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Hanmudog

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In hind sight, are you guys still glad that your OOC schedule was so weak? Seeing the crowd of 38K at the Northern Arizona game was a bit sad for a team that is still 6-3 with alot to play for. Are the easy wins worth the empty seats?
Again, this is not an EggBowl.com post but if you could do it all over again would you guys rather play teams like Houston, Wake Forest, Missouri, Georgia Tech, etc.?
 

Hanmudog

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In hind sight, are you guys still glad that your OOC schedule was so weak? Seeing the crowd of 38K at the Northern Arizona game was a bit sad for a team that is still 6-3 with alot to play for. Are the easy wins worth the empty seats?
Again, this is not an EggBowl.com post but if you could do it all over again would you guys rather play teams like Houston, Wake Forest, Missouri, Georgia Tech, etc.?
 

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They were in negotiations with them for a game and decided to play someone else (maybe Clemson?) instead. As for Mississippi's easy OOC schedule, if I were a fan of theirs I'd be damn glad to have that easy OOC schedule considering how this year is turning out. With that schedule, they'll still wind up with a decent record. If they'd played our schedule instead, they'd be struggling to get to 6-6.
 

Hanmudog

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I did not say Ole Miss would lose to those teams I listed. Before the season, most Ole Miss fans said that with the tough SEC games that they did not mind playing Northern Arizona and the like. However, now that no one is showing up for these games, do they wish they would have schedule tougher OOC games that would have been more competitive. Surely to hell they could have beaten a tough mid level team.
 

MSUCostanza

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that Clemson offered more money, and they backed out at the last minute. Thus, OM was scrambling to find an opponent (that's why it's a random team like N. AZ).
 

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up a lot on the ground. To answer your question, i'm glad we played the two cupcakes. If we can get bowl eligible, the 7 wins will look better than 6-6 and no one will really remember we played the Lumberjacks.
 

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In my opinion, I would rather not have played another 1AA school, simply because Saturday's game was nothing more than a scrimmage. It didn't count toward bowl eligibility, and really the team and coaches treated it like a game that didn't count, almost like you have exhibition games in basketball.

My ideal schedule have had Arkansas State in place of UNA, so that we'd still get the cupcake, but the win would count.

Now, on the attendance deal, I complained about the scheduling of UNA from the beginning, not necessarily because it was a cupcake, but because we scheduled it in mid-November, and not in September. I was fine with 4 cupcakes, but the majority of those games should be played early, and if we were going to be forced to find a 1AA, we should've found one that was open on September 12, our other open date.

We had 58,000+ for SELA on September 19. When you throw a 1AA in the mix during the heart of SEC play, you're going to get a smaller crowd. You play that same opponent, but you do it in September before the meat of the schedule, and we would've had 50,000 to 55,000.

Essentially, if we could've worked a deal to play an Arkansas State or ULM on September 12, you'd have had my ideal OOC schedule. 3 cupcakes to open the season before the first SEC game, so that the fans are still excited about any football, and you get 3 rent-a-wins, and you have a 4th cupcake during the middle of October for homecoming, and the other thing is all 4 would count toward a bowl.

By the way, the one thing you neglect to mention is that if we played Georgia Tech or Wake Forest, we'd have to have a return trip to their place. So, if we play one of those games and draw 60,000, is that better than drawing 40,000 two years in a row for two cupcake home games? 2 x 40,000 > 60,000.
 

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before they ever even began negotiations with TCU. And to answer Original48 here too, UM didn't even have a handshake deal with TCU. They didn't have any deal at all.
 

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since we aren't fighting for a BCS bid, I don't see what good it would have done. The tickets are sold, it's not like we're losing any revenue. Maybe a Tulane or something, but that wasn't possible.
 

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They had agreed on playing and when to play, but Boone screwed around with the money issue.

Clempson came in and offered what TCU wanted.
 

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I believe, had we scheduled TCU, Dexter McCluster would have been in the hospital with the flu on game-day.
 

RebelBruiser

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In hindsight, had we played TCU, there would've been two differences right now:

1) We'd be 5-4 needing one more win to be bowl eligible instead of 6-3 needing one more win to be bowl eligible.
2) We'd have had an off week this past weekend.
 

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Your schedule this year includes 6 home games in 7 weeks. That will cause many fans to do some serious picking-and-choosing, especially if they face a long drive.
 

Optimus Prime 4

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Patterson backed out. At least that's what I've heard since it happened. There was another school we almost had a deal with last minute, but they backed out too. Too bad for TCU, they could be claiming an SEC win...
 

Hanmudog

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rebelrouseri said:
up a lot on the ground. To answer your question, i'm glad we played the two cupcakes. If we can get bowl eligible, the 7 wins will look better than 6-6 and no one will really remember we played the Lumberjacks.
No one will remember anything about your season so far because there are no quality wins.
 

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birdZdawg said:
Your schedule this year includes 6 home games in 7 weeks. That will cause many fans to do some serious picking-and-choosing, especially if they face a long drive.

And that was the other problem with the UNA game being in the November open date slot. We ended up with only 1 home game before October 10. Then, over the next 7 weeks, we were home for 6 of them, and yes it caused some picking and choosing. I'll admit I had to do some of that myself. I didn't make the UNA game, but if it had been on Sept. 12, I'd have been there.
 

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Hanmudog said:
rebelrouseri said:
up a lot on the ground. To answer your question, i'm glad we played the two cupcakes. If we can get bowl eligible, the 7 wins will look better than 6-6 and no one will really remember we played the Lumberjacks.
No one will remember anything about your season so far because there are no quality wins.

Replace UNA with TCU or Georgia Tech, and tell me if you think your statement would be any less true today.

I still wish we'd have had another cupcake that was at least 1A, but playing and losing to a tough OOC foe doesn't add a quality win to our schedule.
 

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N. Arizona or TCU? Ole Miss came out a head on that deal because I don't think Ole Miss would have beaten TCU and you would still have to win one from either Tenn, LSU or Miss State to get to a bowl game. At lest this way you got a over all win.
 

Hanmudog

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You won't know if you never even play them. At the start of the year you guys were supposed to be top 10 and now you have doubts about whether you could beat an OOC team tougher than Arkansas State.
I mean seriously, you guys had SELA, NA, Vandy, Memphis, and UAB as practically gimmees to start the year. That is like starting 5-0 and only having to beat 2 mediocre teams the rest of the way to make a bowl. You can't seriously enjoy that on an annual basis. There is nothing to brag about or be proud of in there. Honestly, I would prefer 5-7 with a big win over someone like Bama or Florida as opposed to 6-6 with nothing but cupcakes........sounds like a good buy/sell.