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Testkid

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I would guess the ACC tournament at this point...there really is nothing to be gained against UNC on Saturday...the difference between a 2 seed and a 3 seed in the tournament is negligible....If UVA found a way to lose to Louisville however we may see him Saturday for a chance at the 1 seed...just my guess....

It’s the difference between 1 or 2 in the ncaa tournament which is a big deal considering how tough the 3s look compared to the 4 and 5
 

sheyduke

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I don't understand why people think this suddenly means he won't be returning. It's not as if we haven't been getting any updates on his condition. Coach literally said that he's on the last stage of the recovery process. He's coming back, but just may not happen as quickly as most of us were hoping for.
I’ve been telling myself we wouldn’t see him again until UNC, then Duke burnt Bakers red shirt and he plays minimal so it’s fifty fifty. If he doesn’t return for UNC I don’t expect to see him until the NCAA tourney.
 

Testkid

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I’ve been telling myself we wouldn’t see him again until UNC, then Duke burnt Bakers red shirt and he plays minimal so it’s fifty fifty. If he doesn’t return for UNC I don’t expect to see him until the NCAA tourney.
To me that would be a mistake. You dont want him to get his rust off in the games that matter most
 

Mr.Scary13

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To me that would be a mistake. You dont want him to get his rust off in the games that matter most

Yes, if he doesnt plan on getting back into the flow before tournament games they might as well tell him shut it down.
 

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The most careful people with Zion will be Duke coaches and trainers...for Zion and Duke. They have his future and Dukes future in mind and they won't rush him back until they are 100 percent sure he's 100 percent. This team has a real shot at a national title and I would rather see him for that run than a game vs Wake.

Some of us need to stop the hand wringing and enjoy the ride.
LET'S GO DUKE!
 
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SwatX1

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Yes, if he doesnt plan on getting back into the flow before tournament games they might as well tell him shut it down.

I can't tell if you're serious or not, but if he doesn't make it back until the final four, and then they say he can play, I play him. Maybe I wouldn't start him, and kind of see how the game goes, but no way I would have a freak talent like that available and not use it
 
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sheyduke

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The most careful people with Zion will be Duke coaches and trainers...for Zion and Duke. They have his future and Dukes future in mind and they won't rush him back until they are 100 percent sure he's 100 percent. This team has a real shot at a national title and I would rather see him for that run than a game vs Wake.

Some of us need to stop the hand wringing and enjoy the ride.
LET'S GO DUKE!
I disagree. The most careful people with Zion is mom and his future. We all act like his parents don’t have a say if he returns or not. The kid was seen jumping straight into the air the last game.

Anything at this point before the NCAA tournament is just a plus at this point. But then again you can get hurt playing in the last six games just as you could in the last ten of your college career
 

sheyduke

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I can't tell if you're serious or not, but if he doesn't make it back until the final four, and then they say he can play, I play him. Maybe I wouldn't start him, and kind of see how the game goes, but no way I would have a freak talent like that available and not use it
Duke won’t make the final four with out him.
 

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Just playing the conspiracy theorist but do you think K knows he is not coming back but is not releasing the news to the media because he does not want to put Zion in that position with his teammates and media? Seems far fetched I know, but the thought has crossed my mind.
If Coach K already knew that Zion isn’t coming back I’m pretty sure the players would’ve probably heard about it somehow whether intentionally or unintentionally, especially with how tight the team is and especially Zion and RJ being as tight as they are.
 

layneja

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Why bring back for Wake? We are winning by 40 and he probably wouldn't have played much anyway.
 

Mpm277

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Why bring back for Wake? We are winning by 40 and he probably wouldn't have played much anyway.
That's why you bring him back for WF.

Now I feel like we don't bring Zion back for his first game against UNC. Seems like a roll of the dice to bring in a rusty freshman who hasn't played in over two weeks to that hostile of an environment. Then again, it's Zion we're talking about so I don't know.

I think it'll be the ACC Tourney now.
 

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Extremely Disappointed. This feels like the kyrie treatment, in which they held him out of more games to be overly cautious. College injuries as “ career Enders” are completely overrated. Especially with such a minor injury. If he doesn’t play against unc,I will be utterly shocked and disappointed
 

HeLooks2MuchLikeDave

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Guess no one needs to watch anymore Duke games since Zion is shutting it down for the year. Heck, he probably won’t even sit on the bench during the tournaments as he will probably just be rehabbing to get ready for the draft. I doubt he shows up to class anymore.

Yeah, being ruled out 3 hours before tipoff definitely means he won’t even be ready for the first round of the tournament 2 and half weeks from now
 

Mpm277

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Guess no one needs to watch anymore Duke games since Zion is shutting it down for the year. Heck, he probably won’t even sit on the bench during the tournaments as he will probably just be rehabbing to get ready for the draft. I doubt he shows up to class anymore.

Yeah, being ruled out 3 hours before tipoff definitely means he won’t even be ready for the first round of the tournament 2 and half weeks from now
You're the wise sage we all need; thank you.
 

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I have to look at this with a positive mindset before I lose my mind lol. Yes, it sucks he got hurt, but I would rather it happen when it did and not at the start of March Madness. It's given other guys the opportunity to see more minutes, get their confidence, as well as the confidence of the staff, way up so they can hopefully be trusted to give the starters more of a break regardless of the situation. I feel the role players have at least earned that during this time.

As far as the regular season championship, I stopped thinking about that crap a long time ago when they went with the unbalanced schedule. The ACC champion will come from the tournament in my mind. Zion will play again for Duke, and he will not only be the most dominant player in the game again, but the most rested player. I think Duke is handling this looking at the long term goal which is cutting down the net. No need to come back against Wake, or the Cheats.

Duke is not going to win the Regular season championship, which a lot of us here didn't care about for a long time, because we were never in the running this late in the season. So what if we lose to the cheats again, anybody with a brain really knows why if that happens Sat. I don't count them out in that game either without Zion. The mental aspect of losing him as they did won't be there again. I'm going to sit back and watch, and I have a good feeling, we will have the last laugh when it's all said and done. Just my 2 cents.
 

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I don’t think Zion will be that rusty whenever he comes back. Alot of his game isn’t based on the things that get rusty. If you understand that. I also think we won’t see him against UNC now....Them lucky cheating basterds.
 
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Agree

Thanks Nike
Obviously different case if I am sponsored and paid to wear a specific sneaker.

But these multimillion dollar athletes wearing the same sneakers as the local YMCA/24 Fitness member is surprising.

I personally no longer wear Nike/Adidas/Reebox/UnderArmour for running at the gym. There are many superior options such as Asics, Mizuno, Brooks.

Most comfy running shoes I've ever worn and only $75
 

Hurley22

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I don’t think Zion will be that rusty whenever he comes back. Alot of his game isn’t based on the things that get rusty. If you understand that. I also think we won’t see him against UNC now....Them lucky cheating basterds.
Yea Zion can get 20-10 and not need 1 play ran for him. I think it will be much easier to bring him back into the mix then a PG or even any other player alive. I believe he plays again. Well I hope he plays again.
 
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HeLooks2MuchLikeDave

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Even if Zion is out Saturday, I still think we have the better team. If I were a betting man (and I am) I would place my money that Duke wins that game because we have the best coach in the business and that little factor called revenge.
 

dukebluesTX

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Ok I’ve been optimistic all along about Zion returning, but I am officially in the camp that we may not see him play for Duke again.
Stop it. Just stop. He will be back. Enough with the unfounded fear of him not returning. I guarantee he will be back. K said himself he is progressing nicely. Stop. For Gods sake I am GLAD he's not playing this game. It's Wake freaking Forest. Keep him out until he is 110% healthy. I don't care about Wake. I care about #6
 

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Stop it. Just stop. He will be back. Enough with the unfounded fear of him not returning. I guarantee he will be back. K said himself he is progressing nicely. Stop. For Gods sake I am GLAD he's not playing this game. It's Wake freaking Forest. Keep him out until he is 110% healthy. I don't care about Wake. I care about #6
When and who is your source
 
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dukebluesTX

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Chill dude. You have. your opinion. I have mine. Check the score. It’s a one point game at half vs wake freaking forest.
Who is your source that he will sit the rest of the season? A game that means less in the grand scheme of things is not as important as a tourney game. He wants to play. I would be SHOCKED if he didn't play again for Duke. And regardless of this game against Wake, this will not decide who wins the big dance. Come on....We want him sitting a game like this vs. a game that is a one and done game. He will be back. Post on this thread when he comes back and then we can debate more.........

>>>>>>Earlier in the press conference, Krzyzewski was asked about the process of integrating Williamson back into the team.

“We’ll welcome that when he does come back. Most of the season has been with Zion. So it’d be like reacquainting yourself with the way we play,” Krzyzewski said. “You know, we’ve had a lot of interruption because we had three games where Tre didn’t play and now we’ve had four because Zion didn’t play in the Carolina game either. You don’t lose an integral part of your team where it doesn’t have an effect on you. And we would like to get the band together at some time.

“Without putting any pressure on him, he’s getting better, and there’s no time pressure on him,” Krzyzewski said. “We’ll just see where it goes. But he’s getting better. He’s getting better.”

https://247sports.com/Article/Zion-Williamson-injury-Duke-Wake-Forest-Mike-Krzyzewksi-129708442/
 

dukebluesTX

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When and who is your source
Again, come back and comment when he comes back. I promise you, he comes back. There is no way in hell he sits the rest of the season. He WANTS to play. Have some positivity. K says he is getting better and he wants to play. The writing is on the wall. He will play again.
 

NCTyger

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Again, come back and comment when he comes back. I promise you, he comes back. There is no way in hell he sits the rest of the season. He WANTS to play. Have some positivity. K says he is getting better and he wants to play. The writing is on the wall. He will play again.
So it’s just a guess/opinion. Same as me. If Tre is out, no reason for Zion to come back.
 

dukebluesTX

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So it’s just a guess/opinion. Same as me. If Tre is out, no reason for Zion to come back.
Tre is out? What, is he out for the season too???? Come on man, you are being silly. Do me a favor, when Zion returns soon, come back and refresh this thread. He will be back soon. Just be happy and accept it. I'm going to remember your name and I will remind you of this silly argument when he comes back.
 

NCTyger

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Tre is out? What, is he out for the season too???? Come on man, you are being silly. Do me a favor, when Zion returns soon, come back and refresh this thread. He will be back soon. Just be happy and accept it. I'm going to remember your name and I will remind you of this silly argument when he comes back.
And I could care less if you come back and remind me. I hope he does. Great kid, right up there with my favorites, but he has parents also.
 

dukebluesTX

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And I could care less if you come back and remind me. I hope he does. Great kid, right up there with my favorites, but he has parents also.
If he was out for the season, we would know. Just enjoy the show when he comes back. Run along now little one.
 
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sheyduke

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I don't like our odds without him, but I think without him, we are still better than the Butler team that went to back to back finals
Really? I don’t that team was disciplined, talked well on both sides of the court and played hard nose “D”.
Duke just barely won against Wake forest. Wake Forest who is they worst team in the ACC. Not to mention Duke was at home.