. It's part of the reason they blow so many leads.
That is what is so crazy about it. He could have made 20 horrible decisions in that game but then if he is still in position to win the game and gets the benefit of that call then he saves his job. Pegula said it today it is because they lost that game. He actually could have coached a great game but if they didn't win then he is fired.

Ultimately they needed to be at least making a Super Bowl appearance at this point especially with Josh Allen. They have been in the playoffs like 7 straight years yet never win the AFC. Need someone else to get them over the hump.
 

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The receiver has to complete the catch and he didn’t. It’s not like once he’s down it’s automatically a catch. If you jump to catch a ball and land on your back and the ball pops out, it’s incomplete. In this case it popped into the defenders hands and never touched the ground therefore INT.
I'm done explaining my viewpoint. You think he bobbled it and it was a pick and I think otherwise as I have explained in detail in previous posts. Neither of us are changing positions. Time to move on.
 
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Maybe the Steelers pick him up? I doubt it though.
I don't think the Steelers will hire McDermott either but when I ask myself why not I got nothing. He has to be better than McCarthy. The only way hiring McCarthy could work in Pittsburgh would be if Rodgers moves on, however that plays out. Rodgers in Pittsburgh for another year would make for a disaster, whoever is the head coach, most likely, but with McCarthy it's guaranteed.
 

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I don't think the Steelers will hire McDermott either but when I ask myself why not I got nothing. He has to be better than McCarthy. The only way hiring McCarthy could work in Pittsburgh would be if Rodgers moves on, however that plays out. Rodgers in Pittsburgh for another year would make for a disaster, whoever is the head coach, most likely, but with McCarthy it's guaranteed.
I have not heard McCarthy's name in this search but I have not followed it. Is he being considered?

I ruled out McDermott because I thought they wanted to go the way of an under 40 up and coming coordinator.
 

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I have not heard McCarthy's name in this search but I have not followed it. Is he being considered?

I ruled out McDermott because I thought they wanted to go the way of an under 40 up and coming coordinator.
Yeah, go check the NFL Coaches Carousel thread. McCarthy is in play for Pittsburgh.
 
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