NFL Coaching Jobs

[Coast_Dawg]

Why are there so many retreads in the NFL and not that many new guys(people) getting opportunities?

Seems to happen with HC jobs, OC/DC jobs. Doesn’t matter.

 

[tenureplan]

I blame Spurrier

 

[SteelCurtain74]

I'm not sure that's the case as much now with HC jobs but more with OC/DC jobs. Just this year you have Judge with the Giants, Rhule with the Panthers and Kevin Stefansky with the Browns. Last year had Kingsbury with the Cardinals, Zac Taylor with the Bengals, Brian Flores with the Dolphins and Fangio with the Broncos. None of these are retreads. Mccarthy is with the Cowboys and Rivera with the Redskins but that's it in the last couple of years. I would expect to see Bienemy with the Chiefs get a serious look this coming cycle to fill one of the vacant jobs.

 

[57stratdawg]

I think some of that is an appreciate of just how difficult it is to consistently win in today’s NFL. I’m guessing the average coaching tenure now is less than 5 years. You almost have to have two bad outcomes as HC before teams hold it against you. Adam Gase for instance.

 

[tenureplan]

Plus Rivera is known for turning locker rooms around. I think there are more retreads in the NBA. How many chances can Van Gundy get?

 

[shotgunDawg]

College jobs used to be way behind the NFL in terms of pay, but that's no longer the case. Thus, it seems that most coaches just stay where they are, if they're really successful. Joe Brady and Matt Rhule made jump last year though

 

[PineGroveBully]

I think those front office jobs have become such pressure cookers in an ever increasing results oriented profession where the learning curve is more of line. Leaving most GM’s unwilling to take a chance on an unknown when their *** may get shown the door if you hire the wrong unknown. Thus they make the absolute safest hire that they can get away with. Outside of just a few of the upper echelon franchises most GMs make hires knowing that the guy will never make a SB, might win a wild card game ever 5-6 years but they know all the good and the bad. They know he’s unlikely to get caught beating his wife or his meat on the sideline(looking at you Cannizaro). And they know he’s probably not gonna win 10 games in a season but probably not gonna lose 10 games either. Being a NFL coach is about like being a congressman. Once you get in the club it takes real initiative to get booted from.

 

[Coast_Dawg]

I'm not sure that's the case as much now with HC jobs but more with OC/DC jobs. Just this year you have Judge with the Giants, Rhule with the Panthers and Kevin Stefansky with the Browns. Last year had Kingsbury with the Cardinals, Zac Taylor with the Bengals, Brian Flores with the Dolphins and Fangio with the Broncos. None of these are retreads. Mccarthy is with the Cowboys and Rivera with the Redskins but that's it in the last couple of years. I would expect to see Bienemy with the Chiefs get a serious look this coming cycle to fill one of the vacant jobs.

Wow, really didn’t think about how many first time coaches came into the league this year. Thanks for making me aware. I was thinking about Kingsbury and forgot about Rhule and Judge. The others are still foreign to me.

 

[Coast_Dawg]

Being a NFL coach is about like being a congressman. Once you get in the club it takes real initiative to get booted from.

This is kinda what I’m curious about. I just don’t understand brotherhoods I guess.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

I think some of that is an appreciate of just how difficult it is to consistently win in today’s NFL. I’m guessing the average coaching tenure now is less than 5 years. You almost have to have two bad outcomes as HC before teams hold it against you. Adam Gase for instance.

And that is because of Belichick. Why would anyone hire him after Cleveland?

 

[Russ Wheeler]

I'm still unsure of the skillset required to coach successfully in the NFL. You can usually break down college coaches into the CEO/recruiter types (Dabo, Orgeron, Carroll), fundamental/organizer/planner types (Saban, Mullen, Smart), and system guys (Leach, Malzahn, Kelly). Obviously Carroll was successful in the NFL, Saban wasn't, and Kelly was in the middle, of the examples I listed. Recruiting is a big part of the college game, but maybe that personality can carry over to the NFL, i.e. keeping players egos aligned and happy. Then you have someone like Belichek who is probably in the second group, possibly the third. Then you have these young "offensive minds" (whatever the hell that means) that basically coach the QB. Who knows, that's probably just a trend, but in this day of results-now type of mentality, maybe that's the best route. Building a lasting program like the Patriots is fleeting, and obviously that falls apart as soon as the QB leaves.