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krazykats

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Kizer was an awful pick with all the talent left Cleveland could have drafted a starter. Nice to see their 1st round was just a fluke.

Mixon is perfect in Cinci. Best RB they have now.

One of, if not the best LB is still out there in Jordan Willis. Whoever gets this kid will have a stud!
 

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Cinci did very well. If they would just hand the ball to Raymond Anthony McCarron things would be feel a lot better.
 

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They can run the ball again with the dirtbag. All they could have used earlier was a Hooker.... Who Dey. How about an effin line?
 

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The bungles need to trade mccarron asap. Im happy ross, mixon, and the dude from k st. He was defensive player of the yr in the big 12 and will help geno. What's your take on mixon and ross as players? Will they be immediate impact players?

What say u @crazyqx83?
 

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Absolutely love what the Steelers have done.

Snag a couple more DBs and BAAs, and I'm thrilled.
 

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The bungles need to trade mccarron asap. Im happy ross, mixon, and the dude from k st. He was defensive player of the yr in the big 12 and will help geno. What's your take on mixon and ross as players? Will they be immediate impact players?

What say u @crazyqx83?
The Bengals is doing a great job in this draft. Ross and Green on the field together is a scary thought for defenses. Mixon is the most complete back in the draft. He's probably better than Hill and Gio right now. He will be the steal of the draft in my opinion.
 

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The Bengals is doing a great job in this draft. Ross and Green on the field together is a scary thought for defenses. Mixon is the most complete back in the draft. He's probably better than Hill and Gio right now. He will be the steal of the draft in my opinion.
Good picks but they still have the dufus of a coach, so it really won't matter imo. They need a couple of LB's too.
 

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All this talk about Stoops recruiting but we still come up short on early round draft picks. We have to get some kids drafted to take the next step for this program.
 

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[laughing]

Can't help but think of all of the trouble several Cincy players have had since 2000 with suspensions, breaking the law, etc…Especially the high volume of domestic abuse and assault and battery incidents.

So yeah…Mixon fits right in with Cincy. :scream:

http://nfl-arrests.pointafter.com/d/a/Cincinnati-Bengals

I can't wait ro see year another terrible character guy cost the Bengals in crunch time and then listen to their fans blame the Steelers.
 

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I can't wait ro see year another terrible character guy cost the Bengals in crunch time and then listen to their fans blame the Steelers.
Didn't the Steelers just have a guy come off a year long suspension? Yeah they did. They ain't choir boys either.
 

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Yea but they don't lose to the Bengals either.

Seriously impressed with Cinci's draft.
 

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Boom Williams is still on the board.

I know my Skins took the other RB from Oklahoma in the 4th round…but i would like to see them take a late flyer on Boom with one of their last 3 picks just because.
 

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The buccanners had a phenomenal draft in my eyes with the limited picks they had. Lets break them down.

1st rd Pick 19 O.J Howard: Alabama TE- Projected to go 6th to the jets in most mock drafts, consensus top 10 pick. Falls to 19th and the Bucs organization hits HR. What looks to be a possible top 5 offense next year. Likely locks Jamies up for that 2nd contract. The guys an absolute animal at 6'6 251 and runs a 4.5 40 yard dash. Best receiving and blocking TE in the draft. Likely dropped due to lack of glamorous stats, but he played at Run first Alabama in an offense that didnt utilize tightends. Look for this guy to be a top 5 TE by the end of the season.
Grade A+

2nd Rd Pick 50 Justin Evans: S TAMU- I can never fault an organization for going with SEC players early in the draft even if he is a JUCO tranfer from Mississippi Gulf College. Justin Evans looks to be an athletic and hard hitting safety, albeit a tad undersized at 5'11. He will play better closer to the line, but is capable of dropping into zone coverage. The challenge for this prospect will be coverage in man to man situations and being able to cover his half of the field deep in cover 2 situations. Missed tackles at the end of the season, he must improve on that. The pick seemed to be a tad bit of a reach, because he didn't participate in the combine so his numbers are unknown.
Grade: B

Rd 3 pick 84 Chris Goodwin: WR Penn State- A 6'3 WR that has good explosiveness off the line(4.5 40) and seems to go 100 mph at all times, which can be a good and bad thing. Goodwin is a great throw it up and go get it WR, he came down with a majority of the 50/50 balls he was thrown in college. His weakness is route running, while fast Goodwin stumbles out of breaks at times and rounds off some of his speed cuts. Footwork must improve. I wouldve like to see the Bucs take D'onta Freeman at this pick or DB. WR wasnt a need position to fill.
Grade: C+

Rd 3 pick 107 Kendell Beckwith: OLB LSU- Beckwith seemed to be a Run stopping Hard hitting strong side linebacker at LSU. Unafraid to fill the hole. Love the potential in this pick, but Beckwith is coming off a torn ACL in November. He could very well redshirt his first year at TB and be a wait and see prospect for TB in his sophomore season. At the last pick in the 3rd round I like the move, Beckwith wouldve been considered at 2nd round pick if not for injury.
Grade: B

Round 5 Pick 162 Jeremy McNichols: RB Boise State- Number 1 in touchdowns over the past 2 years with 53, doesnt quite have break away speed for a RB at 4.49 40. Avg 179 ypg all purpose. I'm not in love with the pick like others are. Ball security is an issue, Good value in the 6th round though.
Grade: B+


If you want me to breakdown your team I'd love to do it. I'm a Big time NFL fan.
 

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The buccanners had a phenomenal draft in my eyes with the limited picks they had. Lets break them down.

1st rd Pick 19 O.J Howard: Alabama TE- Projected to go 6th to the jets in most mock drafts, consensus top 10 pick. Falls to 19th and the Bucs organization hits HR. What looks to be a possible top 5 offense next year. Likely locks Jamies up for that 2nd contract. The guys an absolute animal at 6'6 251 and runs a 4.5 40 yard dash. Best receiving and blocking TE in the draft. Likely dropped due to lack of glamorous stats, but he played at Run first Alabama in an offense that didnt utilize tightends. Look for this guy to be a top 5 TE by the end of the season.
Grade A+

2nd Rd Pick 50 Justin Evans: S TAMU- I can never fault an organization for going with SEC players early in the draft even if he is a JUCO tranfer from Mississippi Gulf College. Justin Evans looks to be an athletic and hard hitting safety, albeit a tad undersized at 5'11. He will play better closer to the line, but is capable of dropping into zone coverage. The challenge for this prospect will be coverage in man to man situations and being able to cover his half of the field deep in cover 2 situations. Missed tackles at the end of the season, he must improve on that. The pick seemed to be a tad bit of a reach, because he didn't participate in the combine so his numbers are unknown.
Grade: B

Rd 3 pick 84 Chris Goodwin: WR Penn State- A 6'3 WR that has good explosiveness off the line(4.5 40) and seems to go 100 mph at all times, which can be a good and bad thing. Goodwin is a great throw it up and go get it WR, he came down with a majority of the 50/50 balls he was thrown in college. His weakness is route running, while fast Goodwin stumbles out of breaks at times and rounds off some of his speed cuts. Footwork must improve. I wouldve like to see the Bucs take D'onta Freeman at this pick or DB. WR wasnt a need position to fill.
Grade: C+

Rd 3 pick 107 Kendell Beckwith: OLB LSU- Beckwith seemed to be a Run stopping Hard hitting strong side linebacker at LSU. Unafraid to fill the hole. Love the potential in this pick, but Beckwith is coming off a torn ACL in November. He could very well redshirt his first year at TB and be a wait and see prospect for TB in his sophomore season. At the last pick in the 3rd round I like the move, Beckwith wouldve been considered at 2nd round pick if not for injury.
Grade: B

Round 5 Pick 162 Jeremy McNichols: RB Boise State- Number 1 in touchdowns over the past 2 years with 53, doesnt quite have break away speed for a RB at 4.49 40. Avg 179 ypg all purpose. I'm not in love with the pick like others are. Ball security is an issue, Good value in the 6th round though.
Grade: B+


If you want me to breakdown your team I'd love to do it. I'm a Big time NFL fan.

Do the Steelers.
 

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Pittsburgh Steelers 2017 Draft Class.

Rd 1 Pick 30 T.J Watt: DE/LB Wisconsin- 40: 4.69 21 Reps on Bench press. T.J didn't have a stellar combine, but on tape this guy looks like a monster. I see him as a full effort player that can give you a pass rush opposite James Harrison( who I can't believe still plays football). His name comes with a a lot of hype, and I don't see T.J as a pro bowl talent, but I do think his work ethic will shine through in Pitt locker room trying to live up to that hype. I believe TJ watt is a very solid draft pick at 30, and will be a perfect fit for a team first steeler defense.
Grade: B+

Rd2 pick 62 JuJu Smith-Schuster: WR USC- This pick threw me off as the Steelers already have an abundance of WR's on the team already: Brown, Bryant, Coates. JuJu is a big bodied possession WR that lacks separation ability. Good hands, hasn't shown ability to win 50/50 balls, but can work into that mold. Not a great blocker. High work ethic. Again he'll be player WR4 on the team so idk how many 50/50 balls he will get or even playing time. Not a fan of this pick at all
Grade: D+

Rd 3 Pick 94 Cameron Sutton: CB Tennessee- Sutton brings talent and confidence to the field. Will the Steelers be able to get him to use that talent on every play in the NFL? That remains to be seen. Love his ability to press on the line routinely throwing WRs off their routes early. I also like his quickness and ability to break on routes, which is also why he is a good return man. Knocks on Sutton is that he's injury prone and that might be possibly why he didnt give 100% on every play in college. Also needs to work on his tackling at 5'11 the NFL might bully him his first few years. I like him as a nickle DB.
Grade:B-

Rd 3 pick 105 James Connor: RB Pitt- I personally love this Pick. Conner showed to be a top back in the NCAA last year. Coming off his MCL tear and being diagnosed with Lymphoma injury/health will be a concern. He is a downhill running back that will square his shoulders and run through a defender. Lacks break away speed. I think that he will be a great complement to Leveon Bell.
Grade: B+

Rd 4 pick 135 Josh Dobbs, QB UT- With Big Ben's injury record drafting a Young QB late isn't a bad option. I like Dobbs attributes as a player, but will have to hone his skills to ever be considered a true NFL QB. Late in the 4th round I like the idea of grooming a 2nd string QB to take over if Big ben goes down. Landry Jones doesn't look like the answer to me. 4th round throw it against the and see if it sticks pick works out for me.
Grade B



Round 5, Pick 30 (No. 173) Brian Allen, DB, Utah

Round 6, Pick 30 (No. 213) Colin Holba, LS, Louisville
 

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Boom Williams is still on the board.

I know my Skins took the other RB from Oklahoma in the 4th round…but i would like to see them take a late flyer on Boom with one of their last 3 picks just because.
Congrats to boom! Signed by the bungles!
 

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The Josh Dobbs praise is funny to me. God knows he killed us every time we played him but anyone that has seen him plays knows that his accuracy is beyond terrible even for a running qb. He just can't throw the ball straight. In my mind that's pretty important in the nfl and I don't care what else you do well.
 

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The Josh Dobbs praise is funny to me. God knows he killed us every time we played him but anyone that has seen him plays knows that his accuracy is beyond terrible even for a running qb. He just can't throw the ball straight. In my mind that's pretty important in the nfl and I don't care what else you do well.
It's good value for a 2nd string qb late in the 4th
 

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Steelers fan here and I'm not a huge fan of their picks.

I don't know why they got a WR in the 2nd round when they need a DB and they were flying left and right. Could have had the 15-20th best but instead got the ~30th best a round later. They could've got a good WR in round 3. I also don't understand the QB pick. They have other 'win now' needs such as LB and TE and they could have had Jake Butt there. And a long snapper in the 6th? I think Watt will be great, but they didn't plug their other holes which I think is necessary as their window with Ben is only 2-3 more years.

I also don't like Cleveland or Cincinnati's draft. The Browns shouldn't have drafted Kizer - should go with Brock or Kessler this season, tank, and then get your QB next year in a loaded class.
 

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You don't like Clevelands draft? Goodness they absolutely crushed this draft and were completely unaware that they are Cleveland. The Kizer pick was more of a "hey this guy should have been picked already, I guess we will take him" pick.

Brantley, Garrett and Peppers will change that defense completely.

And I get not liking Cinci draft because they didn't pick what they needed in rounds 1-2.........but they still filled their needs and drafted 4 starters.

Me thinks your a troll.
 

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Cleveland had 400 picks, it would have been hard to screw it up. I just don't like to QB pick. And where does Peppers play? I'm nit-picking a little but I don't think Kizer is ever going to be a good QB. And I didn't like either of their trades. Do they have any playmakers?
 

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Pittsburgh Steelers 2017 Draft Class.

Rd2 pick 62 JuJu Smith-Schuster: WR USC- This pick threw me off as the Steelers already have an abundance of WR's on the team already: Brown, Bryant, Coates. JuJu is a big bodied possession WR that lacks separation ability. Good hands, hasn't shown ability to win 50/50 balls, but can work into that mold. Not a great blocker. High work ethic. Again he'll be player WR4 on the team so idk how many 50/50 balls he will get or even playing time. Not a fan of this pick at all
Grade: D+
Almost every other analyst had WR is a position of need for the Steelers. Martavis Bryant is coming off a year suspension for drugs (could easily relapse) and Sammie Coats was unreliable in the 2nd half of the season. The Steelers have to get the triple teams off of Antonio Brown.

Here is ESPN's Jeremy Fowler's take on that WR pick in the second round:

Best move: Second-round WR JuJu Smith-Schuster out of USC brings toughness and big-play ability to a crucial position. With uncertainty around Martavis Bryant, the Steelers needed a potential starter alongside Antonio Brown. Smith-Schuster can contribute right away. And he just turned 20, so there's plenty of room to grow.
 

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Cleveland had 400 picks, it would have been hard to screw it up. I just don't like to QB pick. And where does Peppers play? I'm nit-picking a little but I don't think Kizer is ever going to be a good QB. And I didn't like either of their trades. Do they have any playmakers?

Where does Peppers play? Have you seen him? He is a freak at safety and a playmaker as a returner. He can cover in the nickel and load the box against the run too.

He plays everywhere. Best comparison I've seen was Troy Palumato which is spot on and a perfect reason to take him and keep him from Pitt.
 

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I agree adding a WR would be nice, but improving their secondary and adding a TE are both a much greater need IMO. Ben threw for nearly 4000 yards last season and they're adding Bryant - I think they're okay there. Meanwhile their secondary got shredded most of the season and they don't draft a CB until the 3rd round? And while I love Connor I don't think they needed a RB there. The league has proven you can find a great RB in the later rounds and with the Steelers offensive line, they didn't need a RB there. They should have loaded up on defense in 4 of their first 5 picks.

Having said that this is coming from the person that loved the Jarvis Jones pick and didn't like the Bell pick so what do I know?
 

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Where does Peppers play? Have you seen him? He is a freak at safety and a playmaker as a returner. He can cover in the nickel and load the box against the run too.

He plays everywhere. Best comparison I've seen was Troy Palumato which is spot on and a perfect reason to take him and keep him from Pitt.

I saw him play a ton and don't know if he's a safety in the NFL. He's not a very good tackler and had 1 INT his entire career. He's athletic and a good hitter but not sure where he plays.

By the way are you able to have an adult discussion? We're talking about draft picks here
 

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Almost every other analyst had WR is a position of need for the Steelers. Martavis Bryant is coming off a year suspension for drugs (could easily relapse) and Sammie Coats was unreliable in the 2nd half of the season. The Steelers have to get the triple teams off of Antonio Brown.

Here is ESPN's Jeremy Fowler's take on that WR pick in the second round:

Best move: Second-round WR JuJu Smith-Schuster out of USC brings toughness and big-play ability to a crucial position. With uncertainty around Martavis Bryant, the Steelers needed a potential starter alongside Antonio Brown. Smith-Schuster can contribute right away. And he just turned 20, so there's plenty of room to grow.
A lot more positions could've been filled besides WR. Still not a fan of the pick, especially with all the DBs that were still out there
 

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They had 28383 picks because they traded for a QB plus picks....

That's why they crushed it. They didn't do what they usually do and select some young hot shot QB to throw to the wolves.
 

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They had 28383 picks because they traded for a QB plus picks....

That's why they crushed it. They didn't do what they usually do and select some young hot shot QB to throw to the wolves.

"Crushed it"? They got yet another young QB that they will throw to the wolves just like you said they wouldn't - you don't draft a QB in the 2nd round and not expect them to contribute immediately. And they got no skill positions for their QB to throw to. They got a lot of other good players but don't have a QB, RB, WR, etc. And they probably hurt their chances for Darnaud, Rosen or Allen next season.