Northwestern players ruled to be employees...
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IRS gonna tax scholly value, per diem, housing, CoL stipend etc?
Not to mention, the upper tiers of the union org will have generous salaries paid via mandatory dues.
The NLRB is full of morons.
Not to mention, the upper tiers of the union org will have generous salaries paid via mandatory dues.
The NLRB is full of morons.
Very interesting to see from a purely legal perspective.
From a fan's perspective, this sucks. But nothing stays the same and everything gets worse over time. College football wont be an exception to that rule.
From a fan's perspective, this sucks. But nothing stays the same and everything gets worse over time. College football wont be an exception to that rule.
Key words
The landmark ruling affects only students at private universities. State university college athletes who want to unionize must appeal to their state’s labor board.
The landmark ruling affects only students at private universities. State university college athletes who want to unionize must appeal to their state’s labor board.
Certainly could have an impact
I predict potentially reduce attendance and reduced alumni donations.
Hope this does not grow widespread legs.
Oh Well.
I predict potentially reduce attendance and reduced alumni donations.
Hope this does not grow widespread legs.
Oh Well.
Title IX...........
will definitely get twisted if athletes are unionized employees. Non-revenue producers won't unionize for fear of the sport getting dropped. If only football and basketball go the employee route, then it's possible they will no longer count in the Title IX formula. That might open the door for schools to add opportunities for men.
will definitely get twisted if athletes are unionized employees. Non-revenue producers won't unionize for fear of the sport getting dropped. If only football and basketball go the employee route, then it's possible they will no longer count in the Title IX formula. That might open the door for schools to add opportunities for men.
Nobody should be surprised at the result. They were arguing before the National Labor Relations board and not a state or federal judge.
Here's the arguments from the article via S.I. Does this describe a student?
Football players at Northwestern are compensated for a service (i.e. football) with athletics-based grants-in-aid, or scholarships; they have supervisors (i.e. coaches) who control their schedules and monitor what they say on social media; they must abide by certain rules and regulations, and are held to different standards than other students; they can have their compensation taken away (i.e. have their scholarship revoked) for violating those rules and lose their jobs (i.e. their spots in the lineup) if they skip practices or games; and they have a contract (i.e. an athletic tender agreement) that stipulates what they must do to maintain their scholarship.
Can an athlete have his contract - I mean scholarship - terminated? They are for only one year, right?
Usually when somebody is compensated, he is held to a higher standard. Nobody really pays attention to those who pay themselves or volunteer. Are walk-ons employees?
Here's the arguments from the article via S.I. Does this describe a student?
Football players at Northwestern are compensated for a service (i.e. football) with athletics-based grants-in-aid, or scholarships; they have supervisors (i.e. coaches) who control their schedules and monitor what they say on social media; they must abide by certain rules and regulations, and are held to different standards than other students; they can have their compensation taken away (i.e. have their scholarship revoked) for violating those rules and lose their jobs (i.e. their spots in the lineup) if they skip practices or games; and they have a contract (i.e. an athletic tender agreement) that stipulates what they must do to maintain their scholarship.
Can an athlete have his contract - I mean scholarship - terminated? They are for only one year, right?
Usually when somebody is compensated, he is held to a higher standard. Nobody really pays attention to those who pay themselves or volunteer. Are walk-ons employees?
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Clearly an empty threat. There's no way in hell a Big 10 school is going to drop football.
Scholarship amounts beyond tuition are already taxed. I don't think anybody actually pays it, but technically they are taxed.
Http://m.outkickthecoverage.com/col...e-coverage/the-ncaa-is-a-dead-man-walking.php
Good summary from Clay Travis. Apparently the tax angle is still up in the air:
Good summary from Clay Travis. Apparently the tax angle is still up in the air:
And the players will have to pay Social Security. And so will the University. The fallout will be endless. Doesn't all this make them professional athletes, ineligible to participate in college sports?
Isn't Mississippi a right-to-work state? Probably never happen there.
Isn't Mississippi a right-to-work state? Probably never happen there.
Texas is so anti union, I wonder what a state like that would do...
same for most states in the South. Personally I think it would affect giving to athletics because of politics...
same for most states in the South. Personally I think it would affect giving to athletics because of politics...
His best line: "It's hard to know, exactly."
Under his reasoning in no. 4, anyone who receives any form of compensation from the university cannot be deemed a student. Universities don't need a (legitimate) reason to offer a student a scholarship. I, the business major, once received a scholarship to take an ag class and the class "magically" failed to make. The scholarship made though.
Seems to me Georgia ...UG... Brothere'd up on this deal
When it first surfaced.
The fans will be the ones to kill it or support it,
I know my path.
When it first surfaced.
The fans will be the ones to kill it or support it,
I know my path.
Another thing about #4 (which I didn't see mentioned elsewhere) is that the term "Student Athlete" was invented by the NCAA in the 1950's to deny workman's comp benefits to the widow of a college student who died from a football-related injury (they never mention that in their feel-good commercials they run endlessly during March madness).
Here's the cut-and-paste from this Atlantic article (it's loooooong).
Here's the cut-and-paste from this Atlantic article (it's loooooong).